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  • #201
  • Apr 3, 2016 2:36pm Apr 3, 2016 2:36pm
Hi dave_c sorry for question... I have to make a donation to unlock the write/read button?
  • #202
  • Apr 3, 2016 3:51pm Apr 3, 2016 3:51pm
Quoting Ronald123
Hi Dave_C, Thanks for making your Agility Trader available for free, it allowed me to finally automate a few of my favorite strategies and perform some back tests on them. I have one question for now: during the back tests the common MT4 buy/sell arrows and dotted lines appear on the charts, but they all disappear again once a back test is finished. I tried this on several brokers and it seems to be a software (EA) related issue. Is your EA coded to clean up all the arrows and dotted lines after a back test or is it some kind of bug? Regards and...
​Part of the Deinit code is to delete all objects so you should choose the visual mode in back tests if you wish to identify trades. I will look at another method of deleting the Panel only in the next revision.
  • #203
  • Apr 3, 2016 3:53pm Apr 3, 2016 3:53pm
Quoting elvis94
Hi dave_c sorry for question... I have to make a donation to unlock the write/read button?
​Underneath the Read / Write buttons is a button to make that choice but the EA will operate fully without the companion program.
  • #204
  • Apr 3, 2016 3:57pm Apr 3, 2016 3:57pm
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} ​Part of the Deinit code is to delete all objects so you should choose the visual mode in back tests if you wish to identify trades. I will look at another method of deleting the Panel only in the next revision.
I always use the visual mode in back tests... Looking forward to the next revision.

Cheers
95% of the people don't believe 100% they can win, that's why they lose
  • #205
  • Edited 7:25pm Apr 3, 2016 6:17pm | Edited 7:25pm
​I have made a number of number of changes to the EA in response to PM's and discovered an error which needs to be corrected. Also I have addressed the problem of trade lines disappearing with a non visual back test.

Firstly changes as a result of PM's

  1. For trades at a specific time of each hour Leave Param1 at 0 and Param2 at 0 and just nominate Param3 (Minutes). Similarly for specific hours, leave Param1 at 0
  2. StopLoss or TakeProfit as a multiple of ATR. Use Nominated Value to express the multiple.


Secondly SellExit conditions were not being interpreted correctly- my error.

Thirdly, Input panel will remain after EA is deactivated but the white panel is removed. This is the best workaround that I can devise in a short time since it is advantageous to have the inputs still visible at the end of a back test. The inputs can be removed from the chart by selecting all objects and pressing delete, however the white panel was remaining, so I have chosen to delete it in code on exit. It is not such a bad thing as it serves as an indication that the EA is deactivated.

On a personal note, I always reply to posts and PM's but my action yesterday, when I asked a poster to discontinue posting, was not done without reference to all the facts, and I had noted the poster's courtesy on his most recent posts but I'm sure most smart people understood my actions. However there are always a few who take exception and that is their right and they can vote with their feet. I choose not to dignify them with a reply. I have never placed anybody on my ignore list and the person concerned is free to PM me.

In relation to the poster who PM'd me with a request and then placed me on their ignore list so I was unable to reply having spent quite some time working out a solution, let them rely on their own conscience.

I'm not so sure about the panel solution at this stage, so please download the latest update here.

Look forward to your feedback.

  • #206
  • Apr 3, 2016 9:38pm Apr 3, 2016 9:38pm
Hi Dave

When l withdraw the last version from chart...Here is what happen... White Font is gone but Blue one stayed...
Also no trade have been trigerred same as conditions are met...Do not know what is the problem
l will try with an older version to be sure my preset works as it was last friday

Keep you posted
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  • #207
  • Apr 3, 2016 9:54pm Apr 3, 2016 9:54pm
Quoting ben.deschain
Hi Dave When l withdraw the last version from chart...Here is what happen... White Font is gone but Blue one stayed... Also no trade have been trigerred same as conditions are met...Do not know what is the problem l will try with an older version to be sure my preset works as it was last friday Keep you posted {image}
Never was white font just a blue font on a white background. The reasons for keeping the inputs on screen are covered in the above post. If you use a black background you will lose the functionality of having your inputs still visible on screen after back testing.

Regarding your own presets, I explained in a PM that I felt that your 3 entry conditions would cause very few trades to be triggered.
  • #208
  • Apr 3, 2016 10:12pm Apr 3, 2016 10:12pm
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} Never was white font just a blue font on a white background. The reasons for keeping the inputs on screen are covered in the above post. If you use a black background you will lose the functionality of having your inputs still visible on screen after back testing. Regarding your own presets, I explained in a PM that I felt that your 3 entry conditions would cause very few trades to be triggered.
l have changed it... have only 2 conditions now... that was working fine friday... but l did some little changes during the WE... maybie '' no trade'' is totally my faulf... l am testing an older version anyway right now...just to be sure...
Concerning the blue font...it stays same as you withdraw AT from chart...Have deleted each lines manually into objet list box. That never happened before...not a big deal

Keep you posted
  • #209
  • Apr 3, 2016 11:17pm Apr 3, 2016 11:17pm
Quoting ben.deschain
{quote} l have changed it... have only 2 conditions now... that was working fine friday... but l did some little changes during the WE... maybie '' no trade'' is totally my faulf... l am testing an older version anyway right now...just to be sure... Concerning the blue font...it stays same as you withdraw AT from chart...Have deleted each lines manually into objet list box. That never happened before...not a big deal Keep you posted
Appreciate your comments Ben. I did fully discuss my reasoning in Post #205 however I am open to a better idea. The problem is the box drawn around the inputs cannot be deleted manually or I would leave it there for readibility. This arises because of the previous delete all objects command on de-init also deletes trade lines on back testing. It's a big job just to delete the inputs box programatically and it is quite helpful after back testing anyway.

