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  • #1,901
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:22pm Apr 4, 2016 6:22pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Not really. Just create BUY higher, SELL lower against ENTRY LEVEL.. I'm telling you it's going to work...! But with the tight Grid Spread and tight Equity Profit taken.. ANYBODY? Jees, Just Start Following the TREND !!! Buy Higher And SELL lower! Yeah, Sure Just keep damn Selling Uptrend and Buying downtrend and DD your Equity to ZERO.. Anybody capable of creating what I'm asking...? I guess I could pay someone, rather.. Thanks..
I am seriously not getting you. We don't know whether PA is going to be higher or lower. This is where it needs to be defined. You can't just say follow the trend. It is easy for human eyes to see what a trend is and we can all see where things retrace, but this is a computer program. You need to tell it what is a trend and what is a retrace. It will only know it is retracing once there is profit in the virtual basket. Then what? We can't predict PA. The EA needs to be told, more profit means more retrace. What then? When does retrace finish? When profit is of a less value than the previous measure. And? At what point do we use as a reference? The closest to where the EA knows PA which is at each individual grid entries.

Your proposition would only work in a timeframe environment. Swing highs and Swing lows, higher highs and lower lows... IT IS NOT AS EASY AS THAT. You would nearly need an Elliott Wave indicator to do the job and nobody has even come close to make one of those (that works properly)

OFF TO BED... might have a fresher mind when I wake up again.
  • #1,902
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:32pm Apr 4, 2016 6:32pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Not really. Just create BUY higher, SELL lower against ENTRY LEVEL.. I'm telling you it's going to work...! But with the tight Grid Spread and tight Equity Profit taken.. ANYBODY? Jees, Just Start Following the TREND !!! Buy Higher And SELL lower! Yeah, Sure Just keep damn Selling Uptrend and Buying downtrend and DD your Equity to ZERO.. Anybody capable of creating what I'm asking...? I guess I could pay someone, rather.. Thanks..
Yes This Is Another Option Will Be Add To The EA,
If Price Goes Up We Will Open Buy Instead Of Buy & Sell,
But I Sill Not Test It On Paper Yet (To Define The Needed Rules).
  • #1,903
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:32pm Apr 4, 2016 6:32pm
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} I am seriously not getting you. We don't know whether PA is going to be higher or lower.
Yeah, Dude, I showed you ones... Tell me again what you are Not GETTING???? It's all based on Price actions..

What Exactly you not getting??? Just f* open trades Buy and SELL until one Site will overwhelm the other...

The KEY here is Tight Grid spread/step and Tight Profit Taken.. GOT IT???
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  • #1,904
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:34pm Apr 4, 2016 6:34pm
A question for ALL you experienced EA users... what happens if your internet connection is lost OR your computer goes into hibernation mode while the EA employed? Is the EA working properly under these circumstances or does your computer have to be on and connected the entire time?
  • #1,905
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:43pm Apr 4, 2016 6:43pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Yeah, Dude, I showed you ones... Tell me again what you are Not GETTING???? It's all based on Price actions.. What Exactly you not getting??? {image}
When you point to a chart, it is easy to show something because the timeline and PA has been defined and you are showing this on something that has already happened.

Try showing me something on a live chart? You can't. It's a blank space into the future. So the future must become the present and the EA needs to be told what is going on. In any case, buying high and selling low is not what this strategy is about at the moment. Mr Remon wanted to finish this before we get into the next version of the strategy which IS to buy high and sell low.

TBH zigler. All I did was present an idea. You didn't need to snot all over it.

I don't want to get into some sort of aggressive debate. We are here to collaborate, not piss on each other.

I already lost my cool the other night and I sincerely am sorry for being a bit of a snot rag to other people with the way I commented the other day.

If my idea is poor, then it gets rejected, I am not here to get credit. I am here to collaborate to get the best system out there. We will achieve this, but lets not get into a mini war zone attacking other people's ideas, thoughts & questions.
  • #1,906
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:44pm Apr 4, 2016 6:44pm
Quoting bomax2000
A question for ALL you experienced EA users... what happens if your internet connection is lost OR your computer goes into hibernation mode while the EA employed? Is the EA working properly under these circumstances or does your computer have to be on and connected the entire time?
No, you screwed if your connection is lost.. But this is a 3-rd party problem... Look man if you have "profitable" EA

I'm sure you can find $20-50 for VPS (Virtual Private Server) hosting.. SO? Your question have no meat...

