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  • #1,841
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:16am Apr 4, 2016 7:16am
a minor remark..

Technically we are not speaking off baskets here, I see many times the term basket, but baskets refer to a position in a couple off different pairs rather then a couple off positions in one pair.
Persistence will get it. Consistency will keep it.
  • #1,842
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:17am Apr 4, 2016 7:17am
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} Maybe we can all party on a cruise ship when the job is done. We could all pitch in and buy one. We'll call it "The SS Remon"
Dear Brothers, Please keep the spirit up. I am for the time being setting on a sideline. Watching you people. In fact, the strategy is not that simple to set in my dull mind. Anyhow, I am running the AB v3 since Tokyo+2, Its almost on B.E . I will replace the EA in comming Tokyo Open. Don't make too much noise, brokers are around. Consider them your enemy. You will definitely win.
Forex; the game of movements not the game of candles.
  • #1,843
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:17am Apr 4, 2016 7:17am
So far the best I could make out of it while testing but still in the long run Margin called.

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  • #1,844
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:18am Apr 4, 2016 7:18am
Quoting attilafx
What I don't get is this. How come that suddenly the Balance and Equity go way to wide from each other? If we could avoid that somewhow with an automatic close of all trades if Equity falls below 20% in the same day and continue only the next day, then we would have less chance to get margin called on the long run. {image}
This idea would actually be good if we were looking at a linear grid trading system. As I was testing a particular grid trading EA, I did think of closing trades and starting again from daily open. In this particular case, I disagree with the idea HOWEVER some traders have discussed it in previous posts when we only had part 1 in an EA. The issue is always that equity will go down when the pair trends without retracement or to the effect of very little.

Now that it seems we have a fully functioning EA, the DD is minimized by opening both BUY/SELL as PA exceeds the price level of the opened positions grid. This is not to say DD is eliminated in a trend as the extreme losers in most cases will only have either one sell or one buy and are waiting to be taken out by profitable positions. The only way you are going to properly fight DD in a full version of this idea is by widening the grid steps and lowering your trade lots if you are trading too much lots.

In a previous post I mentioned and shown that a wider grid brings lesser profit but it is not linear to the DD. On a 500 size grid the DD is about 3 times as much as a 1000 size grid. BUT instead of thinking you will get 3 x less profit, this is not the case. You only lose about 1/3. This is quite significant as with the example I used, I could show that with the 1000 size grid your could trade twice the amount of lots than the 500 and to add even more to this, the 500 size grid would not have survived the same initial deposit of the 1000 size grid. The 500 size grid would have blown and the 1000 size grid would have not.

Please take the time to look at this post and you might get a better picture of why wide grids are not as bad as they seem on the front cover.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...75#post8850575

Although it is based on a part 1 strategy EA, the concept is still valid.

Cheers!

Daniel
  • #1,845
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:21am Apr 4, 2016 7:21am
attilafx , settings, EA , pair, time frame, please
  • #1,846
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:22am Apr 4, 2016 7:22am
Quoting attilafx
More trades more profit? Red circles are big draw downs IMO. {image}
Hi,

what pair ; TF ; set up ?

thanks

mojepole
  • #1,847
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:25am Apr 4, 2016 7:25am
Guys,

Believe me this EA works best on EUR/CHF since which is most of the time range bound and slow movement, am already on with live account. lets see how it goes.

Thanks, Sathish
  • #1,848
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:26am Apr 4, 2016 7:26am
Quoting attilafx
More trades more profit? Red circles are big draw downs IMO. {image}
This in my opinion is typical DD at nearly the best settings. I fully expect the DD to be somewhere around the £300-£500 per 0.01 lots traded.

I'm still testing wider grids to see if we can get this down a bit more.

What I haven't seen on AGP EAs is a Minimum Take Profit. It seems Voldemar was trying to fight this issue of negative basket closes. This was another setting I was playing with to see what results would come out.

Something to consider Ab? I don't know...
  • #1,849
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:30am Apr 4, 2016 7:30am
Quoting attilafx
So far the best I could make out of it while testing but still in the long run Margin called. {image}
Your previous one was better. Don't think of high profits. The profits will take care of themselves longer term. Think the less DD possible. You will be able to make more profit by trading higher lots ones you resolve the DD issues.
  • #1,850
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:46am Apr 4, 2016 7:46am
with buy and sell
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  • #1,851
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:50am Apr 4, 2016 7:50am
Sys2 still testing.
I am using Sys2 because it is more customizable.

So far the best.
From $100 to $44.000+ from begin of the month till the end.

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  • #1,852
  • Apr 4, 2016 7:58am Apr 4, 2016 7:58am
Quoting attilafx
Sys2 still testing. I am using Sys2 because it is more customizable. So far the best. From $100 to $44.000+ from begin of the month till the end. {image}
Way too aggressive - would never last very long in the real world. As suggested, lower the lots and widen the grid.
  • #1,853
  • Edited 8:22am Apr 4, 2016 8:02am | Edited 8:22am
Quoting abokwaik
{quote} The closing happens only on retraces that exceed the grid step size.
The retace was more than 2x the grid size (Grid: 3 pips) and it has passed through 2 buy levels... but the Reserve cash has remained untouched...
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  • #1,854
  • Apr 4, 2016 8:04am Apr 4, 2016 8:04am
Quoting attilafx
Sys2 still testing. I am using Sys2 because it is more customizable. So far the best. From $100 to $44.000+ from begin of the month till the end. {image}
what pair and settings? you have to mind that this is grid trading and DD happens...
  • #1,855
  • Apr 4, 2016 8:05am Apr 4, 2016 8:05am
to attila. I think , it's doesn't matter, the DD, if you start with 100 usd and after one month you have reached balance 44000, then it's worth to risk it in real.
Again, please, what EA, settings, time frame and used date of testing ? Please Sir.
  • #1,856
  • Apr 4, 2016 8:07am Apr 4, 2016 8:07am
Quoting ChicagoRob
{quote} Way too aggressive - would never last very long in the real world. As suggested, lower the lots and widen the grid.
Really?
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  • #1,857
  • Apr 4, 2016 8:16am Apr 4, 2016 8:16am
Quoting attilafx
{quote} Really? {image}
You can't run any of these EAs on your starting balance. Even $1000 can be too low.
  • #1,858
  • Apr 4, 2016 8:20am Apr 4, 2016 8:20am
Quoting Bilstein
I wanted to take a second and point something out here. Don't get defensive, I'm not going to insult the strategy! The reason I'm not going to insult it is because it's similar to the way that I trade, and have been doing it this way for a long time. My issue is the way it's presented as a "100% no-loss strategy." Reality is significantly different, there are some variables left out of the video. The concept is simple: Average into a larger position for every 1 point that a trade goes against you. As you bring your average entry price closer to...
Anyone with saitima for a profile pic is alright with me. lol
  • #1,859
  • Apr 4, 2016 8:21am Apr 4, 2016 8:21am
This screenshot shows that (previously mentioned) TOP and BOTTOM "BUY" trades were closed eventually at minimum profit. It is not clear if "Reserve Cash" was used or not at that point. Later additional buy trades were closed in combination with some sell trades.
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  • #1,860
  • Apr 4, 2016 8:23am Apr 4, 2016 8:23am
Quoting ChicagoRob
{quote} You can't run any of these EAs on your starting balance. Even $1000 can be too low.
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