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  • #1,921
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:12pm Apr 4, 2016 7:12pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Bro no need for pending.. But I guess it doesn't matter... 10 pips is TOO wide... I was thinking about 5 pips MAX... To DROP EA on any price action and any MOVE and DIRECTION will cause TP hit Immediately... But Thank you VERY much friend.. I'll Run test tomorrow...
if i dont use pending order, then in other option for grid it takes trades on same levels. which is trouble. But i think it does exactly what u want.U can change lot size and grid size and sum of profits.
And REMON IAM SORRY FOR POSTING THIS EA WITHOUT UR PERMISSION. but iam sure u will wellcome it
  • #1,922
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:22pm Apr 4, 2016 7:22pm
Quoting skinner36
@Zigler. You are coming across in a very aggressive and condemning manner. People are just bouncing ideas around. Grab yourself a cup of tea or coffee, put your feet up and relax. Cheers, John
Yeah, sorry, Obviously I'm not trying to make stuff to my own good either...
I just know it's going to work.. And if EA would be modified by someone, this going to
be for everyone advantage.. Besides, I Think we are talking about just modifying existing EA..
Making another Version.. I have a vision, that it should work...
Please gimme a break, would you? thanks!
  • #1,923
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:25pm Apr 4, 2016 7:25pm
@Zigler

No problem at all
  • #1,924
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:28pm Apr 4, 2016 7:28pm
Quoting JaggWaa
{quote} if i dont use pending order, then in other option for grid it takes trades on same levels. which is trouble. But i think it does exactly what u want.U can change lot size and grid size and sum of profits. And REMON IAM SORRY FOR POSTING THIS EA WITHOUT UR PERMISSION. but iam sure u will wellcome it
Man, Thank you very much... I will run a test and check behavior... Main Point there is to CLOSE ALL when EQUITY hit $$$ (defined) profit

"by design" small ... Cause it should act like Scalper...
  • #1,925
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:35pm Apr 4, 2016 7:35pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Yeah, sorry, Obviously I'm not trying to make stuff to my own good either... I just know it's going to work.. And if EA would be modified by someone, this going to be for everyone advantage.. Besides, I Think we are talking about just modifying existing EA.. Making another Version.. I have a vision, that it should work... Please gimme a break, would you? thanks!

The problem I found....correct me if I don't have your idea right. Is, say 4 pip orders....... Start point of say 00........You get 2 buys open @ 04 and 08......Then after opening the buy at 08 it turns.......Goes down you get sells at 96, 92, 88, 84.......At this point the buys are negative. -24 and -20.......Profit from sells is only is only 24 in total......so you can see it need a good move to win.......Maybe I have it wrongP
  • #1,926
  • Apr 4, 2016 8:14pm Apr 4, 2016 8:14pm
Quoting JaggWaa
OK, here we go. What it does> when atached, places 50 buy and 50sell pending orders above and below the current price. in seetings, first option is grid size 10 pips or whatever u want, after that is lot size. (which is called volume in settings) for buys Then same settings for sell pending ordersand second last is total profit in $$$ Hope it satisfies u {file}
I'm doing some tests !! .. in a real account the problem would be the number of orders? what would be the maximum?


thanks..
  • #1,927
  • Apr 4, 2016 9:37pm Apr 4, 2016 9:37pm
Quoting Romax
{quote} I'm doing some tests !! .. in a real account the problem would be the number of orders? what would be the maximum? thanks..
Please be aware that amount of drawn can be so big. it can go upto -2000$ or more . Max no of trades at any given time are 100, 50 buys 50 sells. Plz Plz Pl demo it backtest it before u go real.
  • #1,928
  • Apr 4, 2016 9:42pm Apr 4, 2016 9:42pm
Backtesting APG_04 since 1 jan 2010 for gu until current date, been running it for about 11 hours 1 jan 2010 to 21 april 2011 the account grew from 10k to 84k using 0.1 lot size (100 grid size) so far, which looks promising. Shall continue to run it until the whole thing is finished then post the result
  • #1,929
  • Apr 4, 2016 9:43pm Apr 4, 2016 9:43pm
Quoting JaggWaa
{quote} Please be aware that amount of drawn can be so big. it can go upto -2000$ or more . Max no of trades at any given time are 100, 50 buys 50 sells. Plz Plz Pl demo it backtest it before u go real.



yes .. do not worry !!.
I made up of five years .. with profit down to the extreme !!. it did not break !!..
  • #1,930
  • Apr 4, 2016 10:39pm Apr 4, 2016 10:39pm
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} I would be very careful of this version as it uses martingale strategy. It is high risk to blow your account. If you are using an EA that only does part 1, I would recommend Fix Lot Ant-Trend. But even better advice would be for you to switch to AGP 4.0
Thanks keydcuk, I 'll take your advice.
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  • #1,931
  • Apr 4, 2016 11:16pm Apr 4, 2016 11:16pm
Quoting remon78eg
I Found New Necessary Development To Improve This Strategy, To Be Useful And Collect Some Missed Profits In Trend Cases, {image} We Also Have To Close Profit Level When Price (Retrace Before Close The Most Loser Level), Close Only One Profit Level Every One Trace.
Hi Remon,

as this is my first post on this thread: thank you for your interesting idea.

