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  • #3,701
  • Sep 3, 2016 5:29am Sep 3, 2016 5:29am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} No problem. And you will have much flexibility for create different strategies with bands. You will enjoy the improvement, I'm sure. Its real forward step And now working in server {image}
How is it going? A lot of headaches I bet.
  • #3,702
  • Sep 3, 2016 5:54am Sep 3, 2016 5:54am
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} How is it going? A lot of headaches I bet.
Resolving issue with bands. The strategy i coded was a trick for speed up the tests but is not working well. Can't follow trend without early exit. Then i have code original idea and that needs more time. But this monday i will have server with new stuff for test other ideas ( simpler )
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  • #3,703
  • Sep 3, 2016 6:02am Sep 3, 2016 6:02am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Resolving issue with bands. The strategy i coded was a trick for speed up the tests but is not working well. Can't follow trend without early exit. Then i have code original idea and that needs more time. But this monday i will have server with new stuff for test other ideas ( simpler )
Exits are a bitch. Almost need a crystal ball.
Well good luck Amigo.
  • #3,704
  • Sep 3, 2016 6:05am Sep 3, 2016 6:05am
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} Exits are a bitch. Almost need a crystal ball.
In this case is because i use so simpler strategy. I'm using inner BI but original use outter BI ( opposite ). If you check charts you will see the difference
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  • #3,705
  • Sep 3, 2016 6:10am Sep 3, 2016 6:10am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} In this case is because i use so simpler strategy. I'm using inner BI but original use outter BI ( opposite ). If you check charts you will see the difference
How is that going to work when range is only 45 pips?
  • #3,706
  • Edited 1:30pm Sep 3, 2016 6:38am | Edited 1:30pm
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} How is that going to work when range is only 45 pips?
Optimal way is change strategy ( what bands you use ). But now only possibility is accept some losses in range. Without market detection you can't have one strategy working well in all scenarios. Basically i need very smoother MA for opposite BI is touched near swing. This resolve Trend problem. Range problem is a trial and error. For example:

You have sell in trend moment. When you are near swing price touch opposite BI. Trade is closed. Now you open other sell and you wait touch opposite BI. If happens next trade will be buy in new bull trend and you will catch almost all moment. If that trade is wrong buy trade will open at same BI you opened sell.

If your are in range in theory you will have some opposite BI closes with small profit ( i use 10/15 pips BI ). That means you have 30 pips window. The worst case you will have one bad trade when new trend start. But code this is a little more difficult that trade it manually. I will see how I implement it.

But later I will put captures. Now I'm outside home
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  • #3,707
  • Sep 3, 2016 10:33am Sep 3, 2016 10:33am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Optimal way is change strategy ( what bands you use ). But now only possibility is accept some losses in range. Without market detection you can't have one strategy working well in all scenarios. Basically i need very smoother MA for opposite BI is touched near swing. This resolve Trend problem. Range problem is a trial and error. For example: You have sell in trend moment. When you are near swing price touch opposite BI. Trade is closed. Now you open other sell and you wait touch opposite BI. If happens next trade will be buy in new bull...
Perhaps these bands can solve the problem the main trend and false deviations from it (false breakout) ... thus we fear less.
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  • #3,708
  • Edited 1:30pm Sep 3, 2016 10:54am | Edited 1:30pm
Quoting Catalin68
{quote} Perhaps these bands can solve the problem the main trend and false deviations from it (false breakout) ... thus we fear less. {image}
Basically that is the idea...

