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  • #2,321
  • Apr 8, 2016 10:33am Apr 8, 2016 10:33am
Quoting Matraguna
{quote} I first started with 30 gap (3 pip) and after it has done 50% growth i decided to change to 100 gap (10 pip). Those orders have been open for 9 days but taking that the DD was nowhere near risky i have not closed them when i changed the settings and left them for the EA to close them since magic number was not changed. Eu is slightly in uptrend but does not seem to want to break the high and if they will become toxic than i will close the ones open on 3pip settings. I do not see the 6 positions from same price
Profit 10 ?
  • #2,322
  • Apr 8, 2016 10:37am Apr 8, 2016 10:37am
Quoting Matraguna
{quote} I first started with 30 gap (3 pip) and after it has done 50% growth i decided to change to 100 gap (10 pip). Those orders have been open for 9 days but taking that the DD was nowhere near risky i have not closed them when i changed the settings and left them for the EA to close them since magic number was not changed. Eu is slightly in uptrend but does not seem to want to break the high and if they will become toxic than i will close the ones open on 3pip settings. I do not see the 6 positions from same price
thx for explanation.
though still not get why 6 similar priced order opened, that isn't dependent on grid size.

in my opinion it is a bit forfeits test results if settings are changed during the test, but everyone has its own ways to handle forward tests.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #2,323
  • Apr 8, 2016 10:59am Apr 8, 2016 10:59am
Good morning friends,,, I would just leave my collaboration.

leaving the SET

Colouqei to test 03 pairs together

EURUSD, GBPUSD, EURGBP

VERY GOOD RESULTS
ACCOUNT OPENING OF 990 DOLLARS
AT THIS TIME WITH 1221 DOLLARS AND A FLOATING POSITIVE (+ 52 DOLLARS)

KNOW LOT BUT PUT 0.10 CAN CHANGE FOR 0.01 AND PUTTING tP 0.30

FLOATING DOWN THE TIME

A BIG HUG ATODOS AND A HAPPY WEEKEND
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  • #2,324
  • Apr 8, 2016 11:24am Apr 8, 2016 11:24am
Using lot 0,01 recommended target to 10 or a 1 ?

thanks.
  • #2,325
  • Apr 8, 2016 11:29am Apr 8, 2016 11:29am
Quoting enzoforex
Using lot 0,01 recommended target to 10 or a 1 ? thanks.
1-2 MAX! Or else your profit trades won't close ever with 10.. I even use 5 for 0.1 lot.
  • #2,326
  • Apr 8, 2016 11:32am Apr 8, 2016 11:32am
Quoting Carneiro
VERY GOOD RESULTS ACCOUNT OPENING OF 990 DOLLARS AT THIS TIME WITH 1221 DOLLARS AND A FLOATING POSITIVE (+ 52 DOLLARS) {image} {image}
Can you eleborate more about DD? If you trading with 0.1 lot and just $1000 Account what you think DD is?

I bet 15-20%? MAX?
  • #2,327
  • Apr 8, 2016 12:55pm Apr 8, 2016 12:55pm
Quoting anazri
{quote} Please give the details also, which pair, lot size, close profit etc. thanks
I am trying to create Trade Explorer for account i used for testing this strategy. FF is giving a strange error message "You already have a trade explorer for this brokerage account." I am still banging my head with the wall.
Forex; the game of movements not the game of candles.
  • #2,328
  • Apr 8, 2016 1:00pm Apr 8, 2016 1:00pm
I have tested the Zigler 1.1 many times over and over and over again.

The best so far is for GBPAUD.
It isn't a quick rich thing but if you have an account with $400 you can almost double it in 4 months.

Personally I don't like metatrader. The reason is that every time you restart it and run the exact the same test you get different results.
I guess this is why it is free after all. To put us in the wrong direction during backtesting.

Anyway, here is the report run on m1 timeframe several times after closing and opening MT4.
VPS is ready and configured. will start to run this one live on Monday.

