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  • #2,161
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:27pm Apr 6, 2016 3:27pm
Quoting bomax2000
In my opinion, I cannot see how buying and selling the same currency pair will ever be profitable in the long run... BUT, I love being here to perhaps be persuaded
A little different version than released here, but the value of the dual directions can be a decent profitable safety Nedge.

See -> HERE

Settings are:
1 pip Renko Chart
$1 minimum profit value.
Directionally and trigger biased.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #2,162
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:33pm Apr 6, 2016 3:33pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} A little different version than released here
Which one you are talking about?
  • #2,163
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:44pm Apr 6, 2016 3:44pm
Damn, I HATE Forex... Every Pro trader will tell you that Currencies is the WORSE financial

instrument you can possibly Trade.. Currencies is the Last Sh*T you want to trade. All those Broken/torn Charts.. It's like Predict where poisoned Fly will

land next time.. Commodities, Stock Indexes are much safer to trade overall, Currencies are "TOXIC" by default..

Since 2007 I didn't find or know of ANY EA that's ever worked... You need 10's of programmers which are ready 24/7 tune the Code

according to the Market conditions constantly... I do believe that GRID is the best Way to approach this Sucker!

Nobody can predict Price Action, that's why we need to buy and sell everything yeah, today it's going up, tomorrow down..
  • #2,164
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:45pm Apr 6, 2016 3:45pm
@Magix
YES, that is why it is necessary to perform these functions on "only correlated/uncorrelated currency pairs" instead of ONE currency pair. The ONLY way that you could be profitable in the long run would be to cover the COMPLETE range of the pair's history. Forget about pairs that are coupled with GBP, EUR or in some instances CHF. Making money is MORE than increasing your balance, your equity has to increase or you aren't really making a dime!
  • #2,165
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:48pm Apr 6, 2016 3:48pm
@Zigler
Mate, I truly laid out for you a way to make this work... perhaps you weren't listening.
  • #2,166
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:50pm Apr 6, 2016 3:50pm
Quoting bomax2000
@Zigler Mate, I truly laid out for you a way to make this work... perhaps you weren't listening.
yeah sure in my 50+ it's my first day on the job and I know nothing, like the first day, 20 years ago..

Besides talking about correlations, using Grid it's only partially possible.. You have to open Correlated trades at the same

LOT volume which is impossible in what we are doing... If you do Buy 2 Pairs Sell one that should be exactly 1 lot each or 0.01 lot each..

What you are doing still make sense only partially.. If you got open on 1 pair 2 lots and on correlated pair only 0.5 lot due to the price Action,

then you have no correlation for that matter... And After All I WAS the FIRST GUY here on the thread who ever talk about trading correlated

Pairs with this strategy, You can Re-read thee thread and find out..
  • #2,167
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:51pm Apr 6, 2016 3:51pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Which one you are talking about?
Mine.



Revised version of the Latest release by Voldemar.

Shitty thing...It wouldn't make sense to release it here, because it only vaguely resembles the Grid idea...and it's not mine to release in my own room...

Will see how it works out for the week and then add it to the heap.
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  • #2,168
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:52pm Apr 6, 2016 3:52pm
Quoting bomax2000
@Magix YES, that is why it is necessary to perform these functions on "only correlated/uncorrelated currency pairs" instead of ONE currency pair. The ONLY way that you could be profitable in the long run would be to cover the COMPLETE range of the pair's history. Forget about pairs that are coupled with GBP, EUR or in some instances CHF. Making money is MORE than increasing your balance, your equity has to increase or you aren't really making a dime!

This is true.

At the same time, I can choose to unload either top or bottom side nedge based on bias and allow a restart to take place.

Notice both equity and balance are up.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #2,169
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:55pm Apr 6, 2016 3:55pm
@Zigler
... and yet you say things like this. Experience has taught you nothing then.

Quoting zigler
Damn, I HATE Forex... Every Pro trader will tell you that Currencies is the WORSE financial instrument you can possibly Trade.. Currencies is the Last Sh*T you want to trade. All those Broken/torn Charts.. It's like Predict where poisoned Fly will land next time.. Commodities, Stock Indexes are much safer to trade overall, Currencies are "TOXIC" by default.. Since 2007 I didn't find or know of ANY EA that's ever worked... You need 10's of programmers which are ready 24/7 tune the Code according to the Market conditions constantly... I do believe...
  • #2,170
  • Apr 6, 2016 3:58pm Apr 6, 2016 3:58pm
@Zigler
We will either initially win OR slowly grow neutral where we will win later... still using the concept of this method.
  • #2,171
  • Apr 6, 2016 4:02pm Apr 6, 2016 4:02pm
Quoting remon78eg
{quote} Good, I, Also Found That I Can Change The Options Of The EA, To Help Get Out From Toxic Trades, I Did It Manually And Success, But I Will Try To Did It Automatically.

Hi Remon@ I just tried your simulator and it is really impressive... you are really a genius... I think there is a bug in it...
when you start the trading in simulator, try the below steps....

