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  • #561
  • May 9, 2016 6:28pm May 9, 2016 6:28pm
​General amendment at Post #1 to correct errors introduced inadvertently with the previous update
  • #562
  • May 9, 2016 11:06pm May 9, 2016 11:06pm
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} Thanks guys for sticking with me yesterday. I had 14 hours of flying and I was try to do support work during stop overs and kept on getting frustrated with internet drop outs half way through replies, so sorry if I was terse. I have checked the code and you are quite correct. It is only on Param2 which is the shift. I believe the major problem was associated with checking of open orders which I found by the input of vtt1 and hopefully it is fixed now. I will post a general update within 10 minutes.
Hi Dave:
I have also found my problem in the indicator , apparently the iCustom function only accept No. 0-7 as the number of output buffer for return value ,and mine was 8 and so i have changed it and now it is 7 , then i have checked the return value of icustom function and it was ok.
i have also changed the set file ,unfortunately the problem is still there ,the program still Buy even the slope is < 0 and sell when it is >0.
thank you for your response .
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  • #563
  • May 10, 2016 2:41am May 10, 2016 2:41am
Quoting parviz1953
{quote} Hi Dave: I have also found my problem in the indicator , apparently the iCustom function only accept No. 0-7 as the number of output buffer for return value ,and mine was 8 and so i have changed it and now it is 7 , then i have checked the return value of icustom function and it was ok. i have also changed the set file ,unfortunately the problem is still there ,the program still Buy even the slope is < 0 and sell when it is >0. thank you for your response . {file} {file}
​Are you sure you have the custom indicator conditions the correct way around. For condition2 you have a buy entry < 0 and for a sell entry > 0 which is contrary to what you describe you require, because you are in fact saying buy with a slope less than 0 and sell with a slope greater than 0.
  • #564
  • May 10, 2016 6:55am May 10, 2016 6:55am
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} ​Are you sure you have the custom indicator conditions the correct way around. For condition2 you have a buy entry < 0 and for a sell entry > 0 which is contrary to what you describe you require, because you are in fact saying buy with a slope less than 0 and sell with a slope greater than 0.
Thank you Dave: You are absolutly right .
Yesterday i was so preoccupied with finding the bug in indicator , that i missed this error .thanks again.
it is working now...
  • #565
  • May 10, 2016 4:51pm May 10, 2016 4:51pm
Dear dave :
Would you please have a look on this set too, CCI in buy and exit entry condition NO.3 , if put it to False operate ,with no problem , but when they are put to True , it does not take long position ...?!
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  • #566
  • May 10, 2016 5:30pm May 10, 2016 5:30pm
Quoting parviz1953
Dear dave : Would you please have a look on this set too, CCI in buy and exit entry condition NO.3 , if put it to False operate ,with no problem , but when they are put to True , it does not take long position ...?! {file} {image} {image}
​You have the CCI conditions the wrong way around. CCI crosses above -100 should be the Buy condition and CCI crosses below 100 should be the Sell condition.
  • #567
  • May 10, 2016 6:34pm May 10, 2016 6:34pm
Quoting Dave_C
{quote}​You have the CCI conditions the wrong way around. CCI crosses above -100 should be the Buy condition and CCI crosses below 100 should be the Sell condition.
Good Morning Dave :
I have changed it , this time does't take short position....!
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  • #568
  • May 10, 2016 7:05pm May 10, 2016 7:05pm
Quoting parviz1953
{quote} Good Morning Dave : I have changed it , this time doesn't take short position....! {image}
I ran a back test with the amendment I sent you and it did produce a short position which is enclosed. Also you have an inconsistency with your exit positions which is highlighted in the second diagram.
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  • #569
  • Edited 9:14pm May 10, 2016 8:05pm | Edited 9:14pm
Quoting Dave_C
{quote}I ran a back test with the amendment I sent you and it did produce a short position which is enclosed. Also you have an inconsistency with your exit positions which is highlighted in the second diagram. {image} {image}
The following is interpretation of CCI signal as i found : so if I am right for buy it should be >100 and for sell <-100.
and i have not seen the amendment...:
"
Interpretation
CCI measures the difference between a security's price change and its average price change. High positive readings indicate that prices are well above their average, which is a show of strength. Low negative readings indicate that prices are well below their average, which is a show of weakness.
The Commodity Channel Index (CCI) can be used as either a coincident or leading indicator. As a coincident indicator, surges above +100 reflect strong price action that can signal the start of an uptrend. Plunges below -100 reflect weak price action that can signal the start of a downtrend.
As a leading indicator, chartists can look for overbought or oversold conditions that may foreshadow a mean reversion. Similarly, bullish and bearish divergences can be use to detect early momentum shifts and anticipate trend reversals."
And would you please elaborate a little more on the difference between crosses above or below and the grater than and less than operators.
and this is the correct setting:according to above saying
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  • #570
  • May 10, 2016 9:16pm May 10, 2016 9:16pm
Quoting parviz1953
{quote} The following is interpretation of CCI signal as i found : so if I am right for buy it should be >100 and for sell <-100. and i have not seen the amendment...: " Interpretation CCI measures the difference between a security's price change and its average price change. High positive readings indicate that prices are well above their average, which is a show of strength. Low negative readings indicate that prices are well below their average, which is a show of weakness. The Commodity Channel Index (CCI) can be used as either a coincident...
But logically when there is overbought sell position should be taken and vice versa , so i changed it again and look at the result now :
and the correct setting is here for those interested to use :
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  • #571
  • Edited May 11, 2016 3:45am May 10, 2016 10:04pm | Edited May 11, 2016 3:45am
Quoting parviz1953
{quote} But logically when there is overbought sell position should be taken and vice versa , so i changed it again and look at the result now : and the correct setting is here for those interested to use : {image} {image} {file}
You should be using "crosses above -100" instead of "less than 100" for your Buy condition and "crosses below 100" instead of "greater than 100" for a Sell condition because your settings allow for no indication of price movement.

