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Disliked{quote} Totally agreed with you Rayner. This month is really difficult and have tricky market.Ignored
DislikedPlease fartist thank you for shearing your experience and also educating us to become profitable retail traders. I was introduce to trading by a friend 3 years ago where we went for a weekend courses that total 4 days training where we open a live account 5k each but we lost everything. I became scared until i came across your thread then your website trading with rayner.com thanks for you free course which is no where near what i pay 1200 for. I believe by following you and your colleagues at this thread one day my dream of becoming financial freedom...Ignored
DislikedPlease fartist thank you for shearing your experience and also educating us to become profitable retail traders. I was introduce to trading by a friend 3 years ago where we went for a weekend courses that total 4 days training where we open a live account 5k each but we lost everything. I became scared until i came across your thread then your website trading with rayner.com thanks for you free course which is no where near what i pay 1200 for. I believe by following you and your colleagues at this thread one day my dream of becoming financial freedom...Ignored
Disliked{quote} No doubt Rayner is the best and cant believe he is giving such information FREE. Keep thread LIVE guys!Ignored
DislikedHi fartist. What's your thoughts on this pair. I'm flat on it now as it retraced & hit my SL. For a good profit I might add. Question is. Would you be still in this trade riding out the retrace or would you have bailed out to wait for another entry.? Cheers. {image} {image}Ignored
DislikedBad month for me as a trend trader. Here is my LIVE account report! {image} What do you guys says? I am planning to re-tuning my strategy. Regards. Umair (Umee)Ignored
Disliked{quote} All "Major" pairs are in a state of flux, with choppy ranging indecision. Best to seek minor pairs not affected by US news BS until the majors break out & start trending again.Ignored
DislikedHi fartist. What's your thoughts on this pair. I'm flat on it now as it retraced & hit my SL. For a good profit I might add. Question is. Would you be still in this trade riding out the retrace or would you have bailed out to wait for another entry.? Cheers. {image} {image}Ignored
Disliked{quote} Hello Oz, I didn't trade this and instead went short on the AUD/NZD. I prefer this because if you look on the daily it has broke out of a range and could potentially have more room to the downside. Also it's a weaker pair compared to GBP/NZD... thus i shorted the AUD/NZD instead. Regarding your setup, I'll probably be stopped out and wait for another signal to enter. That kind of deep pullback isn't worth holding on. fartist {image}Ignored
DislikedHi Guys, This is my first post here, I've run into this topic 4 days ago, and I'm kinda' addicted to this trend following strategy since then.When I find a new trading strategy on this forum, I usually read the first few pages, and after that I jump to the end, to check the following things: - is the thread still active? if no, I move on - does the thread starter have fresh posts? if no, I usually move on - has the original method changed a lot, or degenerated by indicators, EAs? if yes, I usally move on. In this case, Fartist is still here...
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That's how Andreas Clenow defines it based on his best selling book, Following the Trend: Diversified Managed Futures Trading.
It looks something like this:
An example:
The fact is this:
If you constantly break your rules and do not follow your trading plan, then you're going to have an inconsistent trading performance.
If you constantly follow your rules and trading plan, then you're going to have a consistent trading performance.
Makes sense, right?
If you're interested, read How to be a Consistently Profitable Trader for a detailed explanation.
3. Price leads news
It's easy to get caught up with happenings around the world.
One moment, you're hearing about the Greek financial crisis.
Next... China missed their GDP forecast.
Then... the US central bank is about to raise interest rates.
How do you know which news are important?
You're afraid of putting on a trade, for the fear that a news event comes out, and you're stopped out for a loss.
Now:
What if I told you price leads news?
And you can ignore news totally?
Check this out...
NZ central bank cuts rates
With these four metrics, you can compute your expectancy to know whether you'll be profitable in the long run.
Expectancy = (Winning % * Average win) (Losing % * Average loss) (Commission + slippage)
If you have a positive expectancy, you can be confident of your trading method as it'll make you money in the long run.
But, if you have a negative expectancy, you'll be losing money over the long run.
5. You don't need to know where price will go to make money
Think about this for a moment:
Do casinos know whether they'll make money in the next betting round? No.
Do casinos know whether they'll make money in the next 1000 betting rounds? Yes.
You're wondering...
...how does it work?
It works by the law of large numbers.
The law of large numbers is a theorem that describes the result of performing the same experiment a large number of times. According to the law, the average of the results obtained from a large number of trials should be close to the expected value, and will tend to become closer as more trials are performed. Probability Theory
This means, results are random in the short run, but will be closer to the expected value in the long run.
And this is exactly the same for trading. You don't need to know where the markets are going to make money.
To make money in trading, you need two things:
Here's what Peter Brandt, a forty year veteran trader, has to say...
"In this portion of my trading, I will usually trade between 25 to 35 signals per month.
When I wrote this speech in April, I took a look at the previous 3 months. Out of 91 trades, there were 31 profits or 34%. That means that 66% of the trades were losers.
But further, the net bottom line profit for all 91 trades was represented by only 4 trades. Less than 5% of the trades put in the bottom line.
More importantly, I am sure I would not have been able to predict which 5% it would have been before the fact."
If you admit not knowing where the markets are headed, it's a good thing.
Why?
And these two trading principles are essential to survive in this business.
6. Pick the wrong markets and you'll snooze
As a trend follower, I come to understand that not all markets are created equal.
There are:
The only two types of market that interest me are:
Why?
Because when you're trading the strongest/weakest markets:
Here's an example, which market would you short?
Your goal in trading
You must know what's your goal in trading before you can find a method that fits your needs.
Are you looking to build consistent income from it?
Or...
Are you looking to build wealth from it?
Now:
If your goal in trading is to build a consistent income regularly, then day and swing trading suits you.
If your goal in trading is to build wealth from it, then position trading suits you.
Your personal characteristic
You must know your personal character before you can use a method that fits you.
Are you someone who prefers to win more often, but with smaller gains?
Or...
Are you someone who prefers to win less often, but with larger gains?
Now:
If you're someone who prefers to win more often but with smaller gains, then day and swing trading suits you.
If you're someone who prefers to win less often but with larger gains, then position trading suits you.
Ultimately, the best trading method depends on your goal and personal characteristic.
Conclusion
I don't know everything about the markets and I'm still learning each and every day.
Things happen for a reason, so don't take setback as failure on your part.
Instead, take it as feedback from the markets to improve your trading.
If you've got a lesson to share, please share your story in a comment below.
DislikedHi guys, first time poster, great thread and hats off to fartist for his unselfish sharing of experience and knowledge! Interesting pair to look at the UK Gilt (10Y bonds): Weekly: {image} Daily {image} 4H: {image} Seems like a good pullback to enter on the 4H chart while being supported by the 50 EMAVG line for both the weekly and daily.Ignored