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  • #321
  • Mar 23, 2016 12:08am Mar 23, 2016 12:08am
hi

im testing the ea but is there a way to set all trades to be 0.01 lot only instead of increasing lots?
  • #322
  • Mar 23, 2016 12:09am Mar 23, 2016 12:09am
Quoting waltini1
I believe this concept has generally been covered by this old thread and might be worth a read especially for the coders. https://www.forex-tsd.com/forum/trad...91-pipmaker-v1
Thanks For The URL,

It Looks Like A Similar Main Idea, But It Must Be Some Differences In The Details,

So, Can Any One Know What Happen At The End?
Are They Profit From It Or What Happen?

Can Any One Try The Back test And Put Some Pictures Of The Result To Compare Who Is Better, This Or That System.
  • #323
  • Mar 23, 2016 12:30am Mar 23, 2016 12:30am
Quoting hewtwok
hi im testing the ea but is there a way to set all trades to be 0.01 lot only instead of increasing lots?
That is a very good idea ... this way it won't BLOW UP so easily.
  • #324
  • Mar 23, 2016 12:35am Mar 23, 2016 12:35am
Quoting soeasy69
{quote} That is a very good idea ... this way it won't BLOW UP so easily.


The MAIN reason why all these type of Martingale EA's Blow Up accounts because they all increase the lot size.

Who say that the lots need to be increased after each order? NOBODY! That's who. This is the key to running a Grid with success.

And for all of you who thinks they can run these types of strategies with $100 to $300 is looking for a quick END to their account.

For each starting lot of 0.01 $10,000 is needed to withstand HUGE Draw Downs. Anything less and it's going to BLOW UP YOUR ACCOUNT!!!
  • #325
  • Mar 23, 2016 12:36am Mar 23, 2016 12:36am
if(b==0)
BuyLot=0.01;//(Lot>0)?Lot:lot;
else
BuyLot=0.01;//BuyMinLot+Lot;
if(s==0)
SellLot=0.01;//(Lot>0)?Lot:lot;
else
SellLot=0.01;//SellMaxLot+Lot;

Copy and paste this in to the right place in the code. Then it will only open 0.01 Lots....
  • #326
  • Mar 23, 2016 12:57am Mar 23, 2016 12:57am
Quoting soeasy69
{quote} The MAIN reason why all these type of Martingale EA's Blow Up accounts because they all increase the lot size. Who say that the lots need to be increased after each order? NOBODY! That's who. This is the key to running a Grid with success. And for all of you who thinks they can run these types of strategies with $100 to $300 is looking for a quick END to their account. For each starting lot of 0.01 $10,000 is needed to withstand HUGE Draw Downs. Anything less and it's going to BLOW UP YOUR ACCOUNT!!!

It is the best way to survive! longer !
  • #327
  • Mar 23, 2016 1:03am Mar 23, 2016 1:03am
10.000$ per 0.01lot is a little bit on the extreme side though
just don't use 1 pip steps as increments.
and in general don't position your hopes to double account every 2 hours or whatnot!
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #328
  • Mar 23, 2016 1:12am Mar 23, 2016 1:12am
Quoting profitfarmer
10.000$ per 0.01lot is a little bit on the extreme side though just don't use 1 pip steps as increments. and in general don't position your hopes to double account every 2 hours or whatnot!

I have been running these type of Bots for over 8 years. TRUST ME I know what I am talking about. I am trying to help people here understand just how dangerous these bots can be. They all do good in a sideways range. But as soon as the pair they run it on BREAKS out and runs 600 pips with NO RETRACE then what? BOOM!!!

SO TRUST ME WHEN I SAY YOU NEED MINIMUM $10,000 per 0.01 lot traded and trading this on the EURUSD is also a disaster. You need to run it on a pair that chops up and down like the EURGBP or the AUDCAD ect... I have tested over 500 EA's since 2005 how many EA's have you tested?

I am only trying to help. But go ahead Mr. Profitfarmer do it your way and soon you will see that I was right.
  • #329
  • Mar 23, 2016 1:35am Mar 23, 2016 1:35am
Suggestion: What if you display on the right hand side the long profit or loss with number of trades and the calculation as you described in the video, and the same for the shorts on the other side.

And maybe have a close out ea that you can apply to get out before a news event, that close out positions without opening new ones, and once a acceptable loss value is reached (pre-selected in the inputs of course) closes out all trades.

call be a dumb ass if this doesn't make sense.
  • #330
  • Mar 23, 2016 2:35am Mar 23, 2016 2:35am
Quoting Eddd
Suggestion: What if you display on the right hand side the long profit or loss with number of trades and the calculation as you described in the video, and the same for the shorts on the other side. And maybe have a close out ea that you can apply to get out before a news event, that close out positions without opening new ones, and once a acceptable loss value is reached (pre-selected in the inputs of course) closes out all trades. call be a dumb ass if this doesn't make sense.

