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  • #181
  • Mar 1, 2016 10:52am Mar 1, 2016 10:52am
Quoting atheer1
{quote} *** who is entering the others zone deeper? *** who is closing deeper in the other zone ? *** who is hitting the most important defense line of the others ?
New rules in mpost #180..

,........ And yet you call this simple, over and over again type of a thing..
My Currency is Urgency
  • #182
  • Mar 1, 2016 10:58am Mar 1, 2016 10:58am
Quoting atheer1
{quote} Don't worry The answer is that buy will win the range.....................forgive me if I am wrong

And also, what zones are the buyers targeting? Rem, in earlier posts, when you told about euro that its targetin 1.09 something zone...
My Currency is Urgency
  • #183
  • Mar 1, 2016 11:13am Mar 1, 2016 11:13am
Quoting Forexmint
{quote} New rules in mpost #180.. ,........ And yet you call this simple, over and over again type of a thing..

Nothing is complex.It is simple..............
The problem is that no one spoke that before.....why .....?
The answer is to keep many traders in blurred vision
atheer1
  • #184
  • Mar 1, 2016 11:20am Mar 1, 2016 11:20am
Quoting Forexmint
{quote} And also, what zones are the buyers targeting? Rem, in earlier posts, when you told about euro that its targetin 1.09 something zone...
I remember that I said it is targeting 1.09-1.0920,and I was speaking with another trader that the euro will break down after the news so I mentioned the target of this move that day and it was reached to the line...............
atheer1
  • #185
  • Mar 1, 2016 11:28am Mar 1, 2016 11:28am
Quoting atheer1
{quote} Nothing is complex.It is simple.............. The problem is that no one spoke that before.....why .....? The answer is to keep many traders in blurred vision
I did speak. Many times. About things not being comprehensive. A system works only when it is in a whole. You are the master as you know the whole of it. What we learners make up from all the scattered talk in this thread, is a broken system which gives poor results. Thats why i and some other trader i saw, requested you to make a writeup with illustration on the chart, each and every step.


Also, dont ypu have the target zones as you had for that euro trade?
My Currency is Urgency
  • #186
  • Mar 1, 2016 11:36am Mar 1, 2016 11:36am
Quoting Forexmint
{quote} And also, what zones are the buyers targeting? Rem, in earlier posts, when you told about euro that its targetin 1.09 something zone...

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  • #187
  • Mar 1, 2016 11:41am Mar 1, 2016 11:41am
Quoting Forexmint
{quote} And also, what zones are the buyers targeting? Rem, in earlier posts, when you told about euro that its targetin 1.09 something zone...
YES 1.4040-1.4060
atheer1
  • #188
  • Mar 1, 2016 12:39pm Mar 1, 2016 12:39pm
Quoting atheer1
{quote} YES 1.4040-1.4060
Great. Thanks. Now tell us where the targets are depictd on the chart.
My Currency is Urgency
  • #189
  • Mar 1, 2016 12:59pm Mar 1, 2016 12:59pm
Quoting Forexmint
{quote} I did speak. Many times. About things not being comprehensive. A system works only when it is in a whole. You are the master as you know the whole of it. What we learners make up from all the scattered talk in this thread, is a broken system which gives poor results. Thats why i and some other trader i saw, requested you to make a writeup with illustration on the chart, each and every step. Also, dont ypu have the target zones as you had for that euro trade?
Hi Forexmint

I dont think that the intention of Mr Atheer is to teach us how he trades. His thread is in the Trading discusion group and not in the trading systems group. So I think he wants to teach the way he sees the charts and the flow of price action. Not the details of his trading system. So you mustn't see post 180 as rules of a trading system, but as a way to interpret the charts and understand the price movement.
  • #190
  • Mar 1, 2016 1:26pm Mar 1, 2016 1:26pm
Quoting Elios
{quote} Hi Forexmint I dont think that the intention of Mr Atheer is to teach us how he trades. His thread is in the Trading discusion group and not in the trading systems group. So I think he wants to teach the way he sees the charts and the flow of price action. Not the details of his trading system. So you mustn't see post 180 as rules of a trading system, but as a way to interpret the charts and understand the price movement.

I advise you strongly to read the first page of the thread..
My Currency is Urgency
  • #191
  • Mar 1, 2016 1:31pm Mar 1, 2016 1:31pm
Quoting atheer1
HELLO, I received some massages in private that my way of explaining the subject is not good..................that I am guessing the market..............And that if I am busy why I did start this work at all............... I want others opinion about this
Hi Atheer, first of all, thanks for sharing. You do what you do here to help, how and when you do it depends on your schedule. No one has a right to make demands on your time.
Thanks once again.
  • #192
  • Mar 1, 2016 2:04pm Mar 1, 2016 2:04pm
Quoting shiva
{quote} Hi Atheer, first of all, thanks for sharing. You do what you do here to help, how and when you do it depends on your schedule. No one has a right to make demands on your time. Thanks once again.
It is an honor to have respectful member like you in my thread,thank you for your words.
atheer1
  • #193
  • Mar 1, 2016 3:26pm Mar 1, 2016 3:26pm
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  • #194
  • Mar 1, 2016 3:49pm Mar 1, 2016 3:49pm
important:

types of the candles in relation to the lines

type 1: A bull candle with a lower thread extending into other zone(s)( i mean by the zones areas between lines not zones of 2 candles ) below the candle open zone,or a bear candle with upper thread extending into other zone(s) above the candle open zone.

type 2: A bull candle without a lower thread or with a thread but not extending as in 1,or a bear candle without upper thread or with a thread but not extending as in 1.

type 3: Candles which don't apply to 1 or 2

we will come to this as time permit
atheer1
  • #195
  • Mar 1, 2016 4:26pm Mar 1, 2016 4:26pm
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  • #196
  • Mar 1, 2016 4:31pm Mar 1, 2016 4:31pm
THIS IS LINE LANGUAGE

FOREXMINT

YOU NEED TIME AND PRACTICE TO LEARN A LANGUAGE,DON'T YOU?
atheer1
  • #197
  • Mar 1, 2016 4:31pm Mar 1, 2016 4:31pm
Hi atheer1

At the beginning I would like to say thank you for your willing of teach us how trade successfully, with no bazillions indicators. I read your topic from beginning, try to catch you tips and apply them in real trades (demo account for now). Still some thing are unclear for me. But I hope they will disappear with time as more information I will digest from your tread.

I have got few question if you dont mind:

1. 1st image - What is the reason you have marked zone up to 3rd bullish candle not up 2nd candle as usually (orange lines)?
2. 2nd image - At that particular moment of time as it is in screenshot (please see 2nd image) can I use the zone at left hand side to confirm bearish setup (circled candles) if it breaks zone below?

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Thank you in advance and I am looking forward for more your post in here.

Cheers
  • #198
  • Mar 1, 2016 5:10pm Mar 1, 2016 5:10pm
Quoting pawelfx
hi atheer1 at the beginning i would like to say thank you for your willing of teach us how trade successfully, with no bazillions indicators. I read your topic from beginning, try to catch you tips and apply them in real trades (demo account for now). Still some thing are unclear for me. But i hope they will disappear with time as more information i will digest from your tread. I have got few question if you dont mind: 1. 1st image - what is the reason you have marked zone up to 3rd bullish candle not up 2nd candle as usually (orange lines)? 2....
1- zones are reversal or breakout zones,i marked the 2nd and 3rd candles because its a breakout zone from the previous downward move...............
2-second question not clear
atheer1
  • #199
  • Mar 1, 2016 6:48pm Mar 1, 2016 6:48pm
Quoting atheer1
{quote} 1- zones are reversal or breakout zones,i marked the 2nd and 3rd candles because its a breakout zone from the previous downward move............... 2-second question not clear
Thank you for your answer. I will try put question no.2 in the different way:

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In the blue circle there are two consecutive candles which may be reversal signal(we dont know that yet). Is the zone no.2 plotted right (as projection/extension of zone no.1 as same as your example on chart no.1 you posted on page no.1)? Is it alright? Is it how you should do it?

Lets assume the arrows 3 and 4 are next bearish candles. Candle no.4(arrow 4) break zone 2 and we have potential reversal move. Would you take a trade afrer candle no.4 break zone no.2 or not because close neighbor with buy zone (no.5) ? So to take sell trade would you have to wait for price to break zone no.5 as well?

Hope all that make more sense now

Thanks !
  • #200
  • Mar 2, 2016 1:07am Mar 2, 2016 1:07am
Quoting pawelfx
{quote} Thank you for your answer. I will try put question no.2 in the different way: {image} In the blue circle there are two consecutive candles which may be reversal signal(we dont know that yet). Is the zone no.2 plotted right (as projection/extension of zone no.1 as same as your example on chart no.1 you posted on page no.1)? Is it alright? Is it how you should do it? Lets assume the arrows 3 and 4 are next bearish candles. Candle no.4(arrow 4) break zone 2 and we have potential reversal move. Would you take a trade afrer candle no.4 break...
*** we take trades based on reactions of the current price or candles to previous zones..............

*** it depends on your view to the price whether a reaction to certain zone is enough to take the trade or not...............so risk appetite is important in addition to candles themselves

*** Your drawing of zones can not be judged right or wrong if you are not using the lines as a way of marking zone not the high or low......

*** in chart no 1 I projected the zone from 23 Oct to 28 Oct not because another zone equal to that on the left side but to show reaction of current price to the zone at left
atheer1
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