MT4 report:
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Zigler v1.1 setting on GBPAUD.
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I would like to ask others friendly to do the same test to compare.
Starting jan 1 2016 until the 8th of April 2016 with exact the same amount deposit and exact the same setting and post the report here please.

Thanks
  • #2,329
  • Apr 8, 2016 1:28pm Apr 8, 2016 1:28pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Can you eleborate more about DD? If you trading with 0.1 lot and just $1000 Account what you think DD is? I bet 15-20%? MAX?
I put lot 0.10 just to test, because now I have started testing in an account with $ 1146,98 with lot 0.01 with minimal profit close 0.30

just wish it had a stop and general TP,,, when for example come in this case the negative 10 dollars or 10 dollars plus

I intend to 2% per day
  • #2,330
  • Apr 8, 2016 1:31pm Apr 8, 2016 1:31pm
Quoting attilafx
I have tested the Zigler 1.1 many times over and over and over again. The best so far is for GBPAUD. It isn't a quick rich thing but if you have an account with $400 you can almost double it in 4 months. Personally I don't like metatrader. The reason is that every time you restart it and run the exact the same test you get different results. I guess this is why it is free after all. To put us in the wrong direction during backtesting. Anyway, here is the report run on m1 timeframe several times after closing and opening MT4. VPS is ready and configured....
The reason why you get different results could be that you leave the spread on the strategy tester set as 'current' which means if you did a backtest when the spread was 10 points, and you do another test a bit later with a spread of 12 you will not get the same result, you can set a fixed spread in there, like if you have an average of 10 to 12, you put 11 for example.
  • #2,331
  • Apr 8, 2016 1:46pm Apr 8, 2016 1:46pm
Quoting oneffone
{quote} broker's spread is very good .it looks lower than 5 point.
Oneffone: testing so far resulted in more DD than profit.

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But it looks very promising, I hope that you continue to develop the EA. I'll be waiting for next version to test!
  • #2,332
  • Edited 2:04pm Apr 8, 2016 1:49pm | Edited 2:04pm
Quoting attilafx
I have tested the Zigler 1.1 many times over and over and over again. The best so far is for GBPAUD. It isn't a quick rich thing but if you have an account with $400 you can almost double it in 4 months. Personally I don't like metatrader. The reason is that every time you restart it and run the exact the same test you get different results. I guess this is why it is free after all. To put us in the wrong direction during backtesting. Anyway, here is the report run on m1 timeframe several times after closing and opening MT4. VPS is ready and configured....
-80% Relative Drawdown is pretty "steep"... I wonder if anyone could watch it on a live account...

Most traders run for the door seeing -30% DD on a live account. On paper and in demo mode it is "tolerable", but when one is looking into the "Abyss" after losing 30% of a REAL account, it is a completely different FEELING.
  • #2,333
  • Apr 8, 2016 2:02pm Apr 8, 2016 2:02pm
Quoting sbenichou1
{quote} the Parker is quite since 3 days, I mean that in case of a trend we could be killed also with brokerage fees.Any idea to detect the very beginning of a quite market to launch the ea on it?
Then you need to test in Tokyo+3 till Frankfurt Open. And then in between London Close and Tokyo open. On Fridays, from Tokyo+3 to NY Open and When London Close on Friday and shut it down it 2 hours before weekly market close. Also avoid trading if any news appearing during these timings. Hopefully, you will get the results.
Forex; the game of movements not the game of candles.
  • #2,334
  • Apr 8, 2016 3:36pm Apr 8, 2016 3:36pm
Quoting MasterGuru
{quote} -80% Relative Drawdown is pretty "steep"... I wonder if anyone could watch it on a live account... Most traders run for the door seeing -30% DD on a live account. On paper and in demo mode it is "tolerable", but when one is looking into the "Abyss" after losing 30% of a REAL account, it is a completely different FEELING.
well said!
2 things jumps out from the test:
profit factor is very low, only 1.14
and
net profit of the test is less than either max or relative drawdown.

