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  • #8,521
  • Nov 18, 2015 10:34pm Nov 18, 2015 10:34pm
Quoting azfarjaved
{quote} Dear Massta, As per my memory, you gave good calls in past exactly based on Master's lessons..... Even one day Nitsan appreciated you for perfect tick chart call...... I don't know what happened suddenly and you are getting angry over him. Regards, Azfar
My friend. his system will not make you profitable trader. I also realized that what he teaches in the lessons, he himself do not follow. I saw it on my live account managed by him. And he is not as good as it appears. When he wins he will make sure he posts a chart, if he loses he does not say anything or he disappears for several days. just like after last oil trade.
  • #8,522
  • Nov 19, 2015 2:34am Nov 19, 2015 2:34am
Main question is why You let Nitsan manage Your account if You bought the course. I remember many of Your post when You blessed him for good trades. This is the market and You should know there is no 100 % good trades. So my opinion there is a big part of Your fault too.
  • #8,523
  • Nov 19, 2015 5:05am Nov 19, 2015 5:05am
waiting for nitsan reply on what massta is saying.if he dnt reply its mean massta is 100% on his right
  • #8,524
  • Nov 19, 2015 5:06am Nov 19, 2015 5:06am
Quoting Massta
The reality is and if you want to keep your hard earned money, do not buy from Nitsan nor give to manage your funds. I learned it hard way. And believe me, i am not naive, i know there are losing and winning in trading. But person who position himself as expert cannot lose 50% of account in 3 days, and the rest in 2 more. Also, notice that there are no people hear who joined the thread longer than 6 months ago. Think about it. You have 2 ways out of Nitsan's misery: 1) you lose your money or you realize that what he teaches will not make you money...
I don't defend him, but I took his course. I use a lot of his tools especially 200/300 sma, but also with some my ideas. I earn but I also lost. Most of bad trades are my fault (that greed!!!) I don't use his MM from course because it was sth like 1 or less % risk/trade. Its small for me. In September I did almost 600%, using only his sma's and fibo strategies.

But if you say that he managed your account and blew up it in one week... so his MM is terrible and not 1% risk
Also weird that Nitsan disappeard...

Also this
Quote
"Main question is why You let Nitsan manage Your account if You bought the course."
from zets is the good question. If you wanted to check Nitsan's abilities it was good move, but now you should or not? show us a proof Some of ppl will be very grateful I think...

