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  • #3,321
  • Jul 29, 2016 2:54pm Jul 29, 2016 2:54pm
One week tests,dashtrend different settings day by day to fit well on the market,getting there step by step...
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  • #3,322
  • Edited 4:43pm Jul 29, 2016 3:34pm | Edited 4:43pm
I think yesterday builds destroyed your week. I hope all bugs fixed for can do good tests next week
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  • #3,323
  • Jul 29, 2016 3:37pm Jul 29, 2016 3:37pm
Quoting braintheboss
I think yesterday builds destroyed your week. I hope all bugs fixed for can do good tests next build
yes was exit problem.
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  • #3,324
  • Jul 29, 2016 3:40pm Jul 29, 2016 3:40pm
Quoting Husky77
{quote} yes was exit problem.
Big nightmare
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  • #3,325
  • Edited 9:29pm Jul 29, 2016 7:08pm | Edited 9:29pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Big nightmare

Brain
I've been playing around with the bands and like them better. How do I get two bands like in your captures? Two trends on top of each other?
Do you have to manually adjust them for each pair? If they would auto adjust to bar/candle size and give a pin arrow when price touches range band and prevent trade if price below RR 1:1 and not in overbought oversold zone on current and higher tf it might work well with bid ratio. Still need SnR confirmation for breakouts though. Is the outer bands for overbought oversold and is based on ATR? I just don't see how slopes alone is going to fix bid ratio bad trade logic. No wonder Jibala uses so many algorithms. Sorry for all the questions. I can't wait to try out new trend. They sure look nice together. The COG I don't like. Repainting doesn't bother me because after a breakout if I am not in early I am not going to jump in until after a pullback and the channel will have already readjusted I think.
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  • #3,326
  • Jul 30, 2016 2:00am Jul 30, 2016 2:00am
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} Brain I've been playing around with the bands and like them better. How do I get two bands like in your captures? Two trends on top of each other? Do you have to manually adjust them for each pair? If they would auto adjust to bar/candle size and give a pin arrow when price touches range band and prevent trade if price below RR 1:1 and not in overbought oversold zone on current and higher tf it might work well with bid ratio. Still need SnR confirmation for breakouts though. Is the outer bands for overbought oversold and is based on ATR?...
I like people ask me. About bands you are right. I use 2 Trend. 50/80 pips works well but like you told not all pairs needs same values. Adjustment are manual and fixed size because I'm testing how works and learning the right strategy with it. But basically I have clear I will use way explained a few posts ago.

Range moments I treat on different way. But you can use different ways. Enter buy in a lower inner band to opposite inner band or other combinations. In manual is easier take this kind of decisions.

About how I will implement it for auto I have some ideas because I know not sure how will works every thing. But my first option is this:

1) I will use SnR areas distance for read range moments. I will use too fractals frequency in SnR ( I will use internally lookup bars option to 0 ). This is the original SnR behavior. I have a second way used in adaptative option in Trend. That count a distance between HH/HL couple. Normally when this figures are near of next couple you are at range moment. But this only if first way is not enough

2) Bands dynamic areas only in range moments. And I will use a shift offset of normal bands size. This avoid Bollinger problem when bands follow price in breakouts. When price breaks a band I use the return cross for take actions. You have good example in capture I posted before. I close big breakout when price cross outer band. Before this exit you have big pullback filtered because don't touch outer bands. Remember I wait price close is inside/outside bands depending the moment.

3) New slopes neutral areas and snr trend areas will be useful in breakouts. Opposite inner/outer bands too. For TP normally inner/outer bands area and outer opposite bands for SL. For reentering MA/opposite inner bands area

Basically that is the idea. Are many things to code

But now we have temporal solutions like baskets. Works enough well for use with current dashtrend

About SnR I finally use it as breakout tool. For range moments it's more useful as filter than entry/exits. But you have take care because have a trick within zones size. If you have breakout levels but price don't move much then you don't have enter. This happens because zones are very small and breakout happens in very low volatility. Normally I use strength because give strong movement even price don't move much. When I see this i don't enter and I wait bigger SnR areas for trading.

