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  • #461
  • Edited 1:56am Oct 17, 2016 1:43am | Edited 1:56am
https://youtu.be/wTY2pmKguDg?list=PLknmn3Rd-_X3-8tPlw1eJOBNo82emUbZM

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  • #462
  • Oct 17, 2016 5:25am Oct 17, 2016 5:25am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} Ok, so I just watched a 10 minute video in which someone tries to justify or prove a point using correlation. This type of logic is a favorite tool in conspiracy theory or just plain dumb pseudo science. Of course it's totally bogus, just designed to mislead either by ignorance or by design. Similarities between thing, events, people, ideas can be found just by comparing something that appears similar between them. Correlations is not causation. To illustrate, check this out: http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations If...
so you do not like the video jen don't invite Mingary to your restaurant if you want a sugar coated review

but to say it's just (This type of logic is a favorite tool in conspiracy theory or just plain dumb pseudo science) is a bit harsh.

their is a link between the middle class getting squeeze and Trump's popularity with out a doubt in my mind this is the videos mind point

I doubt you will answer this but can you think of one nice/positive thing about Trump without it being a backhanded compliment??
  • #463
  • Oct 17, 2016 9:12am Oct 17, 2016 9:12am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Trident is not a defence, Trident is a "we'll get you back" weapon. The whole cold-war nuclear stand-off was built around a concept dubbed MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) which amounts to "don't start because there will be no survivors ... this includes you". Since then there has been a secondary race to make defences such as Patriot and whatever Reagan's star-wars initiative was called, in the hope of knocking out the missiles before they got close to their targets. ...and then a tertiary race to fire dummy and multi-capacity missiles,...
Oh gosh, you're a bearer of good news. Resigning to being a sitting duck waiting to get fried is not an option. As soon as tensions escalate pointing to that being a possible scenario, we'll get the hell out, pronto. South Africa or South Island, New Zealand sound like good bets. I would probably go for Cape Town, because of the direct flights. I wouldn't want to hang around in the northern hemisphere.

Thanks for the music. That makes me feel a whole lot better.
  • #464
  • Oct 17, 2016 9:20am Oct 17, 2016 9:20am
Quoting ThunderHeart
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1988145/muslim-islamic-school-that-taught-pupils-gay-men-should-be-killed-shut-down-after-pupil-exposed-its-extremist-beliefs/ WTF? Just reading this, and why are Brits not outraged by this? PC? OMG!
LOL. Some years ago I had a conversation with an American and he told me the one thing that stood out about Brits was simple resignation. We are just resigned. We moan like hell but do nothing. In France they are very good at revolting, but we don't have the energy for that sort of thing. Too busy eating pizza and getting fat on state handouts.
  • #465
  • Oct 17, 2016 9:23am Oct 17, 2016 9:23am
RT's bank account in the UK frozen: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3843634/Bank-accounts-Russian-state-broadcaster-Russia-Today-FROZEN-UK.html

And Nick Clegg warns that price of cheese would go up because of Brexit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3843088/And-thought-Marmitegate-bad-Prices-chocolate-cheese-wine-soar-hard-Brexit-warns-Nick-Clegg.html
  • #466
  • Oct 17, 2016 9:37am Oct 17, 2016 9:37am
Quoting jen101
{quote} Oh gosh, you're a bearer of good news. Resigning to being a sitting duck waiting to get fried is not an option. As soon as tensions escalate pointing to that being a possible scenario, we'll get the hell out, pronto. South Africa or South Island, New Zealand sound like good bets. I would probably go for Cape Town, because of the direct flights. I wouldn't want to hang around in the northern hemisphere. Thanks for the music. That makes me feel a whole lot better.
If it were a toss up between Nuked and SA (one of the least safe places in the World for women), being governed by Zuma (even more stupid than Junker), nuked might be the preferable option
  • #467
  • Oct 17, 2016 9:39am Oct 17, 2016 9:39am
Quoting jen101
{quote} LOL. Some years ago I had a conversation with an American and he told me the one thing that stood out about Brits was simple resignation. We are just resigned. We moan like hell but do nothing. In France they are very good at revolting, but we don't have the energy for that sort of thing. Too busy eating pizza and getting fat on state handouts.
Until Brexit, I would have said that was true, but I think the Brits have found their voice again
  • #468
  • Oct 17, 2016 12:10pm Oct 17, 2016 12:10pm
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} If it were a toss up between Nuked and SA (one of the least safe places in the World for women), being governed by Zuma (even more stupid than Junker), nuked might be the preferable option
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #469
  • Edited 3:49pm Oct 17, 2016 2:01pm | Edited 3:49pm
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} If it were a toss up between Nuked and SA (one of the least safe places in the World for women), being governed by Zuma (even more stupid than Junker), nuked might be the preferable option
OK, have a good laugh, but at least I'll be prepared should shit ever hit! Cape Town is nice in parts, I know it quite well but I would have no intention of moving there permanently!