Relax, bob..
  • #1,907
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:45pm Apr 4, 2016 6:45pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Yeah, Dude, I showed you ones... Tell me again what you are Not GETTING???? It's all based on Price actions.. What Exactly you not getting??? {image}
Dear Zigler,
I totally aggre with your approach. In fact i tried it a couple years back. The problem with this type of trading is when price is in some kind of expanding triangle. And it never lets u come out of ur previous trades. Remember when u add positions on either side of your entry line, as soon as u add more, ur equity goes more and more in negative. Now iam not saying it doesnot work, but only in trending moves. I still remember a drawdown of around 10,000$(demo ofcourse) when i totally left this idea because it seemed so unreliable. Even if u have couple of trades stuck , u need big one sisded move. And it was not buying or selling on same levels. There was a guy names funyoo who coded that ea back in somewhere 2010.
  • #1,908
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:46pm Apr 4, 2016 6:46pm
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} When you point to a chart, it is easy to show something because the timeline and PA has been defined and you are showing this on something that has already happened. Try showing me something on a live chart? You can't.
Dude, I don't have to show you anything.. Did I asked you something? I ask Coders, If you cannot see what I see, F* you...

Got it? Keep looking.. It's not my problem...
  • #1,909
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:48pm Apr 4, 2016 6:48pm
Quoting JaggWaa
{quote} Dear Zigler, I totally aggre with your approach. In fact i tried it a couple years back. The problem with this type of trading is when price is in some kind of expanding triangle. And it never lets u come out of ur previous trades. Remember when u add positions on either side of your entry line, as soon as u add more, ur equity goes more and more in negative. Now iam not saying it doesnot work, but only in trending moves. I still remember a drawdown of around 10,000$(demo ofcourse) when i totally left this idea because it seemed so unreliable....
AGAIN! KEY here is tight GRID 3-5 pips and VERY tight Profit Taken say $10-20...

Ones price move down or UP little further against ENTRY LINE, TP will trigger... 100%.. I'm positive it's going to work...
  • #1,910
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:50pm Apr 4, 2016 6:50pm
Quoting bomax2000
A question for ALL you experienced EA users... what happens if your internet connection is lost OR your computer goes into hibernation mode while the EA employed? Is the EA working properly under these circumstances or does your computer have to be on and connected the entire time?
Yes. if you lose connection for any reason, the trades that are open are open and nothing new will happen as far as the EA as your computer needs to be on at all times along with your MT4 open and EA functioning in order for you to trade the EA's system.

Otherwise, there is another option which is to have a VPS. That is a Virtual Private Server. It is like having your own virtual computer on a server. You install MT4 and download the EA from the virtual computer. This is a service that many people offer but it comes at a price. If you are considering this, not only do you need to consider the price but also the quality of package that you are getting. Some VPS packages do not provide the right amount of CPU capability and RAM for MT4 to function well enough to properly open and close trades quick enough which can cause issues.

Feel free to PM me if you want any advice on this or anything else you want to chat about. I am always there to offer help so long as I am online.

Cheers!

Daniel
  • #1,911
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:55pm Apr 4, 2016 6:55pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Dude, I don't have to show you anything.. Did I asked you something? I ask Coders, If you cannot see what I see, F* you... Got it? Keep looking.. It's not my problem...
Anyway...

Your attitude stinks. You can't even answer bomax a simple question in some form of polite manner. I'm not going to lower myself to converse with you anymore. If your idea works, so be it. Too bad you needed to come across like a troll.
  • #1,912
  • Edited 7:09pm Apr 4, 2016 6:57pm | Edited 7:09pm
I Found New Necessary Development To Improve This Strategy,
To Be Useful And Collect Some Missed Profits In Trend Cases,



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That We Have To Close Profit Level When Price (Retrace Before Close The Most Loser Level),
Close Only One Profit Level Every One Trace.