I would think instead of running backtests it would be wise to go on with more forward testing....I would definitely not dare to go trade live based on those tests.

as a side note:
instead of waiting 4 months, my posted forward test for example produced similar gains with about 1/4th the max dd...in 7 trading days.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #2,335
  • Apr 8, 2016 3:55pm Apr 8, 2016 3:55pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} well said! 2 things jumps out from the test: profit factor is very low, only 1.14 and net profit of the test is less than either max or relative drawdown. I would think instead of running backtests it would be wise to go on with more forward testing....I would definitely not dare to go trade live based on those tests. as a side note: instead of waiting 4 months, my posted forward test for example produced similar gains with about 1/4th the max dd...in 7 trading days.

This is what I get with your setting
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  • #2,336
  • Edited 4:12pm Apr 8, 2016 3:59pm | Edited 4:12pm
1 more week of testing and I'm going life, check it out...

I think the most advantage of multi pair is pretty neutral picture for the Balance

Here is the Just 2 pair of 7 keep on working, look at the Lock it profit...

Amazingly DD is very low or most of the times system actually running in Surplus..

Need some bizarre manipulation to check out possible outcomes, but I'd like to throw

1k$ on it while it's hot... Anybody can recommend brokers accepting US clowns covered by Obama Care?



Thanks...

P.S. I remember atcbrokers.com was able to avoid stupid US rules and

allow to sell and buy same pair all the time.. And they are also ECN feed, with very low spread...

Not sure if this valid now? I hope it is.. Anybody can confirm?
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  • #2,337
  • Apr 8, 2016 4:05pm Apr 8, 2016 4:05pm
Quoting attilafx
{quote} This is what I get with your setting{image} {image}.
ONLY that we use different EA versions.
+ I don't backtested the posted results, but pure forward test.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #2,338
  • Apr 8, 2016 4:18pm Apr 8, 2016 4:18pm
Quoting attilafx
{quote} This is what I get with your setting{image} {image}.
Yeah, I used to drink 6 bottles of beer and half bottle of Vodka, but now I'm drinking Coffee

and sometimes cognac and tea, can you analyze how much and What I going to drink Tomorrow?

Yeah, please do backtest on that, I'd like to know what the f*ck I'm up to, cause I have no clue myself... Thanks
  • #2,339
  • Apr 8, 2016 5:05pm Apr 8, 2016 5:05pm
Haha so much truth zigler ! The backtest is just a POC (Proof Of Concept)...

@zigler: as a french citizen i don't have your FIFO regulation... but i suggest you to check FXCM (real ECN etc...). I hope this broker allow you to Sell and Buy the same pairs...


Best regards,
JB
  • #2,340
  • Apr 8, 2016 5:13pm Apr 8, 2016 5:13pm
I have read all thread with my poor english. It took a long time but i did Thank you very much Mr. Remon, Voldemar227, abokwaik and other developers. These are my results.

remon78eg 30-03-2016 , 1000 $ account demo, only EURUSD, fix lot 0.01 , Trade trend: On , Step Order: 10 (1 pip) , Profit close: 3 $ , Start: 04 April Monday 06:00 GMT , it worked full time until weekend , result says DD is %10 but i saw -370$ most
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remon78eg 2 Part 1-fixlot , EURUSD, 1 chart buy and 1 chart sell , fixlot 0.01 , Step order:10 (1pip) , Profit close: 1 $ , Start: 30 March 09:30 GMT , it worked full time until now too, DD was less than first result but also TP
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APG_04 , EURUSD, lot size:0.01 , step size: 10 (1pip) , Start: 5 April 06:00 GMT until now (full time), DD was sometimes little but sometimes near result 2 ( i can't get it)
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So my favorite is is remon78eg 30-03-2016, it makes money, survive 300-400 pips? I don't know. This week was just 100 pips price change. may be i will try live on a cent account, Can you please suggest one? There is no cent account in my country. And leverage is 1:50 for classic accounts, it sucks. Sorry for my bad english.
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