Best wishes
  • #8,525
  • Nov 19, 2015 5:22am Nov 19, 2015 5:22am
Quoting Massta
The reality is and if you want to keep your hard earned money, do not buy from Nitsan nor give to manage your funds. I learned it hard way. And believe me, i am not naive, i know there are losing and winning in trading. But person who position himself as expert cannot lose 50% of account in 3 days, and the rest in 2 more. Also, notice that there are no people hear who joined the thread longer than 6 months ago. Think about it. You have 2 ways out of Nitsan's misery: 1) you lose your money or you realize that what he teaches will not make you money...
i have always wondered about Nitsan's methodology and his MM in particular. though i've never taken his course and don't fully understand his methodology i've been around long enough to have a good idea of what it is about. my biggest concern with his MM is the R:R(1:1 typically) is absolutely ridiculous and requires huge S/L's in most cases. i can see why your account was blown out in a week's time which is criminal imo. i hope other traders heed what has happened here and stay away from such practices and learn to develop there own systems that are more suitable to them personally with better R:R(3:1 at a minimum) parameters.
  • #8,526
  • Nov 19, 2015 6:57am Nov 19, 2015 6:57am
Quoting Mrdj
{quote} I don't defend him, but I took his course. I use a lot of his tools especially 200/300 sma, but also with some my ideas. I earn but I also lost. Most of bad trades are my fault (that greed!!!) I don't use his MM from course because it was sth like 1 or less % risk/trade. Its small for me. In September I did almost 600%, using only his sma's and fibo strategies. But if you say that he managed your account and blew up it in one week... so his MM is terrible and not 1% risk Also weird that Nitsan disappeard... Also this {quote} from zets...
I needed money to pay for something. I took out loan and decided to earn. He insisted on 50,0000-100,000 but i felt it was to mch risk. I was willing to risk 10,000 usd. And i did. I checked his ability and i was destroyed. I lost money that i borrowed...
I will post account statement. I will be happy to do so as Levi likes to post his statement to prove he is good.
  • #8,527
  • Nov 19, 2015 6:58am Nov 19, 2015 6:58am
Quoting tripr
{quote} i have always wondered about Nitsan's methodology and his MM in particular. though i've never taken his course and don't fully understand his methodology i've been around long enough to have a good idea of what it is about. my biggest concern with his MM is the R:R(1:1 typically) is absolutely ridiculous and requires huge S/L's in most cases. i can see why your account was blown out in a week's time which is criminal imo. i hope other traders heed what has happened here and stay away from such practices and learn to develop there own systems...
Fully agree
  • #8,528
  • Nov 19, 2015 7:00am Nov 19, 2015 7:00am
Quoting rashidyousuf
waiting for nitsan reply on what massta is saying.if he dnt reply its mean massta is 100% on his right
I will post account statement and if needed our correspondence. I am not 100% right. I am totally right and he has nothing to say to prove his position. Account blown speaks for itself. And he was the only one taking positions, opening, closing. I only watched how he killed the account.
  • #8,529
  • Nov 19, 2015 7:02am Nov 19, 2015 7:02am
Quoting zets
Main question is why You let Nitsan manage Your account if You bought the course. I remember many of Your post when You blessed him for good trades. This is the market and You should know there is no 100 % good trades. So my opinion there is a big part of Your fault too.
My friend, you are missing the point. It is not about faults. It is about telling my story, so people have information and make their judgment and decision.

I learned from misery, i want you to learn from my misery and avoid trusting blindly lile i did.
  • #8,530
  • Nov 19, 2015 9:41am Nov 19, 2015 9:41am
where is nitsan in all of this? its not like him to be gone for so long,its his thread. by the way just checked, he was online 8 hours ago but hasnt replied yet, i wonder why?
  • #8,531
  • Nov 19, 2015 9:44am Nov 19, 2015 9:44am
Quoting babaz7
where is nitsan in all of this? its not like him to be gone for so long,its his thread. by the way just checked, he was online 8 hours ago but hasnt replied yet, i wonder why?
he's hiding.
  • #8,532
  • Nov 19, 2015 10:04am Nov 19, 2015 10:04am
Quoting Massta
{quote} I needed money to pay for something. I took out loan and decided to earn. He insisted on 50,0000-100,000 but i felt it was to mch risk. I was willing to risk 10,000 usd. And i did. I checked his ability and i was destroyed. I lost money that i borrowed... I will post account statement. I will be happy to do so as Levi likes to post his statement to prove he is good.
Buddy,

I can exactly feel your pain as I lost my hard earned US$12,000 in year 2012 by one person who mishandled & blown my account.

Here I will just say, you are my course fellow and Nitsan is our teacher. I feel sorry for you and I also admit that after taking his course, I earned enough.

Whatever happened, is not good. Not good for your wealth loss and equally not good for Master's repute. I feel sorry for both of you.

