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  • #361
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:11am Mar 23, 2016 9:11am
Quoting cardm3n
Wonder how it all plays out.

You n Me both, brother!

It's really easy to look at a backtest and dream about the future, but the actual reality is that if backtests worked, we'd all be EA millionaires.

The "Strategy Tester" isn't to gauge future performance by past, it is useful in verification of trading logic.

If the EA does what you tell it to do, you are still at a great risk, but this should at least give you an understanding.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #362
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:13am Mar 23, 2016 9:13am
Quoting AcanaTrader
{quote} ok, i will not post anymore about backtesting my only reason post result is quoting modeling quality below 99,90% just for comparison
I understand what you are saying, but honestly, both of them are completely worthless.

Spend less time at becoming a master of backtest quality and more time watching the actual logic in play.

This could prove to be a lot more beneficial to your personal performance.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #363
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:14am Mar 23, 2016 9:14am
Quoting Voldemar227
What are we going to do in this case ? {image}
1/2 of the profit in the closed BUY trades together with the profitable SELL trades are being used to close the BIGGEST losing SELL trade.

Watch video 2 and you will get it.
  • #364
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:20am Mar 23, 2016 9:20am
Quoting soeasy69
{quote} The MAIN reason why all these type of Martingale EA's Blow Up accounts because they all increase the lot size. Who say that the lots need to be increased after each order? NOBODY! That's who. This is the key to running a Grid with success. And for all of you who thinks they can run these types of strategies with $100 to $300 is looking for a quick END to their account. For each starting lot of 0.01 $10,000 is needed to withstand HUGE Draw Downs. Anything less and it's going to BLOW UP YOUR ACCOUNT!!!
Yes, That's Right.
  • #365
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:23am Mar 23, 2016 9:23am
Quoting ghozt
if(b==0) BuyLot=0.01;//(Lot>0)?Lot:lot; else BuyLot=0.01;//BuyMinLot+Lot; if(s==0) SellLot=0.01;//(Lot>0)?Lot:lot; else SellLot=0.01;//SellMaxLot+Lot; Copy and paste this in to the right place in the code. Then it will only open 0.01 Lots....
Yes,
Or Add This After It.


PHP Code
BuyLot=Lot;
SellLot=Lot;
  • #366
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:26am Mar 23, 2016 9:26am
Quoting profitfarmer
10.000$ per 0.01lot is a little bit on the extreme side though just don't use 1 pip steps as increments. and in general don't position your hopes to double account every 2 hours or whatnot!
Yes, True.
  • #367
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:30am Mar 23, 2016 9:30am
Quoting soeasy69
{quote} I have been running these type of Bots for over 8 years. TRUST ME I know what I am talking about. I am trying to help people here understand just how dangerous these bots can be. They all do good in a sideways range. But as soon as the pair they run it on BREAKS out and runs 600 pips with NO RETRACE then what? BOOM!!! SO TRUST ME WHEN I SAY YOU NEED MINIMUM $10,000 per 0.01 lot traded and trading this on the EURUSD is also a disaster. You need to run it on a pair that...
Yes, 100% True.
  • #368
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:32am Mar 23, 2016 9:32am
Quoting Magix
{quote} Absolutely Nothing. They are both fucking worthless!
  • #369
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:39am Mar 23, 2016 9:39am
Well this thread has gotten somewhat confusing. In the beginning I think I knew what remon was trying to accomplish, now I'm not so sure. Good luck to you guys, I hope you figure it out. I'll just say one last final thing... You need to stop worrying about how much money your EA is gonna make in back-tests while you should worry about being able to control your draw-down and minimize margin pressure. If you're gonna use a hedging system, you will have lots of entries. Those entries should allow for many small profit hits while killing off the biggest loser causing you margin pain. Your goal at the end of the day should be to have a NET Positive account balance. Its great when an ea makes $100 in an hour of trading with micro lots, it is also very unrealistic. The sooner you guys figure that out, the better. Wishing you all great success.
  • #370
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:44am Mar 23, 2016 9:44am
Quoting remon78eg
{quote} Yes, 100% True.
So glad you AGREE with me remon78eg... So many new traders think they can get RICH starting with wheel barrel and a shovel like in the good old days when in REALITY they need a backhoe and a dump truck!!! You need lots of capitol to trade this people. And you need to be able to SUFFER through the pain of DRAWDOWN! Because before you make BIG money with this type of EA you need to see losses before gains!

