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  • #2,921
  • Edited Mar 4, 2016 12:24am Mar 3, 2016 10:16pm | Edited Mar 4, 2016 12:24am
Quoting pipcat
{quote} Check post #2393.
I use this indi too. I find it convenient at first glance. But I ALWAYS have a look at the H4 chart, to see the real price action.
  • #2,922
  • Mar 3, 2016 10:30pm Mar 3, 2016 10:30pm
Quoting Lebaneese
{quote} ​exactly that what I am saying we need statistic for each to know the difference. filter is always filtering good and bad trades, what we need to know is the winning and loosing average with and without filter. all ideas are welcome so u can share whatever u want.

I think that the 2 filters (H4 trend and Daily candle) are very good. This is a multi-timeframe approach.
The bad trades will be filetered out and the % of winner trades will grow up.
But the number of trading opportunities will get smaller.
So sometimes we have to manage the trades as single trades , not as a basket.
So we need targets (Take Profit) where we will exit.
  • #2,923
  • Mar 3, 2016 10:35pm Mar 3, 2016 10:35pm
Quoting Elios
{quote} I think that the 2 filters (H4 trend and Daily candle) are very good. This is a multi-timeframe approach. The bad trades will be filetered out and the % of winner trades will grow up. But the number of trading opportunities will get smaller. So sometimes we have to manage the trades as single trades , not as a basket. So we need targets (Take Profit) where we will exit.
​I added Smoothtrader indicator to first post if someone interested for multi TF nonlagdot , u can see all nongladot TF on main chart.
  • #2,924
  • Mar 3, 2016 10:42pm Mar 3, 2016 10:42pm
Quoting Elios
{quote} I use this indi too. I find it convenient. But I ALWAYS have a look at the H4 chart, to see the real price action.
  • #2,925
  • Mar 4, 2016 12:24am Mar 4, 2016 12:24am
Quoting Elios
{quote} I think that the 2 filters (H4 trend and Daily candle) are very good. This is a multi-timeframe approach. The bad trades will be filetered out and the % of winner trades will grow up. But the number of trading opportunities will get smaller. So sometimes we have to manage the trades as single trades , not as a basket. So we need targets (Take Profit) where we will exit.
forget about basket trading of this method, or you will blow your account in one day.
yes, you need tp and sl, i have made a lot of work in two weekends, and i have fiend best pairs and sl with tp for each of pair.. But should i say here all what i made? noo.. coz i worked hard, i cheked pairs and enters and a lot o thinks..and not for say all this here, i made this for me and my friends with who i work on markets.
You guys, everybody must to work hard to have good resultates.
Dont wait until sombody will come and will give you all the info about how correct to trade this strategy, to be profitabile.
Sorry, but this is the true..Work hard, make analyses on the history of enteres on m30, in the same time you must to see where was h4 last dot on this signals, then take the average of every trade in trend, and fiend best tp for each pair.
Iven if you have D1,H4 in the same direction with your m30 entery point, you steel can loose money.
  • #2,926
  • Mar 4, 2016 12:34am Mar 4, 2016 12:34am
Quoting nunrgguy
{quote}

When I am searching for trading opportunities (scanning) among the 28 currency pairs, it is convenient to have on the M30 chart the H4 trend by using the indi.
But before I take a trade, I study it further. So I look at it from different perspectives. This is the moment when I look at the H4 chart, to see the real price action there.
Hope this make sense.
  • #2,927
  • Mar 4, 2016 12:38am Mar 4, 2016 12:38am
Quoting shum
{quote} forget about basket trading of this method, or you will blow your account in one day. yes, you need tp and sl, i have made a lot of work in two weekends, and i have fiend best pairs and sl with tp for each of pair.. But should i say here all what i made? noo.. coz i worked hard, i cheked pairs and enters and a lot o thinks..and not for say all this here, i made this for me and my friends with who i work on markets. You guys, everybody must to work hard to have good resultates. Dont wait until sombody will come and will give you all the info...
I do not need your strategy nor will i ask for it.

But you my sir sound like a hypocrite.You say do it all yourself and has to be your own hard work, but you use someone else strategy you found here!

And if its all your own work and nobody else then why are you on this thread??? And why make pointless comments? Perhaps your just need to talk yourself up on blogs like this to make yourself feel better??

And "Blow your account in one day"? Well, then you obviously don't know anything about money management. If you can blow your account in way day with any strategy, id say you probably should not be trading and should stay in your job.
  • #2,928
  • Mar 4, 2016 12:40am Mar 4, 2016 12:40am
Quoting shum
{quote} meaby for you and other no, for me yes, i will trade this strategy just from london open, and to the end of it. probably the jpy pairs are good on asia sesion, but not usd pairs for sure.. whay to stay and work in the night too?, if you can make a lot of pips in the day.. i dont understand this, but you can trade when you whant.. for me its a work from 8 to 18..
Read the my comment correctly if you are able to.

