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  • #361
  • Aug 28, 2006 6:02am Aug 28, 2006 6:02am
Hi can someone help me please ? ? ? I have little problem

Dots dont apper on my charts, I have to refresh graph by turning between periods. Im using 30 min when I want to see if dots change I need to turn it on 1 hour period and then back to 30 min period i think its some bug or I have wrong setings, can someone help me please ?

Thank you
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  • #362
  • Aug 28, 2006 6:33am Aug 28, 2006 6:33am
Hello wackena, how do i install the EA in my MT4? I havent use EA before this, and kinda a first timer. Hope u give me the guide that i need.

Thank you in advance
  • #363
  • Aug 28, 2006 6:46am Aug 28, 2006 6:46am
Quoting hanselgreetel
Hello wackena, how do i install the EA in my MT4? I havent use EA before this, and kinda a first timer. Hope u give me the guide that i need.

Thank you in advance
You can find Userguide here.

http://www.metaquotes.net/files/metatrader4_en.chm

Wackena
  • #364
  • Aug 28, 2006 9:31am Aug 28, 2006 9:31am
Regarding the New EA Bogie_Tlatomi_v1.0b

Everything Ok, except it opened up USD/CHF in the worong direction a BUY, up over $109 on GBP/USD since last night on .01 lots, however seems to be opening up againwhen I close it reopens in the wrong direction only so far for USD/CHF, other's words fine is it a bug or am I doing something wrong, I reversed on my own by taking it off the chart and now showing profit?
  • #365
  • Aug 28, 2006 11:34am Aug 28, 2006 11:34am
Quoting txsundevil
Regarding the New EA Bogie_Tlatomi_v1.0b

Everything Ok, except it opened up USD/CHF in the worong direction a BUY, up over $109 on GBP/USD since last night on .01 lots, however seems to be opening up againwhen I close it reopens in the wrong direction only so far for USD/CHF, other's words fine is it a bug or am I doing something wrong, I reversed on my own by taking it off the chart and now showing profit?
I Also had a usd/chf Buy order placed at 0500 GMT entry price 1.2363 and a eur/chf Buy order placed at 1300 GMT entry price 1.5799. Reviewing H4 charts, both appear to have been placed in wrong direction. I don't know why, I will try to investigate.

Wackena
  • #366
  • Edited 1:05pm Aug 28, 2006 1:02pm | Edited 1:05pm
Wackena

Thank's in advance for trying to correct this looked at the 4H chart for CHF/USD it showed a buy at 1.2364, not near the dot and the cross the other curriences were fine. GPB profit of $92 on 0.1 lot and $27 on 0.1 Lot EUR closed postions. Would like to try MM, when you update and correct the EA. current an AUD/USD is open with profit of $12 on 0.1 lot, correct entry.

Quoting wackena
I Also had a usd/chf Buy order placed at 0500 GMT entry price 1.2363 and a eur/chf Buy order placed at 1300 GMT entry price 1.5799. Reviewing H4 charts, both appear to have been placed in wrong direction. I don't know why, I will try to investigate.

Wackena
  • #367
  • Edited 3:54pm Aug 28, 2006 2:29pm | Edited 3:54pm
txsundevil,

Are you on H4 only or H4 and H1 ?

wackena,
New EA works so far. 1 trade on GBPUSD H4. 78 pips profit !
Thanks for your work !

BTW I can only refresh Silver Trend Indicator when I remove it from the chart and put it back on. Is it normal ?
  • #368
  • Aug 28, 2006 3:51pm Aug 28, 2006 3:51pm
Wackena,

You have built a nice range of external variables! Thank you for your hard work.

The earlier version opened a position to the wrong direction on EURUSD pair for me this morning as well. Hopefully that bug has been fixed in Bogie_tlatomi_v1.0b.

A thought about the hedging function:
Bogie_tlatomi_v1.0b opens two market orders (one buy and one sell) at the same time. So one of them goes against us while the other goes to profit. According to the best case scenario the first one then the other takes profit, but in the worst case scenario the first one then the other will stop out - depending on the market movement.

Other strategies such as news trading straddles open pending orders both sides of trade (buy and sell). Once the first pending order has been activated the other side is liquidated and the positive is used to go to profit direction. (I think the same method could also be considered in case of Firebird 1.0b versions.)


Quoting wackena
As many have found out, the orignal posted EA did not totally operate as intended. It was also placing some orders opposite to desired long or short direction. It took awhile, but I think I found the reason. Attached is modified EA with the following extras.