1. press down one step (sell order 1 will be placed)
2. press up one step (no orders will be placed now)
3. press up one step (buy will be placed at the previous level and price is still at the previous level) - Is this correct? I'm not sure because here each movement is considered as a one level, but in reality, if we set 10 pips as level, then this might not happen i guess but you can confirm it...

Overall, this is a wonderful strategy and i was waiting for this idea to be converted into EA...(Steve is doing it at the moment)..
  • #2,172
  • Apr 6, 2016 4:09pm Apr 6, 2016 4:09pm
Quoting bomax2000
@Zigler ... and yet you say things like this. Experience has taught you nothing then. {quote}
Yes that's why 95% is losing money and that's why you see gazillion people watching this thread, this has nothing to do

with experience, this sh*t is unpredictable, in terms of price action, simple as that..
  • #2,173
  • Apr 6, 2016 4:11pm Apr 6, 2016 4:11pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Yes that's why 95% is losing money and that's why you see gazillion people watching this thread, this has nothing to do with experience, this sh*t is unpredictable, in terms of price action, simple as that..
Having a tough day dude?
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #2,174
  • Apr 6, 2016 4:16pm Apr 6, 2016 4:16pm
@Zigler and Magix
Just check out what I am saying. The good thing about this method instead is that you have heaps of opportunities to close the trades in profit if you get sick of seeing price bounce around aimlessly. If you happen to get stuck... the rules of the system are still in place to eventually get you out of strife.
  • #2,175
  • Apr 6, 2016 4:22pm Apr 6, 2016 4:22pm
So, Magix? Are you saying that YOU have had this #2 strategy work for you or are you simply speaking hypothetically?
  • #2,176
  • Apr 6, 2016 4:31pm Apr 6, 2016 4:31pm
Quoting bomax2000
So, Magix? Are you saying that YOU have had this #2 strategy work for you or are you simply speaking hypothetically?

All honesty...

I think that the thread op is a total moron, have never watched either of his videos and get a little aggravated because his head is so far up his own ass he believes that he needs to post everything in large bold font.

I understand the idea, am not exactly sure I could code the methodology any better than what has been provided by voldemar and abowaik, but at the same time, I am not 100% sold on the idea.

IF you can trade directionally and trend biased and if you can restrict your triggering based on more than a static grid and if you understand a little about trends and session movements, you can increase the odds of success. This however doesn't seem to be the overall direction this thread is headed.

That's about all I have to say about that.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #2,177
  • Apr 6, 2016 4:38pm Apr 6, 2016 4:38pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Having a tough day dude?
Heh.. Could be better, back to square one
  • #2,178
  • Apr 6, 2016 4:57pm Apr 6, 2016 4:57pm
Almost all tools have good days and tough days too. The key is in how to read the market and how you put it to use. Have made 43 bucks with AUDUSD, 34 with AUDCAD and minus 5 on AUDNZD. I no more consider EURGBP a ranging and low volatility instrument. The paradigm is shifting in EUR and GBP.

No matter, Let us proceed with love and peace. A trader never fall into personal issues.

Great work remon, abuwaik, voldemar, MasterGuru , keyduck and Magix.

Dear Remon, Please don't judge someone from profile photo. Please give him the space whatever photo he likes to use. I was also having same feelings like Magix on your comment of boring and each week a new strategy. But i do value your work. Please take care of your health. Do invest your time in entertainment activities. This is more important to achieve something.
Forex; the game of movements not the game of candles.
  • #2,179
  • Apr 6, 2016 5:22pm Apr 6, 2016 5:22pm
Quoting Sathis
{quote} Thanks Marios, Pls can you suggest the indicatior setting in mT4 based on your default setting ..would like to view the MA waves in MT4 the way you have shown in your earlier screenshot pls.. Sathish
use The MT4 Moving Average indicator like this:

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Greetings, Mario
  • #2,180
  • Edited 6:20pm Apr 6, 2016 6:09pm | Edited 6:20pm
Quoting Simihouse
Hello to all the friends here and a special thanks to Remon for the genial idea of accumulative trading. I read all the thread and I checked all the EAs. So I can say that the EA more close to the original strategy (Method 1) is (as usual) the EA of Master Hopwood, that, for some strange reason, nobody considered so far. And indeed is also the only EA with a good BT. Also if soon or late it blow up any account the EA can stand long enough to provide a very good gain, just withdraw regularly and leave a fix deposit...much better of many grid and...
Actually, you are wrong about this. I have spotted bugs on this EA from the beginning. When I pointed them out in his thread for R&R, my post was deleted. Also, I have got no idea why you would give someone such a title "Master"? C'MON!

I've looked at your results graph and notice some very serious DD spikes. I have made part 1 EA with my settings much better than this.

Anyway just to end, Steve has decided to give up on making any other improvements of fixes of his version of EA for this as he doesn't understand the strategy and thinks that his main focus should be on his overly boasted HGBnGrid EA which most people in PMs will admit to the lack of success to it as opposed to the overhyped pips people post in the thread.

Errrrr... I am holding myself back on this as I just finished work and I would just have another negative ramble and rant which I am not prepared to do.

Daniel
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