I draw your attention to the following excerpt from your quote. "Plunges below -100 reflect weak price action that can signal the start of a downtrend". Your solution sets yourself up for that scenario.

I don't agree with an overuse of greater than or less than. These conditions are usually reserved for confirmation rather than triggers for trades. You should be using crosses above or below. At the moment you have no trade triggers only a set of confirmations and as a result, a trade could be opened even if the price is moving away from the desired direction.

I'm sure you know by now of my own thoughts of overtrading with technicals.
  • #572
  • Edited 6:40am May 11, 2016 6:25am | Edited 6:40am
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} You should be using "crosses above -100" instead of "less than 100" for your Buy condition and "crosses below 100" instead of "greater than 100" for a Sell condition because your settings allow for no indication of price movement. I draw your attention to the following excerpt from your quote. "Plunges below -100 reflect weak price action that can signal the start of a downtrend". Your solution sets yourself up for that scenario. I don't agree with an overuse of greater than or less than. These conditions are usually reserved for confirmation...
But , if i use CROSS ABOVE , doesn't it mean and imply the whole time that the price is above -100 and still did not reached it ?? , and not the rebound back from the values below -100 ??!!
You know it totally depend that how you did implemented the concept of cross above and below logic in your code then.dose it check that it has already passed -100 and now coming above it ...? and in contrary "less than -100" , means the whole time that the condition is true , would be a good time to buy if the other conditions are satisfied ...?!
  • #573
  • Edited 8:25pm May 11, 2016 5:19pm | Edited 8:25pm
Quoting parviz1953
{quote} But , if i use CROSS ABOVE , doesn't it mean and imply the whole time that the price is above -100 and still did not reached it ?? , and not the rebound back from the values below -100 ??!! You know it totally depend that how you did implemented the concept of cross above and below logic in your code then.dose it check that it has already passed -100 and now coming above it ...? and in contrary "less than -100" , means the whole time that the condition is true , would be a good time to buy if the other conditions are satisfied ...?!
The logic is very simple -

"greater than" and "less than" only considers the position at the close of the previous bar. There is no "whole time" determination.

"crosses above " or "crosses below" considers the previous bar and the bar before that giving a two point view of position and movement.
  • #574
  • May 13, 2016 8:39am May 13, 2016 8:39am
Hi Dave, fantastic work you have here. how do I go about getting the Companion Program?
  • #575
  • May 13, 2016 12:58pm May 13, 2016 12:58pm
Hi Dave, hope all is going well for you.

Could you point me to the correct NLD set file for Agility.

Cheers

Alan
  • #576
  • May 13, 2016 1:04pm May 13, 2016 1:04pm
Quoting fire680
Hi Dave, fantastic work you have here. how do I go about getting the Companion Program?
Hi fire

Just select read/write Inputs Tab and then Read or Write Set file. This will take you the subscription page, following your subscription a new page will take you to a Download for 'Agility Trader Full'

Well worth it.

Enjoy

Alan
  • #577
  • May 13, 2016 2:38pm May 13, 2016 2:38pm
Thank You saintalan for your help.
  • #578
  • May 13, 2016 2:52pm May 13, 2016 2:52pm
Quoting saintalan
Hi Dave, hope all is going well for you. Could you point me to the correct NLD set file for Agility. Cheers Alan
Hi Saintalan,

A sample NLD file (and some others are) contained in the Agility trader zip file. That's probably you cleanest starting point.

Cheers

Mark
  • #579
  • May 13, 2016 3:14pm May 13, 2016 3:14pm
Quoting modo7777
{quote} Hi Saintalan, A sample NLD file (and some others are) contained in the Agility trader zip file. That's probably you cleanest starting point. Cheers Mark
Hi Mark, was hoping you might reply as I see you are the only one posting about it

Will try that one again, I am also getting a bit confused over the Decimal issue. Does it apply just to any Custom Indi and does it apply to any Nominted Value Input?

Many Thanks

Alan
  • #580
  • Edited 4:46pm May 13, 2016 4:05pm | Edited 4:46pm
Quoting saintalan
{quote} Hi Mark, was hoping you might reply as I see you are the only one posting about it Will try that one again, I am also getting a bit confused over the Decimal issue. Does it apply just to any Custom Indi and does it apply to any Nominted Value Input? Many Thanks Alan
I'm rather pleased you have raised the decimal issue. One of the constraints in the overall design within MT4 was that the one size fits all concept was a choice between making all the inputs with a decimal value capability or dropping the decimal point for simplicity. I could go back and change all the inputs to text and then convert them to values but this is a huge job given over 360 inputs but considering that this is evolving into something much more versatile outside MT4, it is not worth the effort at this stage.

This meant that I have had to make an allowance in code where some inputs needed to be decimal point values, so what you have is a compromise where for example I have had to allow for decimal points in User Indicator values which may need decimal points, so everything there has to be multiplied by 10. It is very clearly documented in the PDF as to which inputs are affected. As everything will eventually move to the Agility Heatmap concept which is outside of MT4, this problem will then be removed.
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