About the Close All Trades I was thinking the exact same thing. Since it always has open orders in losses its critical to have a Close All Button right on the chart.
  • #331
  • Mar 23, 2016 2:55am Mar 23, 2016 2:55am
Quoting soeasy69
{quote} I have been running these type of Bots for over 8 years. TRUST ME I know what I am talking about. I am trying to help people here understand just how dangerous these bots can be. They all do good in a sideways range. But as soon as the pair they run it on BREAKS out and runs 600 pips with NO RETRACE then what? BOOM!!! SO TRUST ME WHEN I SAY YOU NEED MINIMUM $10,000 per 0.01 lot traded and trading this on the EURUSD is also a disaster. You need to run it on a pair that chops up and down like the EURGBP or the AUDCAD ect... I have tested over...
thanks for your suggestion soeasy but did you read all the posts in this thread from start??? If not, please read it and then comment, because the idea here is to hedge all the positions, so even if the price trends, only money you could lose is the spread...
  • #332
  • Mar 23, 2016 3:26am Mar 23, 2016 3:26am
389 USD DEMO Profit in 14 hours.... PLEASE DO NOT REPLICATE IT ON A LIVE ACCOUNT! (Sooner or later it will be crashed by these settings.)

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  • #333
  • Mar 23, 2016 3:31am Mar 23, 2016 3:31am
Quoting MasterGuru
368 USD DEMO Profit in 14 hours.... PLEASE DO NOT REPLICATE IT ON A LIVE ACCOUNT! (Sooner or later it will be crashed by these settings.) {image}
Step 1?
  • #334
  • Mar 23, 2016 3:33am Mar 23, 2016 3:33am
Quoting marketir
{quote} Step 1?
Please see edited screenshot.
  • #335
  • Edited 4:13am Mar 23, 2016 3:51am | Edited 4:13am
Hi all,

@ Voldemar, i hope you don't mind me posting this, but i have altered your code slightly so it trades fixed lots.

Here is the fixed lot version off both experimental EA's

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File Type: mq4 remon78eg-fixlot.mq4   6 KB | 967 downloads

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File Type: mq4 remon78eg 2 Part 1-fixlot.mq4   6 KB | 1,093 downloads


Edit: i now see ghozt also offered the same solution, good job ghozt.
Persistence will get it. Consistency will keep it.
  • #336
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:41am Mar 23, 2016 4:41am
Ranging pairs/assets are obviously mandatory for this EA to be successful. Also, the fixed lot version stands the best chance of yielding consistently profitable results, be they far from certainty.

I guess assuming and containing the fact that it will blow up in certain heavily trending market conditions is part of its success. Should we throw it away just because it works ok 90% cases and it may blow up in 10% of cases? Definitely not.

So we should rather use small accounts + frequent withdrawals.
  • #337
  • Mar 23, 2016 4:58am Mar 23, 2016 4:58am
Quoting imatache
So we should rather use small accounts + frequent withdrawals.
Agreed, sounds like a good strategy.

btw, you joined FF in 2007 and this is your 3rd post? thats 1 post in every 3 years, i wonder why (seriously).
Persistence will get it. Consistency will keep it.
  • #338
  • Mar 23, 2016 5:02am Mar 23, 2016 5:02am
Quoting imatache
Ranging pairs/assets are obviously mandatory for this EA to be successful. Also, the fixed lot version stands the best chance of yielding consistently profitable results, be they far from certainty. I guess assuming and containing the fact that it will blow up in certain heavily trending market conditions is part of its success. Should we throw it away just because it works ok 90% cases and it may blow up in 10% of cases? Definitely not. So we should rather use small accounts + frequent withdrawals.
As many others (incl. me) have emphasized - due the HEDGING part - sudden market moves will not significantly impact the floating equity.
  • #339
  • Mar 23, 2016 5:13am Mar 23, 2016 5:13am
Quoting MasterGuru
{quote} As many others (incl. me) have emphasized - due the HEDGING part - sudden market moves will not significantly impact the floating equity.
  • #340
  • Mar 23, 2016 5:21am Mar 23, 2016 5:21am
Quoting tradeforlife
{quote} thanks for your suggestion soeasy but did you read all the posts in this thread from start??? If not, please read it and then comment, because the idea here is to hedge all the positions, so even if the price trends, only money you could lose is the spread...

So then this will be part B of the EA then? Okay sorry I missed that part... Take a look at what I got so far traderforlife...
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