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  • #2,881
  • May 15, 2016 12:33pm May 15, 2016 12:33pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Ok. I will study what kind of support i will do here. Maybe demo version is an intermediate solution
A lot of people will be grateful i am sure.
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  • #2,882
  • Edited 10:38am May 20, 2016 4:09am | Edited 10:38am
https://www.mql5.com/en/blogs/post/672542
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  • #2,883
  • May 22, 2016 12:22pm May 22, 2016 12:22pm
Awesome looking forward to Chapter 5.
Thank you for sharing.
  • #2,884
  • May 22, 2016 1:40pm May 22, 2016 1:40pm
Quoting SpencerBizze
Awesome looking forward to Chapter 5. Thank you for sharing.
Next chapter will be good because you will see the problem mixing 2 indicators. Really it's hard set up auto systems
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  • #2,885
  • May 23, 2016 3:49pm May 23, 2016 3:49pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Next chapter will be good because you will see the problem mixing 2 indicators. Really it's hard set up auto systems
Yip it is, making a little head way but I found that I have to setup that entries are very late in order to reduce draw downs and in turn it is is making exits late, which is further reducing profits.
Still working on this and testing.
  • #2,886
  • May 23, 2016 4:16pm May 23, 2016 4:16pm
Quoting SpencerBizze
{quote} Yip it is, making a little head way but I found that I have to setup that entries are very late in order to reduce draw downs and in turn it is is making exits late, which is further reducing profits. Still working on this and testing.
Next articles will help you to get ideas. Its experience I got while worked with Husky for improve tools
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  • #2,887
  • May 25, 2016 2:58pm May 25, 2016 2:58pm
https://www.mql5.com/en/blogs/post/672591
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  • #2,888
  • May 26, 2016 12:31am May 26, 2016 12:31am
Thanks again Brain.
From what I have been seeing in my testing the SnR used on the same TF 4 hours with default settings is filtering out the potential profitable trades as well when the trend is coming.
I am now testing with running tend 4hr, strength 4 hr with SnR 8hr.
Looking manually at history it looks to match up better for some reason over the last 500 bars. Not sure how it would fair in the future.
  • #2,889
  • Edited 5:07am May 26, 2016 1:58am | Edited 5:07am
Quoting SpencerBizze
Thanks again Brain. From what I have been seeing in my testing the SnR used on the same TF 4 hours with default settings is filtering out the potential profitable trades as well when the trend is coming. I am now testing with running tend 4hr, strength 4 hr with SnR 8hr. Looking manually at history it looks to match up better for some reason over the last 500 bars. Not sure how it would fair in the future.
Trend problem will be studied in next chapter. The idea with articles is see every problem happened in auto trading and possible solutions. At this moment we have 2 of 3 areas analyzed and resolved. Now it's moment of hardest part. The transition of range to trend moment
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I always thought people don't understand fine my tools. They see many information in chart but they think is not important or useful for trading. I think this will help to use it for analyze history and search ways to trading
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About history, bars don't affect to future results. If looks better maybe is because you catched good moment for SnR in that range.
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  • #2,890
  • May 26, 2016 3:36am May 26, 2016 3:36am
Today I had confirmation. Study version results are same than real trading. It's very good news. This open wide range of possibilities to make offline strategies. It's 3 days test
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  • #2,891
  • May 26, 2016 4:22am May 26, 2016 4:22am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Trend problem is studied in next chapter. The idea with articles is see every problem happened in auto trading and possible solutions. At this moment we have 2 of 3 areas analyzed and resolved. Now it's moment of hardest part. The transition of range to trend moment I always thought people don't understand fine my tools. They see many information in chart but they think is not important or useful for trading. I think this will help to use it for analyze history and search ways to trading About history, bars don't affect to future results....
Maybe you right, it is just a thought. This was my thinking and it might be completely wrong...

The issue I have been seeing when I am using your tools all on same TF (4hr), the trade will often get missed when the market is changing from range to trend we missing the start of the wave.
At the start of the wave what I usually see is that strength and trend is matching but then when these are matching the SnR is not matching or vice versa.
What you almost need is a delay on an indicator PIN's, or maybe use different MA to create the delay or slower response.
So one option the PIN generator can hold a signal for a certain number of bars after you have had the signal.

What I have been seeing is if we are bouncing off support or resistance then your SnR signal comes first and then trend and strength signal. But if you are breaking out, then Trend and strength comes first and then SnR.
Then on the exits you have the same issue if you use the same indicators to exit, that they don't all mactch at the exact same time, they are on neighboring bars and then the exit is missed.

