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  • #1,281
  • Oct 6, 2015 8:28pm Oct 6, 2015 8:28pm
Quoting cipan
not asking about the ea making it is about fifo rule does tp preceed fifo
Cipan and Shaolin Quant - FIFO means First In - First Out. There are specific rules around FIFO. What it means is that if you open a series of trades say at .01,.01,.01, and you want to close the last of the sequence, this will not be allowed, you need to close the first of the sequence - AKA FIFO. If the lot sizes are different then the rules are also different, if we had say .01, .02 and .03 and we want to close the .03 trade then that is Ok because it is a different size.

hope this clarifies the issue.

Regards
maahome
  • #1,282
  • Oct 7, 2015 1:55pm Oct 7, 2015 1:55pm
Quoting cipan
not asking about the ea making it is about fifo rule does tp preceed fifo
sorry how do you tick data into your broker?

i only have two months history
  • #1,283
  • Oct 7, 2015 3:28pm Oct 7, 2015 3:28pm
Quoting cipan
Hi All please feedback if there any error, but I already backtest with several settings, and it is good {file} {file} {file} {file}
Dear Cipan : Thanks a lot for this great effort .. very good EA and promising result .
but what if u can add the lot size duplication setting as described in the original post
Trades 1-12=.01 Lots
Trades 13-21=.02 Lots
Trades 22-29=.05 Lots
Trades 30-36=.13 Lots
Trades 37-39=.34 Lots
Trade 40 =.89 Lots
i think it will be more benefit
Thanks again for this AWESOME Ea
  • #1,284
  • Oct 7, 2015 8:14pm Oct 7, 2015 8:14pm
Such an incredible EA! Thank you, Cipan, for your awesome efforts. I"m still trying to understand all the variables. In the meantime, today's trades look good except they did not close as I thought they would so I closed them manually. Did anyone else catch these trades today?
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  • #1,285
  • Oct 7, 2015 9:04pm Oct 7, 2015 9:04pm
Quoting cipan
I have several forward test with profit, but all lot set 0.01 Only one running at Asian time others set around the clock there is one live I put 300, within GU and EU around the clock with shaolin post set file q (this version no day option to off, and you cannot change each individual lot size and start from 24 sept so now after 2 weeks : the account become 600 it is just my luck the latest versions below, I want to trade bigger {image} quantum_shaolin132_2TimeSlot_DayOption.ex4...
i still don't don't get it ... does this EA have any downside?
  • #1,286
  • Oct 8, 2015 10:45am Oct 8, 2015 10:45am
Quoting cipan
I have several forward test with profit, but all lot set 0.01 Only one running at Asian time others set around the clock there is one live I put 300, within GU and EU around the clock with shaolin post set file q (this version no day option to off, and you cannot change each individual lot size and start from 24 sept so now after 2 weeks : the account become 600 it is just my luck the latest versions below, I want to trade bigger {image} quantum_shaolin132_2TimeSlot_DayOption.ex4...
Hi Cipan,
Which setting in particular did you use to grow a 300 deposit to 600 in 2 weeks in live account? Please only post the particular settings so that I will understand it
  • #1,287
  • Oct 8, 2015 11:03am Oct 8, 2015 11:03am
Quoting cipan
I have several forward test with profit, but all lot set 0.01 Only one running at Asian time others set around the clock there is one live I put 300, within GU and EU around the clock with shaolin post set file q (this version no day option to off, and you cannot change each individual lot size and start from 24 sept so now after 2 weeks : the account become 600 it is just my luck the latest versions below, I want to trade bigger {image} quantum_shaolin132_2TimeSlot_DayOption.ex4...
Also cipan, can you upload that shaolin "set file q" that you talked about here
thanks
  • #1,288
  • Oct 8, 2015 12:01pm Oct 8, 2015 12:01pm
Hi again!!


This is a question for Shaolin, Cipan or Vlad about your systems.
I'm using mt4 and I have the system Shaolin 1.3 in 5 pairs at the same time.. .it is possible to have the system installed in several pairs at the same time?
With regard to the magical number can be any number? It has to have special characteristics?

Thanks and regards!!
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  • #1,289
  • Oct 8, 2015 12:41pm Oct 8, 2015 12:41pm
Quoting Rippin
Such an incredible EA! Thank you, Cipan, for your awesome efforts. I"m still trying to understand all the variables. In the meantime, today's trades look good except they did not close as I thought they would so I closed them manually. Did anyone else catch these trades today?{image}
Credit to Vlad and Shaolin at the first place

please use these latest versions as per screen shot

in responds to Anawenta, I modified these two versions as per screen shots with individual lot size
I know it is troublesome to key in from lot1 to lot40 (lot 41) with follow lot 40

I am still insist later to use Vlad version, but now still correcting it

for banking 600 from 300 two weeks, I using set file from ori 132 shaolin both gu and eu Q value but unlimited cycle and trades with 0.01 all with min entries 50, and mon to fri, the interesting story, it is a buy during nfp

regards and cheers
cipan
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  • #1,290
  • Oct 8, 2015 12:50pm Oct 8, 2015 12:50pm
Quoting cipan
{quote} Credit to Vlad and Shaolin at the first place please use these latest versions as per screen shot in responds to Anawenta, I modified these two versions as per screen shots with individual lot size I know it is troublesome to key in from lot1 to lot40 (lot 41) with follow lot 40 I am still insist later to use Vlad version, but now still correcting it for banking 600 from 300 two weeks, I using set file from ori 132 shaolin both gu and eu Q value but unlimited cycle and trades with 0.01 all with min entries 50, and mon to fri, the interesting...
so your not using ori 132 shaolin ?

