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  • #16,421
  • Sep 29, 2016 6:30pm Sep 29, 2016 6:30pm
HI,

I combined the indi's ADX Slope New and Advanced_ADX Kerry into one new indicator.
The matching of the scaling is not needed.

BR
Huub

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  • #16,422
  • Sep 29, 2016 11:34pm Sep 29, 2016 11:34pm
Quoting emonts
HI, I combined the indi's ADX Slope New and Advanced_ADX Kerry into one new indicator. The matching of the scaling is not needed. BR Huub {file}

we can see that the slope of this new indicator is not equal the ADX SLOPE NEW
What we need is to get something like the ADX SLOPE 2 without the indicator autoreflesh
Thanks for your efforts ...
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  • #16,423
  • Sep 30, 2016 12:30am Sep 30, 2016 12:30am
Quoting jpadvisor
{quote} Made 145 pips yesterday on this call. No other alien fellow took it?
I took h1 slingshot on oil cashed good too ;p 1,10 $ up closed at the high
  • #16,424
  • Edited 1:52am Sep 30, 2016 1:35am | Edited 1:52am
Quoting hugomarques
{quote} we can see that the slope of this new indicator is not equal the ADX SLOPE NEW What we need is to get something like the ADX SLOPE 2 without the indicator autoreflesh Thanks for your efforts ... {image}
Hi,

Be carefull with the interpretation of what you see when you do not use same scaling for all indicators in same window.
Take your chart.
When i look to the adx period = 7 and the histogram indi, they are pretty the same. Maybe exactly, but i can not see the scaling.

The other ADX lines are different (not in slope, but in position in the window with respect to the period = 7), but this is due to the auto scaling used in MT4.

To make this more clear i made new chart.

First sub window I have put in Combined ADX with a scaling of minimum = 0 and maximum = 100, period = 7;
I also put in basic ADX period=21 (gold/yellow line), but I did use the auto scaling of MT4

Second sub window I have put in ADX Slope New and Advanced ADX Kerry. I gave them both a scale with minimum = 0 and maximum = 100, period = 7.
I also put in basic ADX period=21 (gold/yellow line), but I did use the auto scaling of MT4

You can see both sub windows are the same.

Third sub window I have put in Combined ADX with a scaling of minimum = 0 and maximum = 100, period = 7;
I also put in basic ADX period=21 (gold/yellow line) with a scaling of minimum = 0 and maximum = 100;
Now you see the yellow line on a different place in the window, but properly scaled with respet to the other indi in the sub window.

Look at the green vertical line with the yellow arrow.
Visual in sub window 1 and 2, the value of ADX with period = 21 is higher then the value of ADX with period = 7.
But this is fake.
In sub window 3 you see the values drawn with all indi's same scaling and then ADX period = 21 is lower then ADX period=7.

By the way all is build 1010

Hope it is more clear.

So if you have several indi's in same sub window and you do not give them all the same scaling be very carefull in making conclusions.


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BR
Huub
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  • #16,425
  • Sep 30, 2016 2:55am Sep 30, 2016 2:55am
Quoting emonts
{quote} Hi, Be carefull with the interpretation of what you see when you do not use same scaling for all indicators in same window. Take your chart. When i look to the adx period = 7 and the histogram indi, they are pretty the same. Maybe exactly, but i can not see the scaling. The other ADX lines are different (not in slope, but in position in the window with respect to the period = 7), but this is due to the auto scaling used in MT4. To make this more clear i made new chart. First sub window I have put in Combined ADX with a scaling of minimum...
Hi Huub

Thanks for quick response, excellent work as always

I've got time later to go through these and will feedback

One quick comment, this point of the fixed scale for this window was a topic of conversation way back in the early days and it was agreed on two counts

1) technically your point is valid and that if you leave unfixed then you cannot measure the precise values of each displayed line

2) visually the unfixed lines give the intended function as per Alien's design. It is easier on the eye and the ability to see when each of the lines is becoming exhausted is very useful in knowing when pullbacks will occur, this clarity becomes lost as the lines overlap more at the lower part of the axis

The beauty of Aliens approach is the visual way it displays what is happening, there are very few (if any) absolute values used. This has proved itself over and over which is why it should be a maintained part of the system (if possible).

I haven't tested your indie yet but based on the comments back thus far, is it possible to achieve what you have provided (ie a single indicator) but with the feature of unfixed values for each line within the window. ie by example my version of ADX Slope New running on v950 but superceded by your single indie running on V1010+

Hopefully I have summarised what was quite a lengthy discussion when it first surfaced and hope you may help

Kind regards
  • #16,426
  • Sep 30, 2016 4:26am Sep 30, 2016 4:26am
Quoting jpadvisor
{quote} Made 145 pips yesterday on this call. No other alien fellow took it?
No, I didnt get that one I was more intrigued by the AUDUSD top on H4 and made 70 pips

P.S : I see a double bottom + divergence on the GOLD H1 chart. Maybe a good time to go long?
  • #16,427
  • Sep 30, 2016 4:42am Sep 30, 2016 4:42am
Quoting TradeFinder
{quote} Hi Huub Thanks for quick response, excellent work as always I've got time later to go through these and will feedback One quick comment, this point of the fixed scale for this window was a topic of conversation way back in the early days and it was agreed on two counts 1) technically your point is valid and that if you leave unfixed then you cannot measure the precise values of each displayed line 2) visually the unfixed lines give the intended function as per Alien's design. It is easier on the eye and the ability to see when each of the...
@ Emonts,
first of all, thank you for your efforts as this is an issue that we have from a long time.
On the other hand I want to explain the importance to have the ADX lines unfixed. All ADX lines are important as their contraction to floor means that afterwards there will be an expansion of them and a big move. Usually this comes together with a BBS. Furthermore the fanning of the 5 ADX give us clues about continuation of the move and timing for exit the trade.
Hope it helps. Cheers
Per aspera ad astra
  • #16,428
  • Edited 6:08am Sep 30, 2016 5:03am | Edited 6:08am
Quoting emonts
HI, I combined the indi's ADX Slope New and Advanced_ADX Kerry into one new indicator. The matching of the scaling is not needed. BR Huub {file}
Hi EMONTS,

Talking about ADX and combining... please consider adding the ADX feature in the Dashboard you provided on your post no. 15.299 (in this case based only on Alien's set up of ADX full power).

