The Rabbit Hole

I am not sure where the UK stands right now to be honest. But with the internal conflicts in dealing with the BREXIT mess, my guess is that May and her supporters are biding their time, and waiting to see what happens with the US election results before making their next move. I also believe is also the reason why the markets have been rather weird and sporadic. (the flash crash is a separate issue altogether) Funny I have not heard a lot on the news from the UK regarding Syria and GB's voice in all of this. Isis is pretty spread out in various countries, which makes it hard to target them from the air. They have been recently dressing up as women to cross certain borders like Turkey and Iraq were some have been caught recently. Also blending in the civilian population is another one of their tactics they makes any future ground operation very challenging for any foreign coalition.

Also this story is pretty hilarious if you want to know the truth. 1st of all, if the US was going after Russia through a cyber attack, they wouldn't announce it to NBC news. 2nd The CIA would have nothing to do with such a job, that would be NSA's domain who would lead such an operation, and thus we wouldn't hear anything about it. 3rd, there is talk about going after their banks, and the possibility of imposing sanctions, which if Obama decided to do that, he risks a lot in terms of exposing his own assets. So in others words it's just a lot of talk. Every one knows Obama is pretty much a lame duck and can't really do anything. The only option is a military engagement, which if he did decided to go that route, he would have lost all credibility with the world community. Remember, he won the Nobel peace prize, how would that look he decided to start a war with Russia? Hmm hard decisions for Obama!

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...russia-n666636 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-prepping-possible-cyber-strike-against-russia-n666636)

As far as having your own opinion on Trump, I agree, except in the case with Mingary, and the use of the word "Troll" is where I have to disagree with on. I know who he is exactly, and have delt with people like him before; even though he is also entitled to his opinion, but do so without the ulterior motive to just incite vitriol and hatred towards his supporters, which is exactly what he is attempting to do will not get a pass from me, especially when this recent exchange was specifically to target me. Not only that, I have seen his statements all over this site, and it is always with the intent instigate negative reactions, or putting people down, or to invalidate peoples points of views without offering much substance to back it up or contribute to the conversation in a substantive way which IMO is indeed the hallmarks of a Troll. He thinks his opinion is the only one that matters, yet can't answer questions directly, instead chooses to deflect by changing the subject or purposely be obtuse is not someone I respect. Mingary IMO is not a very smart informed person, he gave himself away as I have learned a few things about him from our exchange, and can tell you emphatically 100% that he is also a liar.

You are not purposely Obtuse in your responses Jen, which is one of the reasons why I respect you, as you pretty much succinctly state your case in all of your exchanges, and I pretty much know where you are coming from. In other words you come off Genuine like others on this site as well, there is no pretense. Even if you said you didn't like Trump and you would not vote for him, then that would be acceptable to me, because: 1. You are not American 2.You would not be affected by his policies, although indirectly considering what is at stake for the world, I would say that you do have some skin in the game in hoping that Trump gets elected. The point is, if you claim to be American, and you say you are not voting for Trump because you don't like him, without listing a reason based on policy, then that is not an argument, and only makes you look like a idiot and dumb. That is why when I hear people call Trump every name in the book painting him to be dumb, yet he is a successful Billionaire, employed 100's of people, then is called a racist, yet he has been benevolent in promoting equal opportunity in the African and minority communities, contributes his own money to his own charity, gets accused of not paying Taxes, yet the Clinton's have used the same law in the Tax code to their advantage, and much, much, more, then that is the part that really does not make sense to me, and it never will. (see rule 2 and 12) Typical of the left when presented with facts is to ignore those facts, create diversionary tactics or run away.

If this were any other election where the stakes couldn't be higher, where two candidates couldn't be more polarizing in their unpopularity, then I am sure we wouldn't be seeing the kind of hatred that we are seeing today on a daily basis. Unfortunately we American's are stuck with what we have, two choices, one who is a career criminal and whose spouse is a serial rapist, and the other whose bombastic stye of arrogance of authoritarian pretense, with a history of boasting of sexual Trophies leaves many with a sense of loathing never felt before in over 100 years in our election history.

With the future of the country hanging in the balance, and possibly the entire world, I can not ever, (and I mean I would surrender my life if it came to that), ever vote for Hillary Clinton. She is the type of candidate that I pray and hope there is a God, because downright evil people like her and her husband deserve a place in hell, and not rewarded the highest elected office in the world to decide over my life. When comparing the two, and knowing all the facts, I much rather take my chance with Trump. He is not perfect, nor is anyone else on this planet, and do believe he is sincere in righting our already sinking ship. God help us if Hillary wins, that is all I will say! To me, it is a matter of life and death in what this election means, and I will fight both tooth and nail to the bitter end to see that Hillary Clinton does not win! I love my country, I love my family, and I love the American people!


https://youtu.be/tP-Md-Mit6Q

https://youtu.be/sYwkXqL8LX0

I now love British Humor!

This just tells me and confirms what a major scumbag our leaders are! Starting with Obama!

