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  • #441
  • Mar 23, 2016 2:34pm Mar 23, 2016 2:34pm
Quoting imatache
+80% today on EURUSD (500 to 900). I tend to agree lotsize should be kept to a minimum, 0.01 lots per 1,000 USD. {image}
What version is this?
  • #442
  • Mar 23, 2016 2:45pm Mar 23, 2016 2:45pm
At The Next Development,


I Will Add Multi Pairs Capability,
It Can Be Like That:

Say, We Open Any Count Of Pairs (More Than One) Like EURUSD+EURJPY+USDJPY

Then The Three Profits Will Divided And Go To The Share Heart Store,
And Used For Close The Most Big Loss Level ,
Then Close The Next Big Loss Level And So On,

So We Can Close Big Loss Levels With Not Waiting Too Much For Price Return.
  • #443
  • Mar 23, 2016 2:53pm Mar 23, 2016 2:53pm
20% profit on a $5k account in 1 day... (but still risky):
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  • #444
  • Mar 23, 2016 2:55pm Mar 23, 2016 2:55pm
Quoting remon78eg
At The Next Development, I Will Add Multi Pairs Capability, It Can Be Like That: Say, We Open Any Count Of Pairs (More Than One) Like EURUSD+EURJPY+USDJPY Then The Three Profits Will Divided And Go To The Share Heart Store, And Used For Close The Most Big Loss Level , Then Close The Next Big Loss Level And So On, So We Can Close Big Loss Levels With Not Waiting Too Much For Price Return.
This was the next step I was waiting for Remon. Very interesting.

Do you think perhaps we should choose pairs that are not necessarily correlated too closely so that if one pair starts a nasty range, the others won't necessarily be too affected? Well either way, this will be something that we must test forwards as it impossible to test in strategy tester.

But before we do get to that point, are the current EAs posted here working as you intended? Backtest isnt enough to go by, but I do keep getting Margin Calls when I test. And rather quickly as well unfortunately. I have not started forward testing yet though.
  • #445
  • Mar 23, 2016 2:56pm Mar 23, 2016 2:56pm
Quoting MasterGuru
20% profit on a $5k account in 1 day... (but still risky): {image}
OK.
  • #446
  • Mar 23, 2016 3:04pm Mar 23, 2016 3:04pm
Quoting cardm3n
{quote} This was the next step I was waiting for Remon. Very interesting. Do you think perhaps we should choose pairs that are not necessarily correlated too closely (1)so that if one pair starts a nasty range, the others won't necessarily be too affected? Well either way, this will be something that we must test forwards as it impossible to test in strategy tester. But before we do get to that point,(2) are the current EAs posted here working as you...

Good & Smart Questions,
(1) Yes, Prefer To Use (Not Correlated) Pairs.
(2) Not Yet, So I'm Working In The EA Now.
  • #447
  • Mar 23, 2016 3:06pm Mar 23, 2016 3:06pm
Quoting remon78eg
{quote} Thanks, I'm Still Thinking About This. I'm Trying To Cover This Case As I Can. {image}
In this kind of situations when the Edge is exposed, I thinf you have to close losing positons even if it is at loss. You can think of it like taking pips of closed trades.

for example:
At 3 position imbalance: take 2 pips from balance to close worst trade.
At 4 3 pips
At 5 4 pips........
I think this will reduce the drawdowns.
  • #448
  • Mar 23, 2016 3:22pm Mar 23, 2016 3:22pm
Quoting BermeoFX
{quote} In this kind of situations when the Edge is exposed, I thinf you have to close losing positons even if it is at loss. You can think of it like taking pips of closed trades. for example: At 3 position imbalance: take 2 pips from balance to close worst trade. At 4 3 pips At 5 4 pips........ I think this will reduce the drawdowns.
Very Good Idea,

You Means That :
If The Loss Levels Count Is More Than #Number# So,
We Can Take From The (Right Profits Box) To Emergency Close This Level.

Or There Is Another Way?
  • #449
  • Mar 23, 2016 3:45pm Mar 23, 2016 3:45pm
Another Note:
When We Close Trace Win Level , And Will Close The Most Lose Level,
We Have To Use OrderCloseBy() To Gain Spreads.
  • #450
  • Mar 23, 2016 3:52pm Mar 23, 2016 3:52pm
Quoting remon78eg
{quote} Very Good Result, Is That Means That We Have To Use This Three Pairs At The Same Time Not Only One? {image} {image} {image}
Well the problem is how we identify the profit? I mean it could be $267 profit in closed trades and
Open trades are Minus $300+ which probably the case here. If all trades are closed then it's indeed a real Profit.
  • #451
  • Mar 23, 2016 3:56pm Mar 23, 2016 3:56pm
Quoting MasterGuru
20% profit on a $5k account in 1 day... (but still risky): {image}
LOL 20% a day profit but still risky? What else is new I mean There is no such thing as Profit without Risk,

you know.. Bro show us the trading Window.. That "Profit" is Closed Trades while other "OPEN" trades are probably running in

Loss which is higher than "Profit", that's what I notice...
  • #452
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:07pm Mar 23, 2016 4:07pm
Quoting MasterGuru
{quote} With the 10 pips grid and fixed lots the DD is really bad in relation to closed profits but mainly due to the USDCAD uptrend... Anyway, it does not matter it is EURUSD or USDCAD, the fact of the matter is that a strong trend can cause a huge DD if no hedging is used... {image}
It's purely my own imagination, but I rather Place ZIGANDZAG on the CHART and KEEP Placing Trades when ERROR Up or Down is Occur

while we all know that ZigZag is repainting, but still it repaints mostly at the turning points.. I' rather count 10 pips from last ZigZag turning point...