Also to consider is that from the UK you will fly due south which is what you want to do. You don't want to be flying over the Middle East or Russia!
  • #470
  • Edited 11:16pm Oct 17, 2016 9:08pm | Edited 11:16pm
Quoting jen101
RT's bank account in the UK frozen: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3843634/Bank-accounts-Russian-state-broadcaster-Russia-Today-FROZEN-UK.html And Nick Clegg warns that price of cheese would go up because of Brexit: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3843088/And-thought-Marmitegate-bad-Prices-chocolate-cheese-wine-soar-hard-Brexit-warns-Nick-Clegg.html

This is messed up, and is further proof that the US and UK are trying to stir stuff up, as well as silence alternative news sources for reporting the truth. This really is cause for major concern, as well incite the wrath of cold anger against the elites for trying to manufacture a crisis at the expenses of hundreds of lives. Russia is not the enemy, and I ashamed that my so called voted leaders are engaging in such evil to propagate their nefarious agenda. Obama is a treasonous bastard! I can say that because he doesn't have a father and his mother out of wedlock gave birth to him! What can I say about the UK's complicity in all of this? That they too will do anything the US asks, because they want to silence the truth about what is going on in Syria? I don't know what else I can say, except that they don't want the public to find out that it is the US funding Isis and fighting an illegal war. This is truly astonishing and disappointing at the same time.
  • #471
  • Oct 17, 2016 9:14pm Oct 17, 2016 9:14pm
Quoting jen101
{quote} LOL. Some years ago I had a conversation with an American and he told me the one thing that stood out about Brits was simple resignation. We are just resigned. We moan like hell but do nothing. In France they are very good at revolting, but we don't have the energy for that sort of thing. Too busy eating pizza and getting fat on state handouts.
Well resignation is not a recipe for holding principles to safeguard a country's sovereignty and constitution. In other words, you get the government you deserve. I say the same thing to Americans. They complain, yet are too apathetic to invoke the agents of change or stand up to voice their opposition to the existential threats to their constitutions. Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction!
  • #472
  • Edited 10:51pm Oct 17, 2016 9:52pm | Edited 10:51pm
https://youtu.be/0MGXnMLESEA?list=RDzA65KmOBTDw
https://youtu.be/13doUQ5ZTQI?list=PLD82F19E4CF1957E6
  • #473
  • Oct 18, 2016 2:18am Oct 18, 2016 2:18am
Quoting jen101
{quote} OK, have a good laugh, but at least I'll be prepared should shit ever hit! Cape Town is nice in parts, I know it quite well but I would have no intention of moving there permanently! Also to consider is that from the UK you will fly due south which is what you want to do. You don't want to be flying over the Middle East or Russia!
I understand your reasoning, but SA is one Fcuked up country and the rape capital of the World
  • #474
  • Oct 18, 2016 4:19am Oct 18, 2016 4:19am
Quoting ThunderHeart
{quote} Well resignation is not a recipe for holding principles to safeguard a country's sovereignty and constitution. In other words, you get the government you deserve. I say the same thing to Americans. They complain, yet are too apathetic to invoke the agents of change or stand up to voice their opposition to the existential threats to their constitutions. Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction!
I wasn't entirely serious, I was taking the piss . Truth is though, we are quite hardened here to shit being served everyday. Most of us don't go and have public meltdowns; we get a say once every 5 years and once in a lifetime we may be lucky enough to be offered a referendum, so boy, do we make it count!