I can only see the Trump/ Hillary debate from an international perspective, obviously. I am not familiar with the US's domestic issues. Well, you know exactly where I stand on that. I would vote Trump even though I don't like him and think he's a dirty old lech. It's not my personal opinion on him that matters, is it? And that is what I think every American voter should bear in mind, to disconnect the emotional element with the pragmatic.

I think where the Trump team may have weakened themselves is to focus too much on being defensive to all the dirt dished. All Trump needed to do, just once, was to apologise for his past indiscretions, then ignore all else. He should be hammering home policies, attacking with what really matters, not lowering himself to the level of his accusers and playing defensive. Attacking the Clintons on the same level by saying they're worse is just playing into their hands. Surely he wants people to focus on the rational, not the emotive and irrational.

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I see. So I take it you will be voting for Putin this November in the US election?

I would like to know what you think about this video by (Sargon of Akkad) name of video is (the parallels between Rome and the United Sates) it's q10.32 mins long

Ok, so I just watched a 10 minute video in which someone tries to justify or prove a point using correlation.
This type of logic is a favorite tool in conspiracy theory or just plain dumb pseudo science. Of course it's totally bogus, just designed to mislead either by ignorance or by design.
Similarities between thing, events, people, ideas can be found just by comparing something that appears similar between them.
Correlations is not causation.
To illustrate, check this out:
http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

If history does repeat itself, it's never in the same manner.

A lot of Americans including myself share the view that we are not voting for Trump to be our best friend, or because we think he is this incredible outstanding moral character, we are voting for him because stopping Hillary, and the Globalist's are America's greatest threat. So yes, you can have a negative opinion of him on a personal level and still vote for him. The irony for me regarding Trump, is that he still has redeeming qualities unlike Hillary, would be impossible to have any, ever! Hillary has blood on her hands, and that to me is unforgivable! If Trump wins and deliver on half of his promises, then that to me would be a victory and something that most Americans would appreciate given the situation we find ourselves in today. General Patton, had the same salty personality, and he turned out to be an American hero So who knows? We have nothing to lose by electing Trump. The reason why the left are so adamant about being against Trump, is that they don't like authority, like little feral kids when they rebel against their absentee parents, all hell breaks loose when morals and principles gets thrown out the window. Yeah, a good dose of Authority is exactly what our country needs right now, as the adults need to step in to fix things and accepting the corruption going on at the highest level of our Government is completely unacceptable!

As far as staying on message, Trump is doing OK, and is in attack mode every day to let the people know that the Media, The FBI. the White House, Hillary, are all corrupt! Thanks to Wikileaks, Trump is free to keep hammering home what most honest Americans have known all along and with the release of Wikileaks Americans are reading them and finding out the truth themselves. (in a normal election I would agree with you, but these are not normal times nor is this a election normal) Trust me it is working! Why else would the media ignore the facts and continue this BS narrative of allegations of these people that are stepping forward claiming Trump sexually assaulted them 30+ years ago? Not one single one of them have filed charges, or said anything back then. Totally BS! IMO it is a lame attempt to divert the public's attention from the Wikileaks daily releases that continues to build a case against Hillary and her corrupt machine. The biggest revelation to come, is Obama's e-mails, which will be the "October Surprise"! With this, is my biggest concern, because creating or manufacturing a war is the perfect way to divert the public's attention from such damning news. We will see, less than 20 days before the election, it is sure going to get interesting.

https://youtu.be/8AgR0XjGOcs

This is a good synopsis of the crooked MSM in America and why these latest Trump allegations is complete BS!

Still a nice car, but I don't want that option, I want a car that I can control. Silver is my favorite car color! Nice!

I'm looking for azurite black which is really a very dark blue and nutmeg leather for the seats.

You're scaring me with talk of nuclear war. Then I'm scaring myself. I wonder how the UK will fare? I hope our Trident works. We can take out Russia by ourselves if need be, so maybe that's deterrent enough for us to be left alone. This video goes on a bit so you may have to fast forward. It basically is identifying the best places to be in the country in the case of an attack.
https://youtu.be/1ASCPq_Q7jA

I'm a tad uncomfortable when you say you would rather surrender your life than vote for Hillary. What about the people who care about you, your family? As a parent, there are so many times when principles have to come a poor second to what's best for your kids. If there was a gun to my head, of course I would vote for whoever they wanted me to, because I would do anything for my kids. On a more everyday level, at school, they were teaching the kids about Muslims, all leftie stuff, about what nice people they are etc etc. Not one word on how barbaric they are, how they treat women and not one mention of ISIS. I bit my tongue. But at home I set the record straight. I will not let my kids grow up brainwashed.

I was merely using that as way to emphasize my passion on how I feel about not voting for Hillary. The fact the she is one step away from the white house considering her record is just so infuriating to me, on top of what is going on with our current administration. Also I am not a parent like you so I think your perspective on family is a little different than mine. I haven't seen my family in almost 8 years, so I am a little conflicted when it comes to that, not because I don't care, because I do, but they are already in my memories and if things work out that I can see them again, that would be excellent, if not, then I am already prepared to accept that. I guess I am just thinking that if Hillary does become President, I already made up my mine that I want no part of it. What can I do? Sometimes self preservation is all one can do. I guess that is just where I am at right now. Maybe I will change my mindset, who knows?