In this case, an option could be the automatic shift of the roles between the supporting and demanding side. In this example, the buy trades +1$ to +6$ should be used, together with the shared profit basket (if filled), to kill the -32$ loss trade. This option is closer to the original part-2-rules and makes the grid indepenent from directions.

I'm about to finish my own EA, which is made according to this concept. I will share it here, if tests are promising.

Cheers, Oliver
  • #1,932
  • Edited 12:21am Apr 5, 2016 12:09am | Edited 12:21am
Reporting my part of APG_04 testing, result since yesterday.
Very low DD so far.... less $100. I want to see on big move.
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  • #1,933
  • Apr 5, 2016 12:16am Apr 5, 2016 12:16am
Quoting anazri
Reporting my part of APG_04 testing, result since yesterday. Very low DD so far.... less $100. I want to see on big move. {image}
what pair ? TF ? what is Your set please
  • #1,934
  • Apr 5, 2016 12:25am Apr 5, 2016 12:25am
Quoting mojepole
{quote} what pair ? TF ? what is Your set please
Please look at the SS above. I use GBPUSD, and I use M1.
Price is driving south now ...
I want to see this EA could make the capital survive after 4000-5000 (5 dec) pips move.
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  • #1,935
  • Apr 5, 2016 12:31am Apr 5, 2016 12:31am
Quoting anazri
{quote} Please look at the SS above. I use GBPUSD, and I use M1. Price is driving south now ... I want to see this EA could make the capital survive after 4000-5000 (5 dec) pips move.

thx but You use M30

regards
mojepole
  • #1,936
  • Apr 5, 2016 12:35am Apr 5, 2016 12:35am
Quoting mojepole
{quote} thx but You use M30 regards mojepole
that's only for SS. I think you can put on any TF. It's still the same. The action based on the price, not chart.
may other member could advice.
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  • #1,937
  • Apr 5, 2016 12:38am Apr 5, 2016 12:38am
Quoting anazri
{quote} that's only for SS. I think you can put on any TF. It's still the same. The action based on the price, not chart. may other member could advice.
Correct. APG is time frame independent.
No guts, no glory
  • #1,938
  • Apr 5, 2016 12:58am Apr 5, 2016 12:58am
Quoting anazri
Reporting my part of APG_04 testing, result since yesterday. Very low DD so far.... less $100. I want to see on big move. {image} {image}

Its not less draw down ..seems gained 18 $ but DD is 100$, am also facing the same issue with APG 04 gained 100 $ but DD is 300 $ , APG04 keep on adding the orders after profit taken but i suppose it forget to reduce the orders.
  • #1,939
  • Apr 5, 2016 1:04am Apr 5, 2016 1:04am
As per the original system, grid size should be 10 pips (100 points for 5-digits brokers).
Running with less than that is too risky imo.
In fact the larger the better depending on pair spread, and ADR.
No guts, no glory
  • #1,940
  • Apr 5, 2016 1:13am Apr 5, 2016 1:13am
Quoting zigler
{quote} Man, Thank you very much... I will run a test and check behavior... Main Point there is to CLOSE ALL when EQUITY hit $$$ (defined) profit "by design" small ... Cause it should act like Scalper...

I found it amusing how you guys try to convince each other.

The main point is this. You will need some good math to do this.
The reason is that at one point you want to close out all trades, and still end in profit.
It is not about the balance but about the Equity!

So if say EU is at 1.10 and you think it goes long, you buy 1 lot. with a target of 1.1150
But, on the other hand, if it goes short you need to hedge that position. You can do that from 1.0990 or 1.0950 it all depends on calculation.
But if you are going to sell from 1.0950 with a target of 1.0800 it doesn't make any sense to sell only 1 Lot against it. So you would need to open 1.4 Lot.
Then if 1.0800 is hit you can close all trades and still end up in profit. Simple math. But let's go further because we all know the market is made to drain money out of our pockets. So EU starts to go down to 1.0910 and reverses again up towards 1.1080.
Then we have 2 positions open already. 1 long from 1.10 what is in profit but we have also a 1.4 lot sell what is negative. Since the 1.4 is bigger than 1lot from 1.10 you had to hedge that again. So naturally you would have had to add another long from 1.10. In this case again 1 lot.

So, current stand.
2 lots long from 1.10 with a target of 1.1150
1.4 lot short from 1.0950 with a target of 1.08.

If market continues to 1.1150 you can close all positions and end up nice in profit.
If it goes short again, well then you need to hedge again from 1.0950.

But here comes the trick, we all know that market is ranging for 70% of the time. So every time if the market hits 1.10 or 1.0950 you need to add more lots. Because the third time it would hit 1.0950 with a target of 1.0800 then the third time you would need to sell like 1.9 lot or so. But this is all math and not my strongest point.
I know this will work but we need a good mathematician for this for calculating and somebody who can build an EA around this.

Anyway, this was a bit off but this is how it will work.
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