It Can Be Done Like That:

PHP Code
void TryToClose(){
   static double LatBuyProfits=Profits("Buy");
   static double LatSellProfits=Profits("Sell");
  
 
   If (Profits("Buy")<LatBuyProfits && LastLevelPrice("Buy")-Price>=Step){
      LatBuyProfits=Profits("Buy");
      If(CanCloseWinAndLoseLevels("Buy")){CloseWinAndLoseLevels("Buy");}else{CloseOnlyWinLevel("Buy");}
   }
 
 
   If (Profits("Sell")<LatBuyProfits &&  Price-LastLevelPrice("Sell")>=Step){
      LatSellProfits=Profits("Sell");
      If(CanCloseWinAndLoseLevels("Sell")){CloseWinAndLoseLevels("Sell");}else{CloseOnlyWinLevel("Sell");}
   }
 
}
  • #1,913
  • Apr 4, 2016 6:58pm Apr 4, 2016 6:58pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} AGAIN! KEY here is tight GRID 3-5 pips and VERY tight Profit Taken say $10-20... Ones price move down or UP little further against ENTRY LINE, TP will trigger... 100%.. I'm positive it's going to work...
Ok iam not a coder at all, but i use fxdreema software to experiment simple ideas. I have made one for u wait for it
  • #1,914
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:01pm Apr 4, 2016 7:01pm
@ Ziegler

I looked at the idea too...but never really nailed it down to work. All you need is basic grid ea..... With middle point and stop orders each side. Search grid trapping on ffactory.... Pretty good ea for stop or limit orders made by radityo guy.
  • #1,915
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:01pm Apr 4, 2016 7:01pm
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} Anyway... Your attitude stinks. You can't even answer bomax a simple question in some form of polite manner. I'm not going to lower myself to converse with you anymore. If your idea works, so be it. Too bad you needed to come across like a troll.
Yes, that's why I asked, If you cannot CODE then I don't need you opinion, cause you have no clue what so ever.

If you don't understand, no problem..

Somebody who can code it.. I think it would not take much, we simply need to EDIT code and instead of SELL

Trigger BUY, for the moment I don't care about LOT (martingale and stuff increase) Just let it be Flat...
  • #1,916
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:01pm Apr 4, 2016 7:01pm
@Zigler.

You are coming across in a very aggressive and condemning manner. People are just bouncing ideas around. Grab yourself a cup of tea or coffee, put your feet up and relax.

Cheers,

John
  • #1,917
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:04pm Apr 4, 2016 7:04pm
OK, here we go.
What it does> when atached, places 50 buy and 50sell pending orders above and below the current price.
in seetings, first option is grid size 10 pips or whatever u want,
after that is lot size. (which is called volume in settings) for buys
Then same settings for sell pending ordersand second last is total profit in $$$
Hope it satisfies u
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  • #1,918
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:04pm Apr 4, 2016 7:04pm
Quoting Forexmeoff
@ Ziegler I looked at the idea too...but never really nailed it down to work. All you need is basic grid ea..... With middle point and stop orders each side. Search grid trapping on ffactory.... Pretty good ea for stop or limit orders made by radityo guy.
No Stop orders... Just keep Buying and selling every 3-4 pips against ENTRY POINT...!

Ones TREND hit Either Uptrend or Downtrend, you will quickly take profit... YES! It' probably tiny, but quick...
  • #1,919
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:07pm Apr 4, 2016 7:07pm
Quoting JaggWaa
OK, here we go. What it does> when atached, places 50 buy and 50sell pending orders above and below the current price. in seetings, first option is grid size 10 pips or whatever u want, after that is lot size. (which is called volume in settings) for buys Then same settings for sell pending ordersand second last is total profit in $$$ Hope it satisfies u {file}
Bro no need for pending.. But I guess it doesn't matter... 10 pips is TOO wide... And move in any DIRECTION will

cause TP hit Immediately...

But Thank you VERY much friend.. I'll Run test tomorrow...
  • #1,920
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:10pm Apr 4, 2016 7:10pm
[that's it=zigler;8853108]{quote} No Stop orders... Just keep Buying and selling every 3-4 pips against ENTRY POINT...! Ones TREND hit Either Uptrend or Downtrend, you will quickly take profit... YES! It' probably tiny, but quick...[/quote]

Yes thats it....its a grid that places buy , sell orders every 3 pips.....or your choice of pips of course. These orders are called stop orders....buy stop or sell stop. Limit orders are placed above the price to sell........sure you know. I didn't mean stop loss orders.
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