Also I am not intentionally trying to scare people, or you with all this talk, but it is real, and that video you posted earlier is one that really hit home with me regarding the banks. That scares me more than anything, and people have been saying or warning us for years about the impending dollar crash. When I see things like this mass immigration all over the world, War torn countries, deaths, at the hands of our sociopath elected leaders, then it all starts to make sense.

Anyway, I just found this out. There is a no fly zone in various parts of the country due to our missile alert or where our silo's of nuclear weapons of some launch pads are located.

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_6_0517.html

==> As far as having your own opinion on Trump, I agree, except in the case with Mingary, and the use of the word "Troll" is where I have to disagree with on. I know who he is exactly, and have delt with people like him before; even though he is also entitled to his opinion, but do so without the ulterior motive to just incite vitriol and hatred towards his supporters, which is exactly what he is attempting to do will not get a pass from me, especially when this recent exchange was specifically to target me. Not only that, I have seen his statements all over this site, and it is always with the intent instigate negative reactions, or putting people down, or to invalidate peoples points of views without offering much substance to back it up or contribute to the conversation in a substantive way which IMO is indeed the hallmarks of a Troll. He thinks his opinion is the only one that matters, yet can't answer questions directly, instead chooses to deflect by changing the subject or purposely be obtuse is not someone I respect. Mingary IMO is not a very smart informed person, he gave himself away as I have learned a few things about him from our exchange, and can tell you emphatically 100% that he is also a liar.

Throwing in the straw man argument for good measure.
Really do you know "who he is exactly" ?
Learn some basic debate / argument skills and come back to me.

There, I also know "who you are exactly", it's rather easy.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2XZzUrhBHA

Trident is not a defence, Trident is a "we'll get you back" weapon. The whole cold-war nuclear stand-off was built around a concept dubbed MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) which amounts to "don't start because there will be no survivors ... this includes you". Since then there has been a secondary race to make defences such as Patriot and whatever Reagan's star-wars initiative was called, in the hope of knocking out the missiles before they got close to their targets. ...and then a tertiary race to fire dummy and multi-capacity missiles, a bit like a nuclear cluster bomb, to thwart the anti-missile missiles. ...oh I almost forgot, the EMP tactic which detonates an air-burst at 20 miles high (or wherever) whose function is to knock-out at least temporarily any electronic surveillance and counter measures, guidance systems, you name it...

So my advice is .... if there is a nuclear strike you might as well go outside and watch the show. Death is likely to be quicker and maybe even painless, as compared with the long drawn-out misery faced by survivors with no clean water, no agriculture supplying food, and anarchy ruling.

The rather interesting assessment of that Scottish guy is well researched and understated. Here are a few facts.
- the bombs which wiped out Hiroshima and Nagasaki were around 200 kilo-tons, maybe less; and they missed the optimal target point at Nagasaki.
- such bombs these days are termed tactical weapons, i.e. one might use them in front-line fighting because they are quite small.
- as the Scot hinted, the strategic weapons are more than 20 times bigger ... around 1 to 5 megatons, their blast radius is about 10 miles, one bomb could take out all of London.
- also as mentioned by the Scot, those are not the biggest. I hate to think what Kim Jong Un is testing.....

...and so to the consequences. Did you ever watch the Terminator (first in the series of excellent movies), fairly accurate I think but again under-stated (there has to be something left otherwise there is no movie). The optimum nuclear detonation point is about 1-mile high. Caught out in the open anything made of flesh within 5 miles is vapourised, the blast which follows knocks down most everything else and extends farther outward, plus a lot of 'stuff' which can be persuaded to burn is already on fire.

...then the radiation. When a bomb goes off there is an intense and short-lived blast of gamma radiation which is supplemented by a blast of neutrons (overlooked by the Scot, but fundamental to the way nuclear reactors work) and that can kill people within hours or days. As mentioned it is high energy radiation and would take a huge amount of shielding to absorb/deflect/abate, the kind of shielding that comes with being down at the bottom of the Potash mine in Cleveland (you could hide down a coal mine if they hadn't shut them all). After that comes 'the fall-out', which consists of atomic decomposition by-products such as Caesium, Plutonium and Strontium but in unstable isotope form which blows around the world, is ingested by everything that eats and breathes and causes cancer and radiation poisoning.

On that happy note I leave you with this......

https://youtu.be/SXWVpcypf0w

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1988145/muslim-islamic-school-that-taught-pupils-gay-men-should-be-killed-shut-down-after-pupil-exposed-its-extremist-beliefs/


WTF? Just reading this, and why are Brits not outraged by this? PC? OMG!

So much for having any hope of surviving the fall out! Unfortunately some of us believe taking ones life is a condemnation of repeating it again so we will suffer if such a scenario plays out. As one of great Buddhist sages once said, "suffer what there is to suffer and enjoy what there is to enjoy, for life is but a journey."

Or as others have said before, "eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow....."

It will not be the last school to be found following dubious practises. Separately ... £3500 per year for private schooling is a bargain!

Doesn't mean its right!