Well Wisher,
Azfar
  • #8,533
  • Nov 19, 2015 11:10am Nov 19, 2015 11:10am
Quoting azfarjaved
{quote} Buddy, I can exactly feel your pain as I lost my hard earned US$12,000 in year 2012 by one person who mishandled & blown my account. Here I will just say, you are my course fellow and Nitsan is our teacher. I feel sorry for you and I also admit that after taking his course, I earned enough. Whatever happened, is not good. Not good for your wealth loss and equally not good for Master's repute. I feel sorry for both of you. Well Wisher, Azfar
Azfar, my friend. Thank you.
Once again, i am writing here not to prove or disprove someone or anything. I have a story to tell. I feel strong i had to share it with you and everyone here. Forexfactory is a place where a lot of inexperience people look for guidance. I have my opinion about him and nitsan levi earned it by killing my account in several days. He earned it by being nothing like professional. I always felt his lessons were based on cherry picked examples. So i would not recommend buying his videos. Videos must be given for free. Should be available on the internet.
  • #8,534
  • Nov 19, 2015 3:07pm Nov 19, 2015 3:07pm
Quoting Hatzerim
Hey Massta, First of all I must say I regret you loss. Still, you should know that nothing is 100% safe in this life and that trading is not 100% safe too. So if you invest your money, you should be prepared for losing it should it happen and not get angry at anyone. Second of all, regarding the lessons and teaching, all was done because many asked the teacher. He never pushed anyone to do so. Those who took the course did it because they wanted. I understand your frustrantion, but I believe that you should assume the consequences of your choices....
leave Massta alone pls he said it clearly:
" you are missing the point. It is not about faults. It is about telling my story, so people have information and make their judgment and decision.
I learned from misery, i want you to learn from my misery and avoid trusting blindly like i did.
  • #8,535
  • Nov 19, 2015 9:52pm Nov 19, 2015 9:52pm
Quoting medvic
{quote} leave Massta alone pls he said it clearly: " you are missing the point. It is not about faults. It is about telling my story, so people have information and make their judgment and decision. I learned from misery, i want you to learn from my misery and avoid trusting blindly like i did.
Medvic, thank you, my friend.
I am glad that people get involved in discussion. I do not expect everyone take my side. Honestly, it was not my goal to get everyone on my side. So, I can live with people having contrarian position.
Hatzerim decided to leave an opinion. That is great. Did he say anything new? No, he did not.
  • #8,536
  • Nov 19, 2015 9:54pm Nov 19, 2015 9:54pm
Quoting azfarjaved
{quote} Buddy, Jose, one of our course mate, was asking about your Skype ID. Although i added maximum of you in my Skype but I do not remember your Skype Name or ID. Can you please share? I will forward it to him (I forgot his FF Name as he rarely appeared here from beginning). Azfar
Hi Azfar. sent you PM.
  • #8,537
  • Nov 20, 2015 7:45am Nov 20, 2015 7:45am
I am watching this thread long time. I can firmly state that this so named mister illusionist/magician nitsan is a full scam. By putting few successful trades he is trying to engage more losers in is losers program by selling some kind of videos. And I am very surprised that so many people make idol of him. Who is this nitsan? Anybody knows him, any one saw his face. Who designated him as master ? Yes, may be master of losing money.I never saw any professional analysys placed here, all calls just pure luck and mostly ABCD, nothing else !!! Not even one professional analysys or trade. He never talks about losing trades. But i have all charts copied (losing trades) , but nobody never recall them again. And most of the followers also closing eyes on losings trades. He posts only good trades. Everybody sitting here and waiting for magic trade from professor on how to lose money. I never followed him, because I have my own brain and you have too. Wake up , do not lie to yourself.
Those that get up at 5 a.m. rule the world.
  • #8,538
  • Nov 20, 2015 9:40pm Nov 20, 2015 9:40pm
They should put nitsan on forex factory's missing persons list.
btw i was just following this thread for gold calls and 7 out of 10 calls of his would usually be wrong so i just stopped following his calls, maybe he is good in other things but not gold.
  • #8,539
  • Nov 20, 2015 10:09pm Nov 20, 2015 10:09pm
Quoting KoraDuba
I am watching this thread long time. I can firmly state that this so named mister illusionist/magician nitsan is a full scam. By putting few successful trades he is trying to engage more losers in is losers program by selling some kind of videos. And I am very surprised that so many people make idol of him. Who is this nitsan? Anybody knows him, any one saw his face. Who designated him as master ? Yes, may be master of losing money.I never saw any professional analysys placed here, all calls just pure luck and mostly ABCD, nothing else !!! Not even...
It is difficult to except truth!!
  • #8,540
  • Nov 23, 2015 4:40am Nov 23, 2015 4:40am
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