Weekly = 10080
Daily = 1440
Daily = 1440
Trading system using relative strength
- #2,602
- Dec 15, 2015 3:46pm Dec 15, 2015 3:46pm
{quote} Wow. We've got a new interest here. It's good to see someone new in this thread. First, as i said before: please read CCFp and CC. Link 1, link 2. This is the first discussions on them brought up by Simeon Semenych - the creator of those indicator. ### The second indicator is CC (Complex_Common). It is an impulse, or signal indicator. It is very sensitive and quickly reacts on the price movements. ### That's why the signals are not the same....
Good day, thanks for links that you posted earlier.
I would like to know the functions of reversal option in ccfp_diff indicator.
And another one, do you have CC and CFP original indicator ? I've download from the original link but its not showing.
Looking forward for your reply.
Regards,
- #2,604
- Dec 15, 2015 4:15pm Dec 15, 2015 4:15pm
trader1234 - a problem with placing orders so close to the daily open (middle of the night) is that, in my case, the spreads are a lot larger!
These are what my indicator are showing for the new daily candle, but i don't think they've changed at all from yesterdays.
These are what my indicator are showing for the new daily candle, but i don't think they've changed at all from yesterdays.
trader1234 - a problem with placing orders so close to the daily open (middle of the night) is that, in my case, the spreads are a lot larger! These are what my indicator are showing for the new daily candle, but i don't think they've changed at all from yesterdays. {image}
I am still experimenting with the mtf version, and it does seem to give different signals even when the settings are the same.
- #2,609
- Dec 16, 2015 2:55am Dec 16, 2015 2:55am
{quote} Hi, Selamat Tengahari. To answer your questions, one needs to know: 1. Difference between CCFp and CC indicator. 2. What is the formulation/calculation inside of the CCFp-Diff and CC-Diff? I already explained it in earlier post. Ask if you need more clarification. 3. Difference between CCFp-Diff MTF and CC-Diff MTF vs CCFp-Diff and CC-Diff. About reverse options, it once known that Paris Hilton first suggested it in this...
Thanks for the wonderful explanation..
You mentioned you trade scalping 15 min, could you share your strategy? Roughly how many pips you gain using this method?
Regards
{quote} Salam Redwed. Thanks for the wonderful explanation..
I've tried the system before earlier in August, please read my earlier post in this thread starting from pg. 125. My friend also tried them and felt very happy with them. The pips are a lot. Just needed the right trend to start with.
As you can see from my screenshot, i'm just playing with m15,m30,h4 setting vs m15,m30 vs m15,h1. All trade level is 1. Both CCFp-Diff MTF and CC-Diff MTF is in my screen as you can see. I'm tweaking it to be mine. Comparing them all 6 will take much of my time.
I caught some screenshots of most of them and tried to formulate my own approach. Read some of my earlier post, and you'll find some great setup (especially on GBPNZD).
Read on them, and choose your own destiny!
- #2,611
- Dec 16, 2015 3:06am Dec 16, 2015 3:06am
{quote} For current being, i'm not able to forward testing this method. I've tried the system before earlier in August, please read my earlier post in this thread starting from pg. 125. My friend also tried them and felt very happy with them. The pips are a lot. Just needed the right trend to start with. As you can see from my screenshot, i'm just playing with m15,m30,h4 setting vs m15,m30 vs m15,h1. All trade level is 1. Both CCFp-Diff MTF and CC-Diff MTF is in my screen as you can see. I'm tweaking it to be mine. I caught some screenshots of most...
- #2,613
- Dec 16, 2015 3:48am Dec 16, 2015 3:48am
- Joined Dec 2010 | Status: Foook Bollinger-dr.Kegel knows! | 9,794 Posts
- #2,614
- Dec 16, 2015 5:51am Dec 16, 2015 5:51am
{quote} hi r there are no source code of this two indicators people are using right? the only source code is the initial source code from simeon semenych on mq5/4 forum right? Do you have information in which way Ferru did this .ex4 upgrade of this, perhaps some coder could do MQ4 file and we could try to automate this to have better info how to play this. Any takers? As said earlier in this thread. Everything needs to be measured. {quote}
You need to manually times 1000 in the excel as Pipo didn't include this in his excel. There could be some rounding issue (rarely happen), i think this was mentioned by Ferrux in early post.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Regards
{quote} hi r there are no source code of this two indicators people are using right? the only source code is the initial source code from simeon semenych on mq5/4 forum right? Do you have information in which way Ferru did this .ex4 upgrade of this, perhaps some coder could do MQ4 file and we could try to automate this to have better info how to play this. Any takers? As said earlier in this thread. Everything needs to be measured. {quote}
In the early days of this system Ferru was asked to include the 'reverse option', until ES Trader stepped in and asked for the 'reversal option' to be removed (in order to respect the original way the system was).
See any similarity in image attached?
All the ferru's work are mainly in ex4 files. CCFp-Diff did not call for external CCFp to do the calculations, he made the CCFp-Diff a stand-alone indicator in our mt4.
CCFp-Diff is another way to say CCFp-Difference that means: *** It calculates the difference between the 2 previous bars for each currency based on the exact same CCFp calculation. *** It keeps expanding until it become its final version that is MTF v2.0. However the indicator (CCFp-Diff) right then was sold *** but he sold the rights to a company that doesn't exist anymore (website defunct so I presume the company was closed as well). ***
As i said before, i already achieved somewhat a degree of success before this (more than 10% per day on 0.03 lots for 3 consecutive days). The only problem is: i keep changing my trading system up until now. I have never been in more pips (and easier) than this. I'm trying to share what i know about this indicator. Now i have some friends to do this experiment with me, it will get easier for me to collect some statistics.