PS: Can you plot this COG in same chart you showed me?
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  • #3,709
  • Sep 3, 2016 11:27am Sep 3, 2016 11:27am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Basically that is the idea... PS: Can you plot this COG in same chart you showed me? {file}
I tried with the same settings, but as it turns out is not the same thing ... at least visually, missing the picture to give you confidence. In addition JB COG is charging hard enough in the chart, compared with HolyCh. which is instant.
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  • #3,710
  • Sep 3, 2016 11:38am Sep 3, 2016 11:38am
Quoting Catalin68
{quote} I tried with the same settings, but as it turns out is not the same thing ... at least visually, missing the picture to give you confidence. In addition JB COG is charging hard enough in the chart, compared with HolyCh. which is instant. {image}
I don't know the difference in code but maybe its because repaints. I know you told me don't repaint time ago but you see how draw same indicator repainting or not. Repaint version looks like your
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  • #3,711
  • Sep 3, 2016 12:02pm Sep 3, 2016 12:02pm
Quoting Catalin68
{quote} Perhaps these bands can solve the problem the main trend and false deviations from it (false breakout) ... thus we fear less. {image}
The bands doesn't solve that kind of problem , it will create even a bigger problem since it lag even more. There is no indicator that can filter false breakout's, the greater the delay the worse it becomes entry.

Use correlation and strength of pairs to be sure there is not a solo breakout, the momentum is always stronger when there is a full basket signal.
Be sure that risk reward & win ratio is proper adjusted so you can deal with the false breakouts. In a weak market the breakout's will be smaller, so you're TP and filters just be flexible .
By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail.
  • #3,712
  • Edited 1:30pm Sep 3, 2016 12:44pm | Edited 1:30pm
Interesting way...

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=343533
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  • #3,713
  • Sep 3, 2016 1:38pm Sep 3, 2016 1:38pm
Current bands build ( no original bands idea, only one for try have an early band strategy ). This strategy is a big fail. If this setup looks not bad is because MA settings are very optimized for this pair. But normally looks worst
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  • #3,714
  • Sep 3, 2016 2:25pm Sep 3, 2016 2:25pm
This is original bands. Its better but we are suffering some bad losses. But overall its positive
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  • #3,715
  • Sep 3, 2016 3:00pm Sep 3, 2016 3:00pm
This is more advanced strategy in a future. I have many data genereated in current Trend build for build complex strategies. That data have MA crosses, bands touches, slopes distance ( bars and pips ), slope speed ( very useful for acceleration/deceleration of MA )...
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  • #3,716
  • Sep 3, 2016 5:06pm Sep 3, 2016 5:06pm
Quoting Catalin68
{quote} I tried with the same settings, but as it turns out is not the same thing ... at least visually, missing the picture to give you confidence. In addition JB COG is charging hard enough in the chart, compared with HolyCh. which is instant. {image}
Hello Catalin can share settings you use indicator JB COG
Thank you so much
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  • #3,717
  • Sep 4, 2016 12:51am Sep 4, 2016 12:51am
Quoting project13et
{quote} The bands doesn't solve that kind of problem , it will create even a bigger problem since it lag even more. There is no indicator that can filter false breakout's, the greater the delay the worse it becomes entry. Use correlation and strength of pairs to be sure there is not a solo breakout, the momentum is always stronger when there is a full basket signal. Be sure that risk reward & win ratio is proper adjusted so you can deal with the false breakouts. In a weak market the breakout's will be smaller, so you're TP and filters just be flexible...
Appreciate this info, for which many thanks. These bands are not exclusive, which leads me to make a decision.

Quoting fuenwood
{quote} Hello Catalin can share settings you use indicator JB COG Thank you so much
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  • #3,718
  • Sep 4, 2016 4:36am Sep 4, 2016 4:36am
Even a bird can be tenacious when his strong desire for the completion of a thing ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...tire-tree.html
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  • #3,719
  • Sep 4, 2016 3:25pm Sep 4, 2016 3:25pm
I propose to follow all, evolution EU in the next 5 days. I believe it will be up to the marked area (1.1650 to 1.1680).
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  • #3,720
  • Sep 4, 2016 3:31pm Sep 4, 2016 3:31pm
Quoting Catalin68
I propose to follow all, evolution EU in the next 5 days. I believe it will be up to the marked area (1.1650 to 1.1680). {image}
I agree. Will up and GU too. But i don't know what price. But if go until 1.16 I will clean 2 bad trades with big profit
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