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  • #941
  • Aug 16, 2006 9:43pm Aug 16, 2006 9:43pm
"like i've been tied to the whipin post......
tied to the whipin post......
good Lord it feels like I'm dyin'......"

Almond Brothers


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"it makes me sick to my stomach, i swear to God it does. 8 years of it. sure i had some great wins. rode sugar from 2 to nearly 6, pyramiding up. made six figures only to lose it all trying to daytrade before i had a clue. i cant tell you how many times i cried myself to sleep slumped over my office desk. i couldnt quit. i could see the reward if i could figure it out. maybe im just a case of enough time trying, i dont know. what i do know is i started to realise this aint a game. doctors spend 10-12 years killing themselves at a shot at a six-figure income. it took me more than that. what happened? what changed? i quit funding accounts with 1 or 2 grand and betting the farm. i flat quit period, with real money that is. the internet came along at the right time and i flat said no more until i can prove it on demo. period-paragraph."

your message is truly inspiring and I'm sure resonates with many traders here Jim. Because I know the words are sincere and from the heart, they have an increadably positive impact on the psychological mind set of myself and many other traders. This is a testament to your dedication and sincerity in your efforts to help others. For this, I/we all thank you.

I have decided to take up your challenge of posting a system/indicator that I have been working with. I believe that your input and that of others can be benificial to the development of this system and it surly could use some "supercharging". I need a few days to put together the materials for the post, but will be looking forward to the adventure.

M
"You can make money or you can make excuses, you can't do both". unknown
  • #942
  • Aug 16, 2006 10:14pm Aug 16, 2006 10:14pm
Quoting mpotis
"like i've been tied to the whipin post......
tied to the whipin post......
good Lord it feels like I'm dyin'......"

Almond Brothers


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"it makes me sick to my stomach, i swear to God it does. 8 years of it. sure i had some great wins. rode sugar from 2 to nearly 6, pyramiding up. made six figures only to lose it all trying to daytrade before i had a clue. i cant tell you how many times i cried myself to sleep slumped over my office desk. i couldnt quit. i could see the reward if i could figure it out. maybe im just a case of enough time trying, i dont know. what i do know is i started to realise this aint a game. doctors spend 10-12 years killing themselves at a shot at a six-figure income. it took me more than that. what happened? what changed? i quit funding accounts with 1 or 2 grand and betting the farm. i flat quit period, with real money that is. the internet came along at the right time and i flat said no more until i can prove it on demo. period-paragraph."

your message is truly inspiring and I'm sure resonates with many traders here Jim. Because I know the words are sincere and from the heart, they have an increadably positive impact on the psychological mind set of myself and many other traders. This is a testament to your dedication and sincerity in your efforts to help others. For this, I/we all thank you.

I have decided to take up your challenge of posting a system/indicator that I have been working with. I believe that your input and that of others can be benificial to the development of this system and it surly could use some "supercharging". I need a few days to put together the materials for the post, but will be looking forward to the adventure.

M
thanks m, anyone who quotes the brothers is ok in my book. looking forward to seeing what you got.
  • #943
  • Aug 17, 2006 1:10am Aug 17, 2006 1:10am
Quoting Miguel
Please don’t read this has a sad history, actually it is not, co’s I know there will be a happy ending!

Hi Miguel
It never sounded sad. There were more positive words in that message than all the sad complaints about brokers that flood this board.
I hope to be around to help you celebrate your happy ending
If you've found a good partner then treasure her, she will keep you going through any bad times you have. Never let the sun set on an argument and tell her how good you feel about her every day.

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I am saving money to subscribe the PF, I still don’t have it co’s in Portugal the wage’s are far from good, but in the next 2 months I will have it and I will be there to learn with you and all the guys. Looking forward to that…

When you are in the PF don't waste the information that's there, read and understand as much as you can before hitting the buy/sell button with real money. Read Fiji's thread so that you fully understand leverage and how to survive the first few months/years of trading without blowing your account. With your positive attitude Fiji's psychology section will help as well.
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Too Jim and all the guys that help other’s I would like to dedicate this text of the bible. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

Ruth 2:12<o></o>

Guess I may have to get the good book out and read that

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PS: my English is very bad I am sorry, I am taking classes to learn better.
It's better than my Portugese

Peter
  • #944
  • Aug 17, 2006 2:56am Aug 17, 2006 2:56am
Quoting james16
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO THRU HELL TRYING TO FIGURE THIS BUSINESS OUT. I REPEAT, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO THRU HELL TRYING TO FIGURE THIS BUSINESS OUT.
Thank you for posting in the "free" section. You get emotional when you talk about this going through hell stuff and that’s fine but it makes me think that maybe one has to go through it to "feel" it. You have to really really want to get this business figured out to figure it out. Although I haven't done it yet and I haven't got through hell either. I started to really learn and listen when I lost my first account and then lost another two, lol. Now I know that I will not open a new account until my system and head is ready (even though the temptation to jump back in is high). Experience.. sometimes you have to hit a wall to open your eyes.
  • #945
  • Aug 17, 2006 3:11am Aug 17, 2006 3:11am
Quoting PeterFM
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Hi Miguel
It never sounded sad. There were more positive words in that message than all the sad complaints about brokers that flood this board.
I hope to be around to help you celebrate your happy ending
If you've found a good partner then treasure her, she will keep you going through any bad times you have. Never let the sun set on an argument and tell her how good you feel about her every day.



Peter
Peter i really thank you for your kind words! I wich you all the best in this live, for you and your family! Take care!
My best regards to you mate
  • #946
  • Aug 17, 2006 3:35am Aug 17, 2006 3:35am
Quoting PeterFM
Guess I may have to get the good book out and read that
Quoting Ruth 2:12 NIV
May the Lord repay you for what you have done. May you be richly rewarded by the Lord, the God of Israel, under whose wings you have come to take refuge.
Hey Jim! Is it cozy under those wings?

Dial
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  • #947
  • Aug 17, 2006 11:32am Aug 17, 2006 11:32am
Quoting Linus
Jim, thanks for your words of wisdom... that's why we need you.

I've heard that the mini-dow and mini sp is simpler than FX. I would like to venture into this area but somehow kinda reluctant. My broker IBFX only provides FX. Which brokers would you recommend to use and maybe even one that also uses MT4 charts for trading the mini-dow and mini sp.

I've read somewhere that the descending order of simplicity is as follows:
1. S&P
2. GBP/USD
3. AUD/USD
4. EUR/JPY

Thanks

That is a great question, thx for the anwser James but I would like to know if any brokers will do the S&P, Forex, and Gold via the MT4 platform? Anyone...Anyone...Buhler...Buhler...

And what about that order of simplicity, anyone venture an opinion on this?
  • #948
  • Aug 18, 2006 7:13pm Aug 18, 2006 7:13pm
Quoting james16
new chart
In two different palces you have referred back to earlier posts, i.e. posts 62 & 58 both of which are blanks. I am missing something or does the king really have no clothes?
  • #949
  • Aug 18, 2006 7:26pm Aug 18, 2006 7:26pm
first time that has been pointed out to me. what do you mean by does the king really have no clothes.

Quoting hk334
In two different palces you have referred back to earlier posts, i.e. posts 62 & 58 both of which are blanks. I am missing something or does the king really have no clothes?
  • #950
  • Aug 18, 2006 8:27pm Aug 18, 2006 8:27pm
Quoting james16
first time that has been pointed out to me. what do you mean by does the king really have no clothes.
What!?! You've never heard about the "Emperor's new clothes"...?

Please....please.....READ!! (...its a good laugh...)
http://deoxy.org/emperors.htm
  • #951
  • Aug 18, 2006 8:42pm Aug 18, 2006 8:42pm
Quoting baddison
What!?! You've never heard about the "Emperor's new clothes"...?

Please....please.....READ!! (...its a good laugh...)
http://deoxy.org/emperors.htm
hello b, yeah im just trying to make sure i understand what the point is.
  • #952
  • Aug 18, 2006 9:14pm Aug 18, 2006 9:14pm
Quoting hk334
In two different palces you have referred back to earlier posts, i.e. posts 62 & 58 both of which are blanks. I am missing something or does the king really have no clothes?
Dude or Dudette,

Those posts are 14 months old, and nearly 900 posts ago. The Factory has experienced several crashes in those intervening months, several just recently, a couple requiring restoration from backup. Crashes and restorations sometimes leave artifacts like losing the link between a post and it's associated image, causing the image to disappear. Also posters to this thread have the option of deleting their posts. When they do, it causes the post numbers of every post after theirs to roll up by one. There's no telling how many posts were deleted before the two posts you cited so those are probably totally different post numbers than what they were when Jim cited them. And finally, the two posts look just like the placeholder posts that Jim used when building this thread. Those are posts that the author of a teaching thread puts in and then soft deletes so they can restore them later if they need to insert something into the teaching sequence. It could be that the recent server problems caused a couple of placeholder posts became undeleted. (BTW only forum moderators like Jim and myself can do this)

I've just given you a list of possible explanations as to why those two posts are blank. They obviously have only become blank recently because this thread attracts new readers all the time and you are the first one to point this out.

Now, what I want from you is an explanation of your "emporor has no clothes" comment?

I await your reply.

Diallist (Forum Moderator)
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  • #953
  • Aug 18, 2006 9:46pm Aug 18, 2006 9:46pm
thanks dial, i honestly didnt know what to say. truth is i simply dont know. i am sure one of these answers you gave is correct im just not sure which one.
Quoting diallist
Dude or Dudette,

Those posts are 14 months old, and nearly 900 posts ago. The Factory has experienced several crashes in those intervening months, several just recently, a couple requiring restoration from backup. Crashes and restorations sometimes leave artifacts like losing the link between a post and it's associated image, causing the image to disappear. Also posters to this thread have the option of deleting their posts. When they do, it causes the post numbers of every post after theirs to roll up by one. There's no telling how many posts were deleted before the two posts you cited so those are probably totally different post numbers than what they were when Jim cited them. And finally, the two posts look just like the placeholder posts that Jim used when building this thread. Those are posts that the author of a teaching thread puts in and then soft deletes so they can restore them later if they need to insert something into the teaching sequence. It could be that the recent server problems caused a couple of placeholder posts became undeleted. (BTW only forum moderators like Jim and myself can do this)

I've just given you a list of possible explanations as to why those two posts are blank. They obviously have only become blank recently because this thread attracts new readers all the time and you are the first one to point this out.

Now, what I want from you is an explanation of your "emporor has no clothes" comment?

I await your reply.

Diallist (Forum Moderator)
  • #954
  • Aug 18, 2006 9:47pm Aug 18, 2006 9:47pm
Quoting james16
hello b, yeah im just trying to make sure i understand what the point is.
The point is, A good lookin king looks good no matter what he throws on....

LOL, Scott
  • #955
  • Aug 19, 2006 12:10am Aug 19, 2006 12:10am
Quoting james16
first time that has been pointed out to me. what do you mean by does the king really have no clothes.
I am not questioning your opinions or data on the charts. That has been very enlightening. I find that my sense of humor and quirky education kicks in quite quickly when I find something to question and since there were no posts where posts were said to be, like the boy that was told that the king had on new clothes but was actually wearing nothing (no posts) I asked "or does the "king really have no clothes" The sad thing about explaining a joke is that all humor is lost in the explanation!
  • #956
  • Aug 19, 2006 12:17am Aug 19, 2006 12:17am
Quoting hk334
I am not questioning your opinions or data on the charts. That has been very enlightening. I find that my sense of humor and quirky education kicks in quite quickly when I find something to question and since there were no posts where posts were said to be, like the boy that was told that the king had on new clothes but was actually wearing nothing (no posts) I asked "or does the "king really have no clothes" The sad thing about explaining a joke is that all humor is lost in the explanation!
Additionally humor is quite often mistaken for ridicule. They are both very different and no ridicule was intended but humor is always a necessity as the real world is full of things that can dull ones enthuiasm for life, any body familiar with a merle haggard song called "rainbow stew" The pertinant line goes; "When the president goes to the White House door and does what he said he'll do, We'll all be drinking that free bubble up and eating that rainbow stew"
  • #957
  • Aug 19, 2006 12:28am Aug 19, 2006 12:28am
Quoting hk334
humor is quite often mistaken for ridicule. They are both very different and no ridicule was intended but humor is always a necessity as the real world is full of things that can dull ones enthuiasm for life
Thanks hk, I understand your "clothes" comment now. (And I thought MY sense of humor was weird : )

And I also agree that the world is full of things that can dull ones enthusiasm for life. That was very well said. Thanks.

I hope to see you post often. The Factory is full of really good people, and there's always room for another. Welcome!

Dial
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  • #958
  • Aug 19, 2006 2:31am Aug 19, 2006 2:31am
Quoting hk334
Additionally humor is quite often mistaken for ridicule. They are both very different and no ridicule was intended but humor is always a necessity as the real world is full of things that can dull ones enthuiasm for life, any body familiar with a merle haggard song called "rainbow stew" The pertinant line goes; "When the president goes to the White House door and does what he said he'll do, We'll all be drinking that free bubble up and eating that rainbow stew"
And another thing: A friend of mine is actually a "Rocket Scientist" He's the guy that did the trajectory for the Voyager satilite around 7 planets to pick up speed on its way out of the solar system. He also did the algorythym for the Ozone satilite. He had a couple signs that hung over his desk One of them Said "RTFM" That applies to "this thing of ours" (trading). BUT NOBODY HAS WRITTEN THE MANUAL I maintained that idea until I got to james16. I will patiently read to the end of the "book" and hopefully be able to grasp the heart of the data. Thanks
  • #959
  • Aug 19, 2006 2:37am Aug 19, 2006 2:37am
Quoting diallist
Thanks hk, I understand your "clothes" comment now. (And I thought MY sense of humor was weird : )

And I also agree that the world is full of things that can dull ones enthusiasm for life. That was very well said. Thanks.

I hope to see you post often. The Factory is full of really good people, and there's always room for another. Welcome!

Dial
I seem to have found a home you will "see" me here often, That is if I have something that I think needs to be said. It took me ten minutes of reading the "free" thread to go pay for the other one. My BS snifer works really well but can still find and appreciate the roses. "Thinking is the only way to travel" MOODY BLUES
  • #960
  • Aug 19, 2006 2:44am Aug 19, 2006 2:44am
Quoting diallist
(And I thought MY sense of humor was weird : )
Dial
It is

Peter
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