I'm not sure if this resolve your doubts or you have more doubts now
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  • #3,327
  • Edited 5:04am Jul 30, 2016 4:28am | Edited 5:04am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} I like people ask me. About bands you are right. I use 2 Trend. 50/80 pips works well but like you told not all pairs needs same values. Adjustment are manual and fixed size because I'm testing how works and learning the right strategy with it. But basically I have clear I will use way explained a few posts ago. Range moments I treat on different way. But you can use different ways. Enter buy in a lower inner band to opposite inner band or other combinations. In manual is easier take this kind of decisions. About how I will implement it...
Wow you sure have given this a lot of thought Doctor! You aren't going to piece this together during a lightning storm are you?
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  • #3,328
  • Jul 30, 2016 4:34am Jul 30, 2016 4:34am
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} Wow you sure have given this a lot of thought Doctor! You aren't going to put this together during a lightning storm are you?
I only know when I'm at computer some hours and I touch my gf she get a electricity shock. Maybe I'm THE STORM Really I like resolve problems. For that I like code. But we will see how works all this when I finish it in a few decades...
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  • #3,329
  • Jul 30, 2016 5:18am Jul 30, 2016 5:18am
I forget one thing about Trend and bid ratio. I want test neutral areas with bid ratio. One Trend with new slopes and one bid ratio can have curious results. The idea is you have signal if both same have signal or bid ratio have it and Trend is neutral.

If somebody have DashTZ old build with no priorities can be good test. Anyway when I finish current Trend I want rework DashTZ as PIN mixer only
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  • #3,330
  • Jul 30, 2016 5:39am Jul 30, 2016 5:39am
All I have is v.76 sorry or I would.


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  • #3,331
  • Jul 30, 2016 5:47am Jul 30, 2016 5:47am
Quoting PipFlak
All I have is v.76 sorry or I would. Brain at work on his newest creation....https://youtu.be/1qNeGSJaQ9Q
Yes. It's last build. v0.78 it's same without TZ and SnR inside and early trades manager. But I have long time without touch this project. I'm waiting have finished all modules in other projects for can add it and have clean and stable version. DashTrend is really the base of new DashTZ. Really I didn't make for have Trend EA but later i saw with tests is not bad idea develop it as standalone EA
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  • #3,332
  • Jul 30, 2016 5:53am Jul 30, 2016 5:53am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Yes. It's last build. v0.78 it's same without TZ and SnR inside and early trades manager. But I have long time without touch this project. I'm waiting have finished all modules in other projects for can add it and have clean and stable version. DashTrend is really the base of new DashTZ. Really I didn't make for have Trend EA but later i saw with tests is not bad idea develop it as standalone EA
I can't mix EAX bidratio can I? It's pins only go up to 5.
  • #3,333
  • Jul 30, 2016 6:00am Jul 30, 2016 6:00am
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} I can't mix EAX bidratio can I? It's pins only go up to 5.
DashTZ was a EAX extension for resolve some EAX limitations with PINs. If I'm not wrong you can mix 3 bidratios in one PIN inside EAX. Then you only need mix some PINs in DashTZ and send as one at EAX. My tools always let choose PIN channel then you don't have problems for let EAX PINs free for other uses. But I didn't test last EAX build and I don't know how works bid ratio PINs exactly
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  • #3,334
  • Jul 30, 2016 6:11am Jul 30, 2016 6:11am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} DashTZ was a EAX extension for resolve some EAX limitations with PINs. If I'm not wrong you can mix 3 bidratios in one PIN inside EAX. Then you only need mix some PINs in DashTZ and send as one at EAX. My tools always let choose PIN channel then you don't have problems for let EAX PINs free for other uses. But I didn't test last EAX build and I don't know how works bid ratio PINs exactly