I was talking about this strategy not anyone's personal trading method....
  • #2,929
  • Mar 4, 2016 12:49am Mar 4, 2016 12:49am
Quoting mrhigurashi
I do not need your strategy nor will i ask for it. But you my sir sound like a hypocrite.You say do it all yourself and has to be your own hard work, but you use someone else strategy you found here! And if its all your own work and nobody else then why are you on this thread??? And why make pointless comments? Perhaps your just need to talk yourself up on blogs like this to make yourself feel better??
the strategy what was input here, from the begining its about basket trading of this method..
then i read that sombody start to work with h4 direction too, this was logical for me..
so i start to analyse market on this way, to fiend best enteres, based on this two timeframes... but without sl and tp, you will never be profitabile. I spend a lot of yers on trading markets, and i lost( pay) a lot of money( you have no idea how much money) to learn a lot of thinks about trading..
And now i use my knology to understand if this sistem can work in a long time. Yes it works, but you need tp and sl, fiend them by your self, nobody pay me for the weekends what i spend on markets to make this m30 enteres profitabile. I just come and say, guys, its work, but its work on single pairs, with tp and sal, for each pairs this tp its different. Rest of work its up to you..dont wait that sombady will give you the grale.
I entere here post some my resultates, and i say that its work, but put tp..that its all. So i repeat, fiend tp, make analyses..and stop to say shits like this comentary mr higurashi.
  • #2,930
  • Mar 4, 2016 12:58am Mar 4, 2016 12:58am
Quoting mrhigurashi
{quote} And "Blow your account in one day"? Well, then you obviously don't know anything about money management. If you can blow your account in way day with any strategy, id say you probably should not be trading and should stay in your job.
i know more than you think, i trade baskets the last 3 years, when i say that you can blow your account in one day, i mean, that you can be profitabile 1-2 weeks and in the third one, in monday for exemple, you will trade your basket, and its wil fuk all your profit and meaby account. 95% of traders dont know what is manymanagement, and dont know that is most important part of trading, so when i say this to Elios, i supose that that he is one of this 95% of traders, basket trading its more hard than sigle pair, and to blow account for newbes in this way, its too easy..
and this is my job for the last 5 years, my risky are 2% from accounts..i am not a gambler. Read my lust posts on this thread.
  • #2,931
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:01am Mar 4, 2016 1:01am
Quoting shum
{quote} forget about basket trading of this method, or you will blow your account in one day. yes, you need tp and sl, i have made a lot of work in two weekends, and i have fiend best pairs and sl with tp for each of pair.. But should i say here all what i made? noo.. coz i worked hard, i cheked pairs and enters and a lot o thinks..and not for say all this here, i made this for me and my friends with who i work on markets. You guys, everybody must to work hard to have good resultates. Dont wait until sombody will come and will give you all the info...
We all participate in this thread not only to learn from Mr Lebannese strategy but to make his strategy better also. He asked for our help, in his experimentation with 2 new filters.
Shum you have to tell your opinion about how to make this strategy better.
Personaly I use fibo levels and pivot lines for targets.
  • #2,932
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:05am Mar 4, 2016 1:05am
Quoting Elios
{quote} We all participate in this thread not only to learn from Mr Lebannese strategy but to make his strategy better also. He asked for our help, in his experimentation with 2 new filters. Shum you have to tell your opinion about how to make this strategy better. Personaly I use fibo levels and pivot lines for targets.
i say what to doo..make analyses on the history, for the last 4 months, chek every enter on m30, with color dot on prevew h4 candel close..this is it, then take the average of every enter, how much pips its make for all the day, for exemple form london opne and to the close of it..
i say all this some posts back, but its sims that nowbody read this, you whant for me exact tp and resultates..yes i have all this, but how about you? wooooork!
  • #2,933
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:18am Mar 4, 2016 1:18am
Quoting mrhigurashi
{quote} Your comment: " i worked hard, i cheked pairs and enters and a lot o thinks..and not for say all this here, i made this for me and my friends with who i work on markets. You guys, everybody must to work hard to have good resultates. Dont wait until sombody will come and will give you all the info..." You did not make the NLD indicator. You did not create the strategy to trade it. But you say this? Im not sure if you understand the word "hypocrite" but this is you sir. If you don't have a strategy to share and discuss then why are you writing...
i dont care what you think about me, and what is you position, when you will start to make money, then come and speak with me about how right you are. I impruve here my help, just saying to the traders what to do. Dont wait all reslultates form somebody, make some work too.. wtf, for you its hard to make analyses on history? to spend a few weekend on this? omg, this is about money, this is about work hard and discipline, i tray to teach peoples to make right thinks what will help them to make they,r trading live more easy, and this is about to work, to spend time in analises, i just say the way, and you mfker dont whant to do iven that, you whant from sombody to do this, and you just take the best from it, the money...pf..
you are not a trader, you are a gambler..so f..off please.
  • #2,934
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:25am Mar 4, 2016 1:25am
Quoting shum
{quote} i say what to doo..make analyses on the history, for the last 4 months, chek every enter on m30, with color dot on prevew h4 candel close..this is it, then take the average of every enter, how much pips its make for all the day, for exemple form london opne and to the close of it.. i say all this some posts back, but its sims that nowbody read this, you whant for me exact tp and resultates..yes i have all this, but how about you? wooooork!
You suppose that I am newbie. You suppose that I am lazy and I dont work hard. You suppose that I am begging for your findings.
Nothing from the above is truth.
  • #2,935
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:26am Mar 4, 2016 1:26am
Quoting shum
{quote} i know more than you think, i trade baskets the last 3 years, when i say that you can blow your account in one day, i mean, that you can be profitabile 1-2 weeks and in the third one, in monday for exemple, you will trade your basket, and its wil fuk all your profit and meaby account. 95% of traders dont know what is manymanagement, and dont know that is most important part of trading, so when i say this to Elios, i supose that that he is one of this 95% of traders, basket trading its more hard than sigle pair, and to blow account for newbes...
​Shum , let me answer all your questions.
First being selfish isn't something good believe me , for long term you will need help at some point.
You find your own way is something perfect , you did a great job and I am so happy for you, not sharing is also up to you.
Trading basket like all do will kill you, but it seems for me that u didn't read my thread well u just jump at the end of the thread.
1-I trade basket with STOP LOSS not like all do with balance.
2-i have a fix weekly target could be reached in 1 hour or in 2 days .
if u respect those rules u will never blow up an account in basket trading.
  • #2,936
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:29am Mar 4, 2016 1:29am
Quoting shum
{quote} i dont care what you think about me, and what is you position, when you will start to make money, then come and speak with me about how right you are. I impruve here my help, just saying to the traders what to do. Dont wait all reslultates form somebody, make some work too.. wtf, for you its hard to make analyses on history? to spend a few weekend on this? omg, this is about money, this is about work hard and discipline, i tray to teach peoples to make right thinks what will help them to make they,r trading live more easy, and this is about...
​Shum respect others please so they will respect you. No one will ask you about your work , you are free to be generous or selfish. Just keep it clean and helpful as much as u can. Thank you in advance.
  • #2,937
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:31am Mar 4, 2016 1:31am
Quoting Elios
{quote} You suppose that I am newbie. You suppose that I am lazy and I dont work hard. You suppose that I am begging for your findings. Nothing from the above is truth.
i dont supose anything about this, i supose that you are newbe in basket trading, coz you speak about it, i say from the begin when i come to this thread, that basket is not the right way for this system, exist periods when you will be hard fuk..in range market, and this is hapening to much times, i know what about i speak..
  • #2,938
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:38am Mar 4, 2016 1:38am
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...20#post8790320