Just a thoughts.... but this method we have here still needs to be validated before modifications....
  • #453
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:13pm Mar 23, 2016 4:13pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} LOL 20% a day profit but still risky? What else is new I mean There is no such thing as Profit without Risk, you know.. Bro show us the trading Window.. That "Profit" is Closed Trades while other "OPEN" trades are probably running in Loss which is higher than "Profit", that's what I notice...
@zigler

If you had read my previous posts you would know better what I meant by "risky"... Apparently you did not read them...

Anyway, here you go... Floating loss is -21 USD with +998 USD closed profits on a $5k account...

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  • #454
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:20pm Mar 23, 2016 4:20pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} LOL 20% a day profit but still risky? What else is new I mean There is no such thing as Profit without Risk, you know.. Bro show us the trading Window.. That "Profit" is Closed Trades while other "OPEN" trades are probably running in Loss which is higher than "Profit", that's what I notice...
This Is A Bad Way,
To Discuss A Scientific Matter,
You Have To Proof Or Ask For A Proof Not Just Guess,
And Act Like You Got The Only Right Answer.
  • #455
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:22pm Mar 23, 2016 4:22pm
Quoting remon78eg
{quote} This Is A Bad Way, To Discuss A Scientific Matter, You Have To Proof Or Ask For A Proof Not Just Guess, And Act Like You Got The Only Right Answer.
When I have positive results I will post for sure, so far Equity in minus always bigger than Closed profit..
Besides we are talking about Different Strategies.. Master-G as I can see using Semi-Martingale EA with Increasing Lots..

I'm using FLAT 0.10 per Position open.. So it's apples and Oranges..
  • #456
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:24pm Mar 23, 2016 4:24pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Bro I have no clue how you achieve those results, Unless you have like 5 pips spread between the trades.. I'm running same version with 15 pips Grid, nothing positive so far.. Need time, movement back and forth.. Maybe tomorrow then..
@zigler

I have shown my settings numerous times, but here it goes again... Grid step is set at 1 pip... (10 points)

P.S. I am using the very first published EA made by @Voldemar227 which EA uses progressive lot sizes. The only thing I have modified is the "Step Order" to get more trades and to be able to evaluate trade logic. By "accident" the EA has been making consistent profits... At least for the past 30 hours...

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  • #457
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:29pm Mar 23, 2016 4:29pm
Quoting MasterGuru
{quote} @zigler I have shown my settings numerous times, but here it goes again... Grid step is set at 1 pip... (10 points) P.S. I am using the very first published EA made by @Voldemar which uses progressive lot sizes. {image}
Alright, sorry then, It's completely different setup.. I'm using FLAT betting 15 pips a part..

P.S.

I don't think 1 pip a part is Realistic in the Real world. When Pair is on the move, you going to clog (DDOS) your Broker Server

with gazillion orders most of them going to get fail with bunch of errors.. If pair Moves 10 pips in 5 seconds how you

picture open 2 trades every 1 pip? I don't think so.. I'd try maybe 5-7 pips minimum and see what's up, thanks..
  • #458
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:42pm Mar 23, 2016 4:42pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Alright, sorry then, It's completely different setup.. I'm using FLAT betting 15 pips a part.. P.S. I don't think 1 pip a part is Realistic in the Real world. When Pair is on the move, you going to clog (DDOS) your Broker Server with gazillion orders most of them going to get fail with bunch of errors.. If pair Moves 10 pips in 5 seconds how you picture open 2 trades every 1 pip? I don't think so.. I'd try maybe 5-7 pips minimum and see what's up, thanks..

You may think that 15 pips apart is the safer answer to running a Grid but in reality its NOT! Why? Because it has farther to retrace to collect your profits. Is 1 pip the answer? Nope! But 3 or 4 but no more than 5 pips is the answer. Trust Me I been running/testing these bots for many years. Just trying to help out here...
  • #459
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:44pm Mar 23, 2016 4:44pm
Quoting zigler
{quote} Alright, sorry then, It's completely different setup.. I'm using FLAT betting 15 pips a part.. P.S. I don't think 1 pip a part is Realistic in the Real world. When Pair is on the move, you going to clog (DDOS) your Broker Server with gazillion orders most of them going to get fail with bunch of errors.. If pair Moves 10 pips in 5 seconds how you picture open 2 trades every 1 pip? I don't think so.. I'd try maybe 5-7 pips minimum and see what's up, thanks..
I am not sure how it would work out on a live account... But these are the statistics by MyFxBook (yellow line is Equity, i.e. showing the impact of floating loss):
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  • #460
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:47pm Mar 23, 2016 4:47pm
Quoting remon78eg
At The Next Development, I Will Add Multi Pairs Capability, It Can Be Like That: Say, We Open Any Count Of Pairs (More Than One) Like EURUSD+EURJPY+USDJPY Then The Three Profits Will Divided And Go To The Share Heart Store, And Used For Close The Most Big Loss Level , Then Close The Next Big Loss Level And So On, So We Can Close Big Loss Levels With Not Waiting Too Much For Price Return.

In all honesty, YOU don't need to run it on 3 pairs all at once. all you need is 1 pair. Running it on 3 pairs all that you are looking to do it put 3 times the amount of risk in front of you. 1 PAIR IS GOOD. Once again I am sharing this VITAL information from experience. But GREED becomes people and they will do whatever they feel is right.
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