Please see my post no. 16.133 and 16.395

Please also see AYAN post 16.159 with ADX indicator with full power alert.

My suggestion to the new column:
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  • #16,429
  • Edited 8:05am Sep 30, 2016 6:49am | Edited 8:05am
Quoting ayan
{quote} here we go change alert time frame where u want to get alert when all 7,21,42,89,144 r lime or red it gives u alert on selected time frame {file} {image}
Great indicator Ayan.

Could you please make it smaller size. I think it is big in size. Also make it to place in indicator window. This will be great.


Thanks
Saiffx
  • #16,430
  • Sep 30, 2016 9:25am Sep 30, 2016 9:25am
Quoting ayan
{quote} hi idris tell me what u want what is 10% missing i will try to cover it
Hi ayan,
I have a small request for you .. please check your inbox please .
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  • #16,431
  • Sep 30, 2016 9:54am Sep 30, 2016 9:54am
hi db ninja i will make it for u please remind me tomorrow
  • #16,432
  • Sep 30, 2016 9:55am Sep 30, 2016 9:55am
Quoting saiffx
{quote} Great indicator Ayan. Could you please make it smaller size. I think it is big in size. Also make it to place in indicator window. This will be great. Thanks Saiffx
thanks saif u will change box size on parameter list of indicator
  • #16,433
  • Sep 30, 2016 11:38pm Sep 30, 2016 11:38pm
Quoting ayan
hi db ninja i will make it for u please remind me tomorrow
Thanks for your kindly attention ...
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  • #16,434
  • Edited 4:38am Oct 1, 2016 2:31am | Edited 4:38am
Could somebody help me analyze AUDUSD a bit further? I see a double top on H4 which instigated the wave 1 and now I am waiting for the wave 2 to end to start the wave 3, the money wave where we enter.

We got ADX compression on H4 which started to fan out a bit when the wave 1 occured. Does this mean a bearish move is incoming?

Am I doing it correctly? I am still pretty much learning it.

Thank you very much,
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  • #16,435
  • Oct 1, 2016 7:50am Oct 1, 2016 7:50am
Quoting Boferer
Could somebody help me analyze AUDUSD a bit further? I see a double top on H4 which instigated the wave 1 and now I am waiting for the wave 2 to end to start the wave 3, the money wave where we enter. We got ADX compression on H4 which started to fan out a bit when the wave 1 occured. Does this mean a bearish move is incoming? Am I doing it correctly? I am still pretty much learning it. Thank you very much, {image} {image} {image}
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  • #16,436
  • Oct 1, 2016 7:56am Oct 1, 2016 7:56am
Quoting Sparkoz
{quote} {image}
So is it reasonable to say the H4 money wave will come (based on the divergence)? Isnt the retrace on H4 a bit too big?

Thanks!
  • #16,437
  • Oct 1, 2016 8:20am Oct 1, 2016 8:20am
Quoting Boferer
{quote} So is it reasonable to say the H4 money wave will come (based on the divergence)? Isnt the retrace on H4 a bit too big? Thanks!
Hi Boferer, I'm not good at wave counting so perhaps other Alien users could help ... I see M15 divergence however at the top of the trend channel; on H4 looks like it will cross short... What ADX indi are using for your squares ... Just wondering why mine are so different to yours...
  • #16,438
  • Oct 1, 2016 8:50am Oct 1, 2016 8:50am
Quoting Sparkoz
{quote} Hi Boferer, I'm not good at wave counting so perhaps other Alien users could help ... I see M15 divergence however at the top of the trend channel; on H4 looks like it will cross short... What ADX indi are using for your squares ... Just wondering why mine are so different to yours...
I got the template from JPadvisor I think

The way I see it is as a top on H4 with a divergence shown + a top on the daily. SO in my opinion after this H4 retracement wave is finished, there should be the wave 3 which could be nice, but I might by wrong.
  • #16,439
  • Oct 1, 2016 9:04am Oct 1, 2016 9:04am
Quoting Boferer
{quote} So is it reasonable to say the H4 money wave will come (based on the divergence)? Isnt the retrace on H4 a bit too big? Thanks!
Daily (rsioma) and H4(21sto) has bearish divergence
H1 has now hidden bearish divergence
The retrace of H4 is not too big,put fibonacci retracement on the recent swing high and low and you will see that price hits exactly 61.8 level.
If you watch closely,Monthly tf has a DS short developing and weekly tf is looking for the 2nd top (21 sto)
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  • #16,440
  • Oct 1, 2016 9:12am Oct 1, 2016 9:12am
Quoting marcof91
{quote} Daily (rsioma) and H4(21sto) has bearish divergence H1 has now hidden bearish divergence The retrace of H4 is not too big,put fibonacci retracement on the recent swing high and low and you will see that price hits exactly 61.8 level. If you watch closely,Monthly tf has a DS short developing and weekly tf is looking for the 2nd top (21 sto) {image}
So do you think it is wise to go short now and targetr 0.72-0.74? It might be the trend continuation on the weekly TF.
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