that what I was exactly saying Shum , if to filter trades we cant trade it like basket trading we need a SL and TP for each trade. Different MM will be if using the second version of the system. I still don't have any statistic for it and no TP and SL for it but will work on it and post it for all . AND IT WILL BE FREE.
  • #2,939
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:39am Mar 4, 2016 1:39am
Quoting Lebaneese
{quote} ​Shum , let me answer all your questions. First being selfish isn't something good believe me , for long term you will need help at some point. You find your own way is something perfect , you did a great job and I am so happy for you, not sharing is also up to you. Trading basket like all do will kill you, but it seems for me that u didn't read my thread well u just jump at the end of the thread. 1-I trade basket with STOP LOSS not like all do with balance. 2-i have a fix weekly target could be reached in 1 hour or in 2 days . if...
hi mate, i just dont know how much time you trade the baskets, i spend 3 years on them, for shure you can yearn money if you know when to stop..Now the market have a good volatility, but in the range market.. 2-3 losses, and you will must to start all from the begin, and i ashure you, that period will come. so in my vewe, for the guys who didnt trade baskets, please do it on demo, in a long period, or move to the single pair and tray to take less pips without big risky and lot of open trades.
  • #2,940
  • Mar 4, 2016 1:46am Mar 4, 2016 1:46am
Quoting Lebaneese
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...20#post8790320 that what I was exactly saying Shum , if to filter trades we cant trade it like basket trading we need a SL and TP for each trade. Different MM will be if using the second version of the system. I still don't have any statistic for it and no TP and SL for it but will work on it and post it for all . AND IT WILL BE FREE.
i think you make inaf work, your students must to be invoved in this too, they must to help you, this is not mean that they will make for you a system and you will desapeare or somthing like this.. Its about to lern somthing right, to doo analyses..This is good for all, to make the right work, its about learnig, not just how to trading, but how to work in the right way..thisd is what i whant form the traders.
If somebody was readind my posts, they will fiend that i put on two pairs the tp i use..but i didnt put accent on it, i whant that the smarter of them take this info and use it.. But its sims, that nobody whant to work..i specialy was doing it on this way...
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