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  • #361
  • Feb 3, 2016 1:00pm Feb 3, 2016 1:00pm
Also, what I meant was what happened to the Renko BB EA? Was it successful?
  • #362
  • Feb 3, 2016 2:25pm Feb 3, 2016 2:25pm
Quoting MathTrader7
{quote} Download the last version from Post 351.
Dear MathTrader,

I would like to thank you very much for all the work you have done for your fans here despite your busy schedule. I was a quiet reader over the forum until I came over to your various threads.

I would like to ask you for 2 favors.
1) Can you release the RenkoStreetEA 1.91 so we can just try it out? Would like to test it out since you are a little busy now.
2) Is it possible to do a quick sharing of how the logic of RenkoADX works? Hope it is not to complex for you to share directly.

I am also reading on a few different methodology to incorporate into Renko. I will share it here when I'm more done on them and maybe you can hook it up Renko!

RenkoLover
  • #363
  • Feb 4, 2016 4:34am Feb 4, 2016 4:34am
Quoting DrBasemFx
Hello MathTrader7 , I try MathTrader7_RenkoADX_EA , it looks promising results , kindly whenever you have time if could add time filter and Trailing Stop it will be more profitable . during Japan session market don't move strongly which give much loss , but during London & America sessions EA working good due to much volatility. thanks a lot for your help and your time Best Regards ,
Hi DrBasemFx,

Nice to hear that its give profit to you, but for me its not opening any trade. I'm placed in Exness (Demo account). Could you share about your broker?

Regards
  • #364
  • Edited Feb 7, 2016 11:38am Feb 6, 2016 12:17pm | Edited Feb 7, 2016 11:38am
For those who are interested to know what is the probability that the next 10 pips Renko brick would be bullish/bearish given what the previous is, here is an interesting result of probability estimation that I performed over four years of Renko bricks, EURUSD, made from real ticks.

Bullish Probability Distribution:
P(Bull|Bull) = 0.66199859
P(Bull|Bear) = 0.33447924

Bearish Probability Distribution:
P(Bear|Bear) = 0.66552076
P(Bear|Bull) = 0.33800141

Statistically it says that if we open buy/sell positions in accordance with the previous Renko brick the probability to take profit at the end of the brickis as twice as losing. Sadly, since a reverse Renko brick size is as twice as a normal Renko brick, this strategy would be breakeven!
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  • #365
  • Feb 6, 2016 2:24pm Feb 6, 2016 2:24pm
Quoting MathTrader7
For those who are interested to know what is the conditional probability that the next 10 pips Renko brick would be bullish/bearish given what the previous is, here is an interesting result of probability estimation that I performed over four years of Renko bricks, EURUSD, made from real ticks. Bullish Probability Distribution: P(Bull|Bull) = 0.66199859 P(Bull|Bear) = 0.33447924 Bearish Probability Distribution: P(Bear|Bear) = 0.66552076 P(Bear|Bull) = 0.33800141 Statistically it says that if we open buy/sell positions in accordance with the previous...
Interesting !
That's why you should let the winner run for 3-4 candles and cut losses if you get an opposite candle
  • #366
  • Feb 6, 2016 2:59pm Feb 6, 2016 2:59pm
Quoting MathTrader7
For those who are interested to know what is the conditional probability that the next 10 pips Renko brick would be bullish/bearish given what the previous is, here is an interesting result of probability estimation that I performed over four years of Renko bricks, EURUSD, made from real ticks. Bullish Probability Distribution: P(Bull|Bull) = 0.66199859 P(Bull|Bear) = 0.33447924 Bearish Probability Distribution: P(Bear|Bear) = 0.66552076 P(Bear|Bull) = 0.33800141 Statistically it says that if we open buy/sell positions in accordance with the previous...
This probability is basically UpBar = 1-((BrickSize / (BrickSize +ReverseBrickSize))

So as a result 1-(10/(10+20))=1-0.333 = 0.6667

Which proves that the markets are random walk with a drift (as trend)....

