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  • #5,501
  • Oct 6, 2016 2:39pm Oct 6, 2016 2:39pm
Quoting Hotpotato
{quote} I'll keep testing the continuous slope modes. {image}
Did you set MAs using EA at M1 chart?
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  • #5,502
  • Oct 6, 2016 2:45pm Oct 6, 2016 2:45pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Did you set MAs using EA at M1 chart?
DEMA and multiv1.05 on M1

Still a long way to make up for the startup losses because of the continues mode.
Just slapped it onto a MT4 and will let it run for another week.
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  • #5,503
  • Edited 3:04pm Oct 6, 2016 2:51pm | Edited 3:04pm
Quoting Hotpotato
{quote} DEMA and multiv1.05 on M1 Still a long way to make up for the startup losses because of the continues mode. Just slapped it onto a MT4 and will let it run for another week.
Im using same way. More one Trend for try filter false signals. We will see how works tomorrow. I'm not sure if this mix is useful with corssovers

PS: With renko I have tune slopes modes slighly for works like normal charts. Open modes dont have differences with delayed and delayed have enties so early
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This signal happens because you have force new bar for MT4 API works. But really new candle only have happens when candle is full ( old renko behaviour ). Then I have manage new renko candle like not real candle for modes works like normal charts. While I dont do this maybe we are suffering some false signals worsting proftis
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  • #5,504
  • Oct 6, 2016 3:07pm Oct 6, 2016 3:07pm
I think a directional slow trend and a crossover has more chance of success than a slow trend together with a fast trend.
With a slow and fast trend it is the fast that dictates the trades and the slow trend sets the general trade direction but with renko it is opportune to trade both directions.
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  • #5,505
  • Oct 6, 2016 3:11pm Oct 6, 2016 3:11pm
"This signal happens because you have force new bar for MT4 API works. But really new candle only have happens when candle is full ( old renko behaviour ). Then I have manage new renko candle like not real candle for modes works like normal charts. While I dont do this maybe we are suffering some false signals worsting proftis"

It is standard MT4 behaviour and it is the so called 0 zero bar which you should never include in you calculations because it is unfinished.
It is not different than normal charts.
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  • #5,506
  • Oct 6, 2016 3:12pm Oct 6, 2016 3:12pm
Quoting Hotpotato
I think a directional slow trend and a crossover has more chance of success than a slow trend together with a fast trend. With a slow and fast trend it is the fast that dictates the trades and the slow trend sets the general trade direction but with renko it is opportune to trade both directions.
It can be a good idea. Really I dont know what thing can work better yet. New stuff, new learning process

About signals problem, I'm using delayed crossover but with renko is working as open crossover. Maybe I have change the names and call old open crossover "predictive crossover"
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  • #5,507
  • Oct 6, 2016 3:21pm Oct 6, 2016 3:21pm
Quoting Hotpotato
"This signal happens because you have force new bar for MT4 API works. But really new candle only have happens when candle is full ( old renko behaviour ). Then I have manage new renko candle like not real candle for modes works like normal charts. While I dont do this maybe we are suffering some false signals worsting proftis" It is standard MT4 behaviour and it is the so called 0 zero bar which you should never include in you calculations because it is unfinished. It is not different than normal charts.
Yes but open modes works with current candle. I only have adapt code for delay entries in renko for have same behaviour that normal charts. Maybe I will have create 2 slope modes for keep current early renko behaviour we are suffering now
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  • #5,508
  • Oct 6, 2016 3:46pm Oct 6, 2016 3:46pm
This is the point where it should start closing profitable trades to make up for the losing ones it already closed.
That is inclusive the "startup" losing trades.

If opposite trades it will take on closing are lucrative to it will be in profit.
But i expect it to lose part of the profit on the slow dema and later if closing was on a pullbacks or short swings.
You really have to let this run for quite some time before analizing.
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  • #5,509
  • Oct 6, 2016 3:47pm Oct 6, 2016 3:47pm
Tomorrow I will fix this...Its dangerous with only one MA
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  • #5,510
  • Oct 6, 2016 3:50pm Oct 6, 2016 3:50pm
Quoting Hotpotato
This is the point where it should start closing profitable trades to make up for the losing ones it already closed. That is inclusive the "startup" losing trades. If opposite trades it will take on closing are lucrative to it will be in profit. But i expect it to lose part of the profit on the slow dema and later if closing was on a pullbacks or short swings. You really have to let this run for quite some time before analizing. {image}
With renko tester you can analyze past with calm at weekends for see how resolve that profit DD at extremes. In theory with renko you have opposite signals early becuase MA is more near to bars. But even losing some profits you should have better overall than normal charts. At least in theory
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  • #5,511
  • Oct 6, 2016 4:34pm Oct 6, 2016 4:34pm
Interesting entries...
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  • #5,512
  • Oct 6, 2016 5:03pm Oct 6, 2016 5:03pm
Quoting braintheboss
Tomorrow I will fix this...Its dangerous with only one MA {image}
Dema 16 is a disaster. Have to come up with something else.
  • #5,513
  • Oct 6, 2016 5:06pm Oct 6, 2016 5:06pm
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} Dema 16 is a disaster. Have to come up with something else.
What is the problem? Many short bad trades? Why you don't try my setting? I can't make long tests and is good if somebody do it
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  • #5,514
  • Oct 6, 2016 5:26pm Oct 6, 2016 5:26pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} What is the problem? Many short bad trades? Why you don't try my setting? I can't make long tests and is good if somebody do it
This is since using dema 16
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  • #5,515
  • Oct 6, 2016 5:30pm Oct 6, 2016 5:30pm
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} This is since using dema 16 {image}
Problem with short bad trades. The profitables pairs are around 6 trades. Worst you have more 20 trades
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  • #5,516
  • Oct 6, 2016 5:37pm Oct 6, 2016 5:37pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Problem with short bad trades. The profitables pairs are around 6 trades. Worst you have more 20 trades
I am going to try a Jurik 14 no exit along with a Jurik 8 exit on opposite. Maybe this will filter out some of the garbage.
  • #5,517
  • Oct 6, 2016 5:39pm Oct 6, 2016 5:39pm
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} I am going to try a Jurik 14 no exit along with a Jurik 8 exit on opposite. Maybe this will filter out some of the garbage.
Ok. But first use EA at M1 chart for see MA is reliable
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  • #5,518
  • Oct 6, 2016 5:48pm Oct 6, 2016 5:48pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Ok. But first use EA at M1 chart for see MA is reliable
Should I be using smoothing setting?
What is HP using? I see more than one ma on his capture.
  • #5,519
  • Oct 6, 2016 5:58pm Oct 6, 2016 5:58pm
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} Should I be using smoothing setting? What is HP using? I see more than one ma on his capture.
Yes. You use smooth. But the important is you use EAs on the M1 chart. Drawing is very similar to ticks and if you have profitable MA in that chart you will have it in the future...
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  • #5,520
  • Oct 6, 2016 6:47pm Oct 6, 2016 6:47pm
Now who got poor today?
i was right on it.unbelivable.
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