Look at this. It's enough to make your blood boil. Children, my arse. They look in their twenties. Family in the UK? Right. Then their family can go and join them in France! So where are the girls? Why have they all lost their papers but not their smartphones? What idiots we are. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3843900/First-migrant-children-arrive-UK-Calais-French-prepare-raze-Jungle-camp-ground.html

Lovely, haunting Red Indian music.
  • #475
  • Oct 18, 2016 4:22am Oct 18, 2016 4:22am
Quoting Devauxt
{quote} I understand your reasoning, but SA is one Fcuked up country and the rape capital of the World
Fly to Cape Town first because you don't want to go over all those troubled parts of the planet. Then onto Perth or Sydney and maybe NZ.
  • #476
  • Oct 18, 2016 4:42am Oct 18, 2016 4:42am
Quoting ThunderHeart
{quote} This is messed up, and is further proof that the US and UK are trying to stir stuff up, as well as silence alternative news sources for reporting the truth. This really is cause for major concern, as well incite the wrath of cold anger against the elites for trying to manufacture a crisis at the expenses of hundreds of lives. Russia is not the enemy, and I ashamed that my so called voted leaders are engaging in such evil to propagate their nefarious agenda. Obama is a treasonous bastard! I can say that because he doesn't have a father and...
These past few days I've been trying to get my head around the Syria problem, in particular who's fighting who and why. From what I understand, the Russians are in Syria because they're allies and have been invited there by Assad. So they are there legitimately. They are helping Assad to get rid of the rebels who are trying to overthrow him. So far so good. America wants to overthrow Assad so are arming the rebels. Now why does America want to overthrow Assad? What business is it of theirs? Because he's a nasty dictator? What about Mugabe then and Kim Jung Un? Ah.... OIL! So is it because Assad refused a pipeline to run through Syria?

So the rebels are really mercenaries who will go to whoever pays them the most including ISIS? The rebels then move to ISIS taking with them all the arms that America has just supplied them. Who are ISIS fighting? Other than blowing up non Muslims around Europe? What's their goal?
https://youtu.be/NKb9GVU8bHE

It's nothing to do with America and even less to do with the UK. I'm sick of us being America's puppet!
  • #477
  • Oct 18, 2016 4:48am Oct 18, 2016 4:48am
Quoting jen101
... Look at this. It's enough to make your blood boil. Children, my arse. They look in their twenties. ...
The traffickers tell them to claim they are age-16, even the ones who are obviously younger than 16.
The UK SS then spends and amount of time trying to correctly age them.

Under-18s are technically children and remain in the UK until they are adult, by which time they either have been given leave to remain or they are repatriated. However the traffickers also tell them to destroy all their paperwork so ascertaining to where they should be repatriated is a second issue.
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #478
  • Oct 18, 2016 4:53am Oct 18, 2016 4:53am
Quoting ThunderHeart
.... except that they don't want the public to find out that it is the US funding Isis and fighting an illegal war. This is truly astonishing and disappointing at the same time.
I thought the US is supplying the Saudis, and the Saudis are supporting the rebels (including Da'esh ? )

Why is the US actively supporting this war, is it because they lost out in Afghanistan?
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #479
  • Oct 18, 2016 4:56am Oct 18, 2016 4:56am
Quoting ThunderHeart
{quote} Well resignation is not a recipe for holding principles to safeguard a country's sovereignty and constitution. In other words, you get the government you deserve. I say the same thing to Americans. They complain, yet are too apathetic to invoke the agents of change or stand up to voice their opposition to the existential threats to their constitutions. Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction!
I think it is a hang-over from the last WW. People were being bombed daily and their food was rationed. Food rationing continued after the war until the mid-50s ... so it became the done thing to grumble about it but do nothing because there was nothing that could be done. A habit if you like...
Carbon-Dioxide: the gas of life! https://youtu.be/ttJBdr6eBuo
  • #480
  • Oct 18, 2016 5:10am Oct 18, 2016 5:10am
https://youtu.be/lbSOLBMUvIE
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