1. UseMM - Option to use Money Management to set lot size based on Risk % of AccountEquity.

2. UseDot - Option to use Calculated Red - Blue dot location for order entry

3. UseCross - Option to use 5EMA & 9SMA cross for order entry.

4. UseStartBar - Option to use start of new bar for order entry.

(These 3 features can be used alone or in any combination for order entry)

Order exit is now when Dot value changes and 5EMA - 9SMA reverse cross.

In backtest, using Dot value only for order entry produced best results on H4 charts. Lower timeframe chart selections did not backtest well.

5. TrailingStop

6. UseHedgeOrder - Option to place hedge order if main order moves in wrong direction wth parameter set that can be set different than main order.

If problems are found, please advise and I will try to correct. If any additonal technical indicators would like to be used as compliment to order entry or exit, please advise and I will try to include in EA. This EA is a work in process. For me, the best improvements in an EA comes from the people that test it and provide feedback. This feedback needs to confirm the good and point out the bad aspects.

Wackena
  • #369
  • Aug 28, 2006 4:34pm Aug 28, 2006 4:34pm
Hi Wackena !

I've attached your latest version of bogie_tlatomi to my GBP/USD 15 min
Chart but no order was placed, when the two EMA's crossed each other.

I want bogie_tlatomi to buy/sell when the EMA's cross each other.

Where is the fault ??

Greetings

Bernhard
  • #370
  • Aug 28, 2006 4:46pm Aug 28, 2006 4:46pm
txsundevil, (tom)

Are you on H4 only or H4 and H1 ?

Only on H4, and as stated do not run the CHF curriencies since they are not currently placing orders correctly until the EA is updated. Since GPB & EUR, seem to trend well may try 1H on those but when you look at 1H charts it appears very tight in most circumstanes to make a profit, seem to be alot of whipsaws even with the 1H charts especially CAD & AUD. EUR/JPY appears to be a very good trending currency several times a month on the 4H chart.
  • #371
  • Aug 28, 2006 5:00pm Aug 28, 2006 5:00pm
Quoting behof
Hi Wackena !

I've attached your latest version of bogie_tlatomi to my GBP/USD 15 min
Chart but no order was placed, when the two EMA's crossed each other.

I want bogie_tlatomi to buy/sell when the EMA's cross each other.

Where is the fault ??

Greetings

Bernhard
Bernhard,

In backtesting, H4 chart was the only chart selection that produced positive results. The EA and SHI_SilverTrend_SIG indicator use the Highest and lowest function to determine reverse trend point. They are set to scan previous 9 periods for highest and lowest values. I can only assume that 9 H4 periods is the best scan range for valid reverse points. Anything less and data is suspect. If needed, in the future, I will investigate to let EA scan H4 range even when on lower timeframe chart selections to see what happens.

Wackena



Wackena
  • #372
  • Aug 28, 2006 5:06pm Aug 28, 2006 5:06pm
Quoting txsundevil
txsundevil, (tom)

Are you on H4 only or H4 and H1 ?

Only on H4, and as stated do not run the CHF curriencies since they are not currently placing orders correctly until the EA is updated. Since GPB & EUR, seem to trend well may try 1H on those but when you look at 1H charts it appears very tight in most circumstanes to make a profit, seem to be alot of whipsaws even with the 1H charts especially CAD & AUD. EUR/JPY appears to be a very good trending currency several times a month on the 4H chart.
thanks txsundevil,
I tried GBPUSD on M30. Trade in the wrong direction.
Silver Trend and MA Crossover indicators do not refresh whatever I try except when I remove them and reapply to the charts.
I will stay with H4 now. Does anyone have similar problems with indicators ?
  • #373
  • Aug 28, 2006 5:18pm Aug 28, 2006 5:18pm
Quoting Linuxser
Hello judex001 and others

Iīve made some modifications to the original method trying to avoid the SHI_silvertrend_signal.
First, Iīve modified one indicator to show in chart window the crosses of the FX Sniperīs ergodic CCI Trigger.
Then I added some MA, and discarded SHI_silvertrend_signal and added a Zig Zag based indicator.
Like all zigzag indicator, previous low and previous high can be modified any time due to price action, but in 4h the repaints are not common or, not in the same way like SHI_silvertrend _signal does.