IF YOU ONLY HAVE A SMALL ACCOUNT OF SAY $100 - $300 this is NOT FOR YOU!!!

Go trade by hand you will have a better chance to make pips then to try to USE A EA LIKE THIS! TRUST ME Ladies and Gents....
  • #371
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:52am Mar 23, 2016 9:52am
Quoting Eddd
Suggestion: What if you display on the right hand side the long profit or loss with number of trades and the calculation as you described in the video, and the same for the shorts on the other side. And maybe have a close out ea that you can apply to get out before a news event, that close out positions without opening new ones, and once a acceptable loss value is reached (pre-selected in the inputs of course) closes out all trades. call be a dumb ass if this doesn't make sense.
Yes, Good Suggestion.

We Can Add Two Buttons,
To Active (Sell / Buy) Or Not.

If Sell Button Is Not Active Then It Will Not Open New Sell After Close All Sell, And Another Button To (Active/Not Active) Open Martingales (Levels).
  • #372
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:53am Mar 23, 2016 9:53am
this would be the result today in an account demonstration in the EURUSD, EURGBP, EURCHF and GBPUSD pairs.
grid = 5pips
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  • #373
  • Mar 23, 2016 9:55am Mar 23, 2016 9:55am
Quoting soeasy69
{quote} About the Close All Trades I was thinking the exact same thing. Since it always has open orders in losses its critical to have a Close All Button right on the chart.
After Press Close All Button,
It Must Show Confirm Message To Cancel If Not Want To Close.
  • #374
  • Mar 23, 2016 10:00am Mar 23, 2016 10:00am
Quoting tradeforlife
{quote} thanks for your suggestion soeasy but did you read all the posts in this thread from start??? If not, please read it and then comment, because the idea here is to hedge all the positions, so even if the price trends, only money you could lose is the spread...
True,

But Note That Not 100% Hedge All Time,
About (30%-100%) Only
  • #375
  • Edited 10:58am Mar 23, 2016 10:03am | Edited 10:58am
Forward test results of FIXED lot version with 0.1 lot running simultaneously on EURGBP, EURUSD and USDCAD: 267 USD profit in 5 hours on a $10k account.
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  • #376
  • Mar 23, 2016 10:08am Mar 23, 2016 10:08am
Quoting imatache
Ranging pairs/assets are obviously mandatory for this EA to be successful. Also, the fixed lot version stands the best chance of yielding consistently profitable results, be they far from certainty. I guess assuming and containing the fact that it will blow up in certain heavily trending market conditions is part of its success. Should we throw it away just because it works ok 90% cases and it may blow up in 10% of cases? Definitely not. So we should rather use small accounts + frequent withdrawals.
We Will Try To Make It 100% Safe,
By Developing it,
And By Calculate What We Need (balance , margin , ...) For 1500 Pip Safe
  • #377
  • Mar 23, 2016 10:11am Mar 23, 2016 10:11am
WHY IS EVERYBODY SHOUTING....?
  • #378
  • Mar 23, 2016 10:15am Mar 23, 2016 10:15am
Quoting soeasy69
{quote} So then this will be part B of the EA then? Okay sorry I missed that part... Take a look at what I got so far traderforlife... {image}
Yes,
It Has To Be Buy & Sell .
  • #379
  • Mar 23, 2016 10:18am Mar 23, 2016 10:18am
Quoting shg
{quote} yes you are right...i have tested these setting from Jan., 2015 and its not surviving...its crashing..i increased the step order to 400 but even after that it was almost blowing up and then survive at last moment...i seted up lot 0.01 in 10k account when backtesting so actually not worth it...we need to wait till we get part 2 completed ea...
Yes, True.
  • #380
  • Mar 23, 2016 10:20am Mar 23, 2016 10:20am
Quoting imatache
{quote} My point exactly: progressive lots + trending pairs (or trending market conditions) are not compatible with this EA. I believe it can make 10-20% day using conservative risk management and fixed lotsite. I recommend EURUSD 0.05 lots against US$ 500 balance (so that's 0.01 lots per each US$ 100). It won't be a staggering performance, though good enough to move into live trading
OK.
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