Correct me if I am wrong I haven't used digital logic in al long time but EAX is basically used as an 'and gate' and for this test you want to use DashTZ as an nand gate. The problem I see is because the way the EAX bidratio is coded you only have a choice of assigning the pins 1-5 so how do you send them to dashtz without sending them to EAX at the same time?
Wait a minute, if you use a deselected pin on EAX it won't do anything maybe that will work. I will try it.
  • #3,335
  • Jul 30, 2016 7:00am Jul 30, 2016 7:00am
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} Correct me if I am wrong I haven't used digital logic in al long time but EAX is basically used as an 'and gate' and for this test you want to use DashTZ as an nand gate. The problem I see is because the way the EAX bidratio is coded you only have a choice of assigning the pins 1-5 so how do you send them to dashtz without sending them to EAX at the same time? Wait a minute, if you use a deselected pin on EAX it won't do anything maybe that will work. I will try it.
You answered yourself. You will spend one PIN for use bid ratio but still you will have 4 free. PIN bid ratio to DashTZ and there you make the mix you want. Later send it to EAX. Only let DashTZ mix PIN enabled in EAX
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  • #3,336
  • Jul 30, 2016 10:07am Jul 30, 2016 10:07am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} You answered yourself. You will spend one PIN for use bid ratio but still you will have 4 free. PIN bid ratio to DashTZ and there you make the mix you want. Later send it to EAX. Only let DashTZ mix PIN enabled in EAX
ok this is what you want?


Trend BR Out
0 0 0
1 1 1
1 0 0
0 1 1
  • #3,337
  • Jul 30, 2016 11:05am Jul 30, 2016 11:05am
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} ok this is what you want? Trend BR Out 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1
Yes. But i saw how do it and I think its impossible have bold line in last build

Trend BR Out
0 0 0
1 1 1
1 0 0 -> 1
0 1 1

If you put both priorities 1 that will give signal 1 when one is not neutral. I though trying find combination using EAX PIN entry/exit but same problem. For works we need old DashTZ behavior ( non signal priority ). Or add an value for neutral signals. Maybe I will try have an special build for that this weekend. The idea is try bidratio with new slopes ( neutral signals )

PS: Now i'm busy making analyzer for trades report...
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  • #3,338
  • Jul 30, 2016 11:22am Jul 30, 2016 11:22am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Yes. But i saw how do it and I think its impossible have bold line in last build Trend BR Out 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 -> 1 0 1 1 If you put both priorities 1 that will give signal 1 when one is not neutral. I though trying find combination using EAX PIN entry/exit but same problem. For works we need old DashTZ behavior ( non signal priority ). Or add an value for neutral signals. Maybe I will try have an special build for that this weekend. The idea is try bidratio with new slopes ( neutral signals ) PS: Now i'm busy making analyzer for trades...
I already tried it by assigning priority 2 to Br and 1 to Trend and it worked. When I put slope on trend and cont on BR I get a high. When I put trend on cont and BR on slope I get a low. Both on slope a low and both on cont a high. Is this wrong? What am I missing?
  • #3,339
  • Edited 11:44am Jul 30, 2016 11:26am | Edited 11:44am
Quoting PipFlak
{quote} I already tried it by assigning priority 2 to Br and 1 to Trend and it worked. When I put slope on trend and cont on BR I get a high. When I put trend on cont and BR on slope I get a low. Both on slope a low and both on cont a high. Is this wrong? What am I missing?
Maybe who is wrong its me. So much time without use it . I will try finish new DashTrend tomorrow but if I cant i will upload build like is now ( dont works analyzer or other modes, only Trend mode ). For test new slopes its enough. And with bidratio can be interesting mix

About your table behaviour is the way I want test. The idea is Trend neutral areas works like early swing signal if bidratio shows opposite signal. Neutral areas in new slopes always starts before price swings becasue price suffers a deceleration. Bid ratio resolve delay happens when slope direction changes but dont have enough velocity for show signal ( price acceleration below trigger )

PS: Oppps. I need finish Trend ( Server ) for link it with EAX. So much work. I will think how I will do
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  • #3,340
  • Jul 30, 2016 11:38am Jul 30, 2016 11:38am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Maybe who is wrong its me. So much time without use it . I will try finish new DashTrend tomorrow but if I cant i will upload build like is now ( dont works analyzer or other modes, only Trend mode ). For test new slopes its enough. And with bidratio can be interesting mix PS: Oppps. I need finish Trend ( Server ) for link it with EAX. So much work. I will think how I will do
Ok cool...later.
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