Pls, see the picture.
basically the SHI and ZigZag are doing pretty much the same thing I think. They are both referencing past price moves to predict the future. I think Judex intended the SHI to be nothing more than an early warning system. The system actually trades on the basis of the non lag MA or 5-9MA cross plus the cross of the Ergodic CCI. Probably the only real use of the SHI or Zig Zag as such is to note whether the dots or the points are ascending or descending. That can give you an idea of which way the cross should go. neither of these indicators is suitable for actual trading. You might want to look at Akuma99's blog (just Google Akuma99). He has a page on the proper use of the Zig Zag indicators. It's just not really that important to the method and could be left completely out. You can just use a ema crossover signal in place of it. That will let you know when a trade is available too.
  • #374
  • Aug 28, 2006 10:41pm Aug 28, 2006 10:41pm
Quoting wackena
Bernhard,

In backtesting, H4 chart was the only chart selection that produced positive results. The EA and SHI_SilverTrend_SIG indicator use the Highest and lowest function to determine reverse trend point. They are set to scan previous 9 periods for highest and lowest values. I can only assume that 9 H4 periods is the best scan range for valid reverse points. Anything less and data is suspect. If needed, in the future, I will investigate to let EA scan H4 range even when on lower timeframe chart selections to see what happens.

Wackena



Wackena
Thanks Wackena, for the great job!
I put EA on a live test on H4 chart, also I selected only H4 chart for SilverTrend dots (just in case if the previous confusion was created by inputs from other TF - most probably it is just superstition, but let's see).

I put the EA on live trading from dot to dot (thank you again), but if SilverTrend needs to be refreshed every 4 hours to have dots placed on the chart, how about EA? As I understood - the EA calculates signals the way SilverTrend does, so even if SilverTrend didn't put a dot on the chart, the EA still calculates the dot signal and would enter the trade as if the dot would be there, right?
Or am I mistaken?

Good day to you.
  • #375
  • Aug 28, 2006 11:56pm Aug 28, 2006 11:56pm
The expert failed to notice an exit signal on u/chf and u/cad long. So basically I give up testing it. The fact it went from +20 to -34 in a few hours was enough for me. I dont think this method can be programmed.
  • #376
  • Aug 29, 2006 12:23am Aug 29, 2006 12:23am
This EA is still in it's early stages give it a chance it is working on GBP, EUR, AUD, yes it failed to give the signal for the CAD, and the CHF is in the wrong direction, it still is a fairly good EA, and remember you can override once in a trade your stops profit taking etc. You also have to be patient for the setups, the question I have is why not let the EA place orders at the cross, seems to be a very good entry place with little risk, just look at the 4H charts.
  • #377
  • Aug 29, 2006 1:54am Aug 29, 2006 1:54am
Quoting lietuve
Thanks Wackena, for the great job!
I put EA on a live test on H4 chart, also I selected only H4 chart for SilverTrend dots (just in case if the previous confusion was created by inputs from other TF - most probably it is just superstition, but let's see).

I put the EA on live trading from dot to dot (thank you again), but if SilverTrend needs to be refreshed every 4 hours to have dots placed on the chart, how about EA? As I understood - the EA calculates signals the way SilverTrend does, so even if SilverTrend didn't put a dot on the chart, the EA still calculates the dot signal and would enter the trade as if the dot would be there, right?
Or am I mistaken?

Good day to you.
Yes, I believe that to be true. Both EA and Indicator have current data. The Indicator just doesn't keep dots current. I will post Indicator on this and Metaquotes forums and ask if someone can explain why this is so. And if there is a cure.

Wackena.
  • #378
  • Aug 29, 2006 2:56am Aug 29, 2006 2:56am
Attached is Bogie_tlatomi_v1.0c. Added features and changes are:

1. UseEmail - if true, sends email notifications to recipient as setup in the Opiton's Email. Email on open orders. And, if UseCloseSignal=true, Email on order closings.

2. Exit trigger reverted back to new dot appearing only. Exit trigger in v1.0b was new dot appearance and 5ema & 9sma reverse cross. After a day of reviewing demo order closing, I believe some profits were lost after new dot appeared and then waiting for reverse cross.

Now we have several EA versions and it can become confusing to new thread members and in fact to me also. But, this is a developing EA and changes will happen. I'm getting several PMs from new members, and in most cases asking for already posted or discussed information. I highly suggest that each new member start at the beginning of this thread and read it carefully. Believe me, this will answer a lot of yor initial questions and then you can be near to "up to speed" as most of the rest of us. Then if you have questions, please post questions here on this thread or contact me via PM.

Wackena
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File Type: mq4 Bogie_tlatomi_v1.0c.mq4   11 KB | 766 downloads
  • #379
  • Aug 29, 2006 6:29am Aug 29, 2006 6:29am
I tested the EA on Gold Futures and so far so good. First trade is in the positive
Well done.
  • #380
  • Aug 29, 2006 4:08pm Aug 29, 2006 4:08pm
Is there a chance the use email feature can contain a mail list, which will send mail to all the email addresses listed?
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