My thoughts were to possibly change the TF on the one so it is responding earlier or later, which then can make the Idi's co-inside.
Probably way off but trying it.
Also will setup a VPS now with all on same TF to see how it behaves but it wasn't looking too good when I tested on my machine but maybe a bad day.
  • #2,892
  • May 26, 2016 4:23am May 26, 2016 4:23am
Quoting braintheboss
Today I had confirmation. Study version results are same than real trading. It's very good news. This open wide range of possibilities to make offline strategies. It's 3 days test {image}
Is this all on same TF's?
  • #2,893
  • May 26, 2016 4:55am May 26, 2016 4:55am
Quoting SpencerBizze
{quote} Is this all on same TF's?
Is only Trend indicator in one pair. Not more indicators involved. I use a modified version for only show signal at x bars from slope change. This resolve the problem happens with signals in extremes using MAs
Quoting SpencerBizze
{quote} Maybe you right, it is just a thought. This was my thinking and it might be completely wrong... The issue I have been seeing when I am using your tools all on same TF (4hr), the trade will often get missed when the market is changing from range to trend we missing the start of the wave. At the start of the wave what I usually see is that strength and trend is matching but then when these are matching the SnR is not matching or vice versa. What you almost need is a delay on an indicator PIN's, or maybe use different MA to create the delay...
That problem happens for delay in Trend and Strength. It's normal because are lagging indicators and SnR is PA indicator. You can't resolve that misleading between indicators even you low TFs. The approach is other different. Protect entries in consolidation area waiting new trend begins. For that I'm testing fibo levels around SnR. If you create artificial neutral zone while leggings indicators syncs with SnR you will resolve the transition problem. And that is I will try explain in next chapters. Different approaches and how will work for compare it and see if one resolve the issue.
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  • #2,894
  • May 26, 2016 5:03am May 26, 2016 5:03am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Is only Trend indicator in one pair. Not more indicators involved. I use a modified version for only show signal at x bars from slope change. This resolve the problem happens with signals in extremes using MAs
That is exactly what I was talking about above, but using it to help when mixing.
If we mixing the indi's you could even keep the signal active for x bars, which would then lead the signals to overlap to enter or exit the trades.
  • #2,895
  • May 26, 2016 5:06am May 26, 2016 5:06am
Quoting SpencerBizze
{quote} That is exactly what I was talking about above, but using it to help when mixing. If we mixing the indi's you could even keep the signal active for x bars, which would then lead the signals to overlap to enter or exit the trades.
The problem was I made a lot of tools in less 3 months and it's impossible have allowed features need it finished. Not it's when image starting to analyze the problems and the solutions
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  • #2,896
  • May 26, 2016 5:06am May 26, 2016 5:06am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Is only Trend indicator in one pair. Not more indicators involved. I use a modified version for only show signal at x bars from slope change. This resolve the problem happens with signals in extremes using MAs {quote} That problem happens for delay in Trend and Strength. It's normal because are lagging indicators and SnR is PA indicator. You can't resolve that misleading between indicators even you low TFs. The approach is other different. Protect entries in consolidation area waiting new trend begins. For that I'm testing fibo levels around...
Hmm, I never thought of using different levels in the SnR to adjust it to give an earlier or later signal.
I will look at that.

Making the PIN from the Indi stay active for x bars could work, just not sure what effect it would have live.
  • #2,897
  • May 26, 2016 5:10am May 26, 2016 5:10am
Quoting SpencerBizze
{quote} Hmm, I never thought of using different levels in the SnR to adjust it to give an earlier or later signal. I will look at that. Making the PIN from the Indi stay active for x bars could work, just not sure what effect it would have live.
Really fibo levels do that work. In PA indicators you want entry near the zone. Time in not important. Only SnR addition in this moment is define some areas around zone. But I didn't test yet. I want have study version finished first. It's better for analyze how works
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  • #2,898
  • May 26, 2016 7:57am May 26, 2016 7:57am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} Really fibo levels do that work. In PA indicators you want entry near the zone. Time in not important. Only SnR addition in this moment is define some areas around zone. But I didn't test yet. I want have study version finished first. It's better for analyze how works
Cool, looking forward to it.
Thanks for your assistance this far. Still got lots to learn.
  • #2,899
  • May 28, 2016 1:13pm May 28, 2016 1:13pm
Hello!
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  • Edited 10:52am Jun 4, 2016 6:02am | Edited 10:52am
Simple things always work better. Trend indicator with a couple of filters ( May '16 )
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