We all know that we can't backtest CCFp-Diff/CC-Diff! So, what we need to do is forward test. Therefore it will take some time to agree on something. That's why i asked others to show their past results too, so that we can all together discuss.
I guess this system is good as any other trend following system. The only problem is: how to manage our DD given that the fact we're trying to handle basketful of pairs in our hand. Some pairs might be volatile than the other one and lack of knowledge of other pairs might ruin our basket.
I also believed that "everything needs to be measured", but this got to be a big problem. We're in public thread and I'm sure not all of us have the same idea as i am. I'm measuring data within m15 signals, and some others might opt to swing-trading in h4 or even d1 chart.
ES trader himself was using this same trading system until his last post in 2013. It have been 5 years up until then.
- #2,616
- Dec 16, 2015 7:13am Dec 16, 2015 7:13am
- Joined Dec 2010 | Status: Foook Bollinger-dr.Kegel knows! | 9,794 Posts
{quote} I think Ferru just take strength and weakness ....
{quote} Ferru did not make any amendments to the CCFp formula as far as i know. He leaves it as it is. I believe he respect other's formula as it is. In the early days of this system Ferru was asked to include the 'reverse option', until ES Trader stepped in and asked for the 'reversal option' to be removed (in order to respect the original way the system was). See any similarity in image attached? {image} All the ferru's work are mainly in ex4 files. CCFp-Diff did not call for external CCFp to do the calculations, he made the CCFp-Diff a stand-alone...
..great to see someone with similar view and 110% engagement to this matter. Im lurking behind in the shadows on all similar threads concerning XXX-indexes and in last few years testing A LOT of stuff.
As you nicely put it, you believe in this because this system can give you awesome results, but problem are DD. On additional note you say, that you continuesly re-model your initial settings and 3 days or even 3 months testing wont give you any idea what your system is worth.
Believe me. I have systems on forward testing for 1,5y and what I know now is different what I knew from when system were tested 8 months.
That is why it is essenital, that you move towards statistical testing of ideas - wheareas you can pick as many as you want in forward testing. Thereafter you will get another picture, which will be different from what we believe in now.
Then the real struggle comes in, whereas you are dealt with filtering the bad trades and skipping a lot of missed chances.
Always prepared to work with people like you.
Redweed, the problem is, as your post shows, people have a losing run then they're onto the next system/indicator etc I still don't really understand these indicators on this thread but unless you test it on one set of parameters for at least 3 months, preferably a year, then you'll never know if it gives you an edge or not. It's why these system threads drag on and within a dozen pages the systems are totally different from the OP's original. Everybody to their own at the end of the day, if people just want their screenshots to look pretty without...
Fact 2: I already mentioned a few times already. Read up the simeon semenych's articles. You'll find better understanding if you read through them first before applying every indicators in this thread. I also explained it in a long post before this.
Fact 3: You want to ask me to test the indicator for at least 3 months, or even a year? Are you paying my salary for that?
Fact 4: The OP's itself evolved from the very first date (late 2008) until early 2013 in this thread. Do you follow what the forexhard taught to ES Trader in this thread? ES Trader humbly accepted to be a student to forexhard in the public forum thread (not in PM as we can see).
Fact 5: You are making fun of me posting results of trades here. But you yourself being pessimist will bring the system down before one even tries it.
This post shows you've only read the rules on the first post. Dismissing all the progress (5 years period until last post by ES Trader).
In this post, you said that you're already get your 1000 TP. But, you moved up the tp to bigger amount.
Later you asked this. I already said many times before: the ea mean to be a trade manager. You can use MPTM if you wanted to or any other trade manager you could find. And later you asked others about the dashboard in this post.
I believe that you won't even bother to read my posts 125-129.
A very good semi scalping method. This comment was made 7 years ago! And you still takes 4hrly trades as the first post suggest.
And you keep blaming the system doesn't work. Please do yourselves a favor, do as i asked in the attached image below:
I would like to have a healthy argument with others. I don't even have instagram account if it matters to you..
{quote} redwed made our day easier didnt he
- #2,619
- Dec 16, 2015 8:01am Dec 16, 2015 8:01am
- Joined Dec 2010 | Status: Foook Bollinger-dr.Kegel knows! | 9,794 Posts
{quote} Can you please enlighten me with "statistical testing of ideas - wheareas you can pick as many as you want in forward testing.". I would like to learn more as i maybe want to consider implementing them in my CCFp-Diff and CC-Diff project.
I also attached another CC that can be used. {file} Enjoy!
One could pick this indicator code and add trading capabilities in EA. Building algorythms. I can work on that with you no problem. Surely loots of better people on this, but I always keep it simple which i found is the best at first.
The EA should be structured in such a way that you would have loots of trading going on. You could track every signal and summarizze it in excel etc. Magic number/comment.
First step is to go for best win-rate percentage on 1:1 RR. whats the value of R? well, thats another issue one needs to statistically tackle.
looots of work, before one can say, huuh, this system/settings mean something and you can try to exploit it. But remember, this is a long road to walk on.
Do you have any programing skills? Because this would ease the way substantially. Hope this helps
- #2,620
- Dec 16, 2015 8:47am Dec 16, 2015 8:47am
Hi Guys,
I've modified the excel template provided by pipo. Added the following feature on top op Pipo's original logic( I never change any of his logic).
a) will sort currency by strongest to weakest
b) sort BUY/SELL pairs --> click
for b), after u click the button (here u do manual sorting and deselect the FALSE result)
Will upload if anyone request for it.
Regards
I've modified the excel template provided by pipo. Added the following feature on top op Pipo's original logic( I never change any of his logic).
a) will sort currency by strongest to weakest
b) sort BUY/SELL pairs --> click
for b), after u click the button (here u do manual sorting and deselect the FALSE result)
Will upload if anyone request for it.
Regards