As for your conditions, just try step by step adding conditions on a back test, even over 1 week to see why the trades are not occurring. Reference your journal at the end of each back test.

By the way you can delete all objects at once. Highlight the first and then hold down shift and then highlight the last and then press delete.
  • #210
  • Apr 3, 2016 11:29pm Apr 3, 2016 11:29pm
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} Appreciate your comments Ben. I did fully discuss my reasoning in Post #205 however I am open to a better idea. The problem is the box drawn around the inputs cannot be deleted manually or I would leave it there for readibility. This arises because of the previous delete all objects command on de-init also deletes trade lines on back testing. It's a big job just to delete the inputs box programatically and it is quite helpful after back testing anyway. As for your conditions, just try step by step adding conditions on a back test, even over...

Sorry didn't realized that was related to this:
The inputs can be removed from the chart by selecting all objects and pressing delete, however the white panel was remaining, so I have chosen to delete it in code on exit.

l see say the blind man...
Shame on me

EDIT: found my mistake...double shame on me...everything is ok sorry for crying wolf
  • #211
  • Edited Apr 4, 2016 5:52am Apr 3, 2016 11:42pm | Edited Apr 4, 2016 5:52am
This week I intend to discuss turning the corner in profitibility.

Too much emphasis is placed on getting the direction of trade right. A much better approach is to identify a potential significant support point and use a LImit Buy. With resistance, use a Limit Sell approaching a resistance point. Even Straddles can be considered around the significant points in question.

Remember if you miss an opportunity, it is better to let go. Plenty of opportunities out there.

Support and Resistance points include Pivot Points, Fibonacci levels and upper and lower channel levels.

Consider using Straddle trades ​after News events. Whipsawing during News Releases easily triggers Stop Losses. Always use the max slippage setting to limit slippage and I suggest a Straddle trade 15 mins after the event when the direction should have stabilized. 15 pips straddle each way is generally OK. The effects of a news event can last for days so waiting for 15 minutes does little harm to profitability.
  • #212
  • Apr 3, 2016 11:57pm Apr 3, 2016 11:57pm
Maybe we can try TMS
  • #213
  • Apr 4, 2016 12:16am Apr 4, 2016 12:16am
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} ​Underneath the Read / Write buttons is a button to make that choice but the EA will operate fully without the companion program.
Thanks for the attention!!!
  • #214
  • Apr 4, 2016 9:49am Apr 4, 2016 9:49am
hello folks um ya continuing forward tests on my 1m scenario trades . Thought maybe was on to something but was short lived ...oh well um have since put in a couple of ma settings to see if this will reduce 50/50 out comes or worse ..will keep posting after results . On back test at the moment seem to get similar positive out comes on 1m or 1h time frames with this new setup but forward testing is always different .So as I said when I get the real facts I will deliver them here.. later ..good trading all
  • #215
  • Apr 4, 2016 12:18pm Apr 4, 2016 12:18pm
Quoting aimfire
Yes Ben the first post but am mistaken about the set file it is the chanel set ..see if I can upload set txt now {file}
Hello Aimfire,

You set your TP to 30pts but why do you use a 1mn TF for this? maybe 30pts is more reachable with 5mn or 15mn.

tx
S
  • #216
  • Apr 4, 2016 12:48pm Apr 4, 2016 12:48pm
Quoting sbenichou1
{quote} Hello Aimfire, You set your TP to 30pts but why do you use a 1mn TF for this? maybe 30pts is more reachable with 5mn or 15mn. tx S
no I had my TP as low as 8 but now are at 15 ..think 30 was a default. my sl also at the moment is at 15 ...my trial with added ema is not going so well though... willl test all night to get a better picture of all the trades. I'm really not sure if I can tweek the ea to work in this way but nothing ventured nothing gained
  • #217
  • Apr 4, 2016 12:53pm Apr 4, 2016 12:53pm
Quoting aimfire
{quote} no I had my TP as low as 8 but now are at 15 ..think 30 was a default. my sl also at the moment is at 15 ...my trial with added ema is not going so well though... willl test all night to get a better picture of all the trades. I'm really not sure if I can tweek the ea to work in this way but nothing ventured nothing gained
I just used the file you posted where there was 30 as tp and 20 as sl
  • #218
  • Apr 4, 2016 5:11pm Apr 4, 2016 5:11pm
Quoting sbenichou1
{quote} I just used the file you posted where there was 30 as tp and 20 as sl
I must have put the wrong file sorry
  • #219
  • Apr 4, 2016 11:30pm Apr 4, 2016 11:30pm
​Todays discussion on turning the corner relates to timing of trades.

Make sure you use tools which alert you to significant and regular news events. It's very easy to get caught out. There are many good news sites and news tools. Google for them. You'll be surprised at the software offerings for news trades. These are the most significant events that move the market and you must take careful notice. Consider sites such as forexlive.com which give a running commentary during the trading day.

Consider adding the time element to your trading methodology. Around London and New York opens market moves can be pronounced. Consider using straddle trades about half an hour before market opens. Have you ever tried a Continuous Straddle methodology. Use that in conjunction with the time element and back test for SL and TP relevant to your currency pairs. Every pair has a different "DNA" that backtesting will reveal. I have enclosed a sample set file (rename to .set) with a Risk/Reward ratio of 1/1 but I would suggest you optimize 10 to 100 in steps of 10 for SL and TP on your required pair on a 60m chart. Wager Increase multiple is set to 1.5.
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File Type: txt London_NewYork_Straddle.txt   9 KB | 287 downloads
  • #220
  • Apr 5, 2016 6:38am Apr 5, 2016 6:38am
Thanks Dave for important strategic information ...just update for me ....last nights trades continued on a slow decline of death on my setup so have tweek some more and will continue on ....good trading all
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