This is just math, no historical statistics.
  • #367
  • Feb 7, 2016 7:42am Feb 7, 2016 7:42am
Renko is following the coin-toss pattern from a statistical view, there is no reason why it should not. But many have been fooled by Renko charts constructed from coarse data sets with a help of linear interpolation. Such Renko charts have higher probability of a candle placed with the trend.
  • #368
  • Feb 8, 2016 8:34am Feb 8, 2016 8:34am
I need help. that do not match the basktest with demo
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  • #369
  • Feb 8, 2016 10:09am Feb 8, 2016 10:09am
Quoting damian78
I need help. that do not match the basktest with demo {image} {image}
You cannot blindly backtest the Renko like the cadlesticks chart, as the Renko does not meet usual candlestick rules. The most annoying thing is it relocates open on some candles, the less annoying is that it may print phantom bricks (inside gaps) and additional one is that open and close prices are pure artificial levels, which might not have happened.
If you want to get a bit closer, your EA should not work with open price (but rather with close), and your testing chart should have wicks, and should not show relocated open.
i.e for Renko it should look change that:
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and for the mean Renko like that:
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  • #370
  • Feb 8, 2016 10:11am Feb 8, 2016 10:11am
Ive been testing this ea for a week soon. After I shut down the two(of eight) not profitable charts gbpusd and usdjpy it starated beeing profitable..''

What frustrates me is that it goes back to 8$(80pips) profit before taking profit, instead of just going back one or two bricks before closing a trade. So even if its up at 300 pips in profit it still waits til its back at 80pips profit before it closes. Why not just implement the normal renko trade close strategy, one bar back before 8 bricks in the same direction and two bricks back after more than 8 bricks in the same direction?

Like its coded right now it makes room for a huge improvement by just manually closing out orders that are pending above 8$(80pips) at lot size 0,1
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  • #371
  • Edited 10:04pm Feb 8, 2016 9:51pm | Edited 10:04pm
Hello Math,

What EA at your profil picture?

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are this still in Renko EA?
  • #372
  • Edited 6:52am Feb 9, 2016 5:01am | Edited 6:52am
Quoting tapyoung
Hello Math, What EA at your profil picture? {image} are this still in Renko EA?
Hi tapyoung,

This EA is not trading on Renko charts. It is a trend following EA backtested on EURUSD, H1 chart. The trading idea of this EA is to add to positions at retracements where a trained Hidden Markov Model switches between Bullish, Bearish and Flat states (that is a way of market regime change detection).

Best,
Math
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  • #373
  • Feb 9, 2016 6:05am Feb 9, 2016 6:05am
If somebody is interested for my Inverse Bollinger Bands indicator.
Idea is trading Renko only outside bands - inside is great for scalping.
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  • #374
  • Feb 9, 2016 10:09am Feb 9, 2016 10:09am
What about the probability on openong a trade after 3bricks in a row?


Quoting MathTrader7
For those who are interested to know what is the probability that the next 10 pips Renko brick would be bullish/bearish given what the previous is, here is an interesting result of probability estimation that I performed over four years of Renko bricks, EURUSD, made from real ticks. Bullish Probability Distribution: P(Bull|Bull) = 0.66199859 P(Bull|Bear) = 0.33447924 Bearish Probability Distribution: P(Bear|Bear) = 0.66552076 P(Bear|Bull) = 0.33800141 Statistically it says that if we open buy/sell positions in accordance with the previous Renko...
  • #375
  • Feb 9, 2016 10:24am Feb 9, 2016 10:24am
Quoting MathTrader7
{quote} Hi tapyoung, This EA is not trading on Renko charts. It is a trend following EA backtested on EURUSD, H1 chart. The trading idea of this EA is to add to positions at retracements where a trained Hidden Markov Model switches between Bullish, Bearish and Flat states (that is a way of market regime change detection). Best, Math
Hello Math,
Do you have an ea which triggers buy orders at the bid but fill them at the ask ? Im asking because when trading renko your entries need to be exact yet sometimes the widening of the spread can trigger your orders despite the bid not reaching your order level.
  • #376
  • Feb 9, 2016 2:10pm Feb 9, 2016 2:10pm
Quoting miro1360
If somebody is interested for my Inverse Bollinger Bands indicator. Idea is trading Renko only outside bands - inside is great for scalping. {image} {file}
Thanks for sharing your indicator. I'll check it.
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  • #377
  • Feb 9, 2016 3:24pm Feb 9, 2016 3:24pm
Quoting MathTrader7
{quote} Thanks for sharing your indicator. I'll check it.
you can open with inverse and close with classical bands, but I did not checked this strategy in details.
I can share with you code, you can improve it with your way.
  • #378
  • Feb 10, 2016 6:16am Feb 10, 2016 6:16am
@MathTrader7
What software are you using to create your EAs?
  • #379
  • Feb 10, 2016 6:19am Feb 10, 2016 6:19am
Quoting noland
@MathTrader7 What software are you using to create your EAs?
Meta Editor
http://www.metatrader4.com/en/automa...ing/metaeditor
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  • #380
  • Feb 12, 2016 12:13pm Feb 12, 2016 12:13pm
I am testing Renko with Heiken Ashi on different time frame charts , the one attached is on a 4hour chart, it works , nice and simple..

Has anyone else tried different time frames ?
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