so many versions i'm a little confused now...
  • #1,291
  • Oct 8, 2015 12:54pm Oct 8, 2015 12:54pm
Quoting VanDooDoo
Hi again!! This is a question for Shaolin, Cipan or Vlad about your systems. I'm using mt4 and I have the system Shaolin 1.3 in 5 pairs at the same time.. .it is possible to have the system installed in several pairs at the same time? With regard to the magical number can be any number? It has to have special characteristics? Thanks and regards!!
in this ea development (Shaolin), it use icustomsymbol and timeframe set to 0 (meaning all timeframes) AND magic number
so the Q box will follow to any anyframe
in addition order has magic number

So you can put it at all timeframe and and at different charts of same or different pairs
what you want to do is put different magic numbers

anyhow, test it before if you like to do these

regards
cipan
  • #1,292
  • Oct 8, 2015 12:56pm Oct 8, 2015 12:56pm
Quoting TwFXtrader
{quote} so your not using ori 132 shaolin ? so many versions i'm a little confused now...

ori shaolin has no option day and lot size is like this
and it has only one slot time

Trades 1-12=.01 Lots
Trades 13-21=.02 Lots
Trades 22-29=.05 Lots
Trades 30-36=.13 Lots
Trades 37-39=.34 Lots
Trade 40 =.89 Lots

so above versions has option day to turn on or off and lot size is individual from lot1 to lot40
that's all
  • #1,293
  • Oct 8, 2015 1:04pm Oct 8, 2015 1:04pm
by doing that


for example

magic_num=2015; time_open_str1="02:00"; time_close_str1="03:00"; max_trades1=5; max_cycles1=1; time_open_str2="21:15"; time_close_str2="23:45"; max_trades2=5; max_cycles2=1; mon=true; tue=true; wed=true; thurs=true; fri=false; qde=500; qdc=700; slip=10; awa="------------------------------------ ------------------"; axa="------- CHOOSE LOT WISELY AND MARKET ENTRY -------"; aya="------------------------------------ ------------------"; lot1=0.5; lot2=0.5; lot3=0.5; lot4=1; lot5=1; lot6=0.1; lot7=0.1; lot8=0.1; lot9=0.1; lot10=0.1; sl_pct=0; tp_pct=0; sl_dollar=0; tp_dollar=0; sl_points=0; tp_points=50; min_price_diff=0;

and backtest it in 2015 -> no loss
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  • #1,294
  • Oct 8, 2015 6:35pm Oct 8, 2015 6:35pm
Quoting cipan
{quote} Credit to Vlad and Shaolin at the first place please use these latest versions as per screen shot in responds to Anawenta, I modified these two versions as per screen shots with individual lot size I know it is troublesome to key in from lot1 to lot40 (lot 41) with follow lot 40 I am still insist later to use Vlad version, but now still correcting it for banking 600 from 300 two weeks, I using set file from ori 132 shaolin both gu and eu Q value but unlimited cycle and trades with 0.01 all with min entries 50, and mon to fri, the interesting...
Cipan, thanks very much for your efforts, please kindly post for me this set files, I could not locate it, thanks
  • #1,295
  • Oct 8, 2015 10:38pm Oct 8, 2015 10:38pm
hi Cipan, first of all, thanks for your efforts in putting these up! appreciate it really!

would like to ask the 2 time slots you put in, what are the actual market hours? are they first 2 hours of NY open and London open?

thanks!
  • #1,296
  • Oct 9, 2015 3:22am Oct 9, 2015 3:22am
Hi guys,

I am reading this tread from beginning. Basically this strategy has great potential. I dont want to be negative, but try to make backtests from 2010 at least. I am not able survive with any settings. Backtests from 2015 are nice, but you never know what will come on real account. For example, if any movements as it was in 2010 will come in these days, it will blow your account.

I am programing some EA and I did this mistake. I was happy that i have no DD from 2013, but then DD come on demo account)))) Forex has million possible combinations of price movement, and backtest only 2-3 years is not enough. It will blow your account, you dont know when, but it will do definately. Dont take this personally, take it as hint.

Have a nice day
  • #1,297
  • Oct 9, 2015 3:42am Oct 9, 2015 3:42am
Quoting Darius98
Hi guys, I am reading this tread from beginning. Basically this strategy has great potential. I dont want to be negative, but try to make backtests from 2010 at least. I am not able survive with any settings. Backtests from 2015 are nice, but you never know what will come on real account. For example, if any movements as it was in 2010 will come in these days, it will blow your account. I am programing some EA and I did this mistake. I was happy that i have no DD from 2013, but then DD come on demo account)))) Forex has million possible combinations...
Actually, I believe you're wrong in this case. For a few reasons. First of all, the core of the strategy is sell the HH and buy the LL. Technically this is a "bounce" type strategy, often counter trend, but not necessarily. As I've said before, more importantly with this tool is to see how it reacts in different market conditiions. To test over long periods of time isn't very useful since the mechanism is so simple and really we are looking for a particular market condition. Test any of the versions in this thread over 2014 and 2015 and you'll see what I mean. There are times when it has trouble and time where it works better. Of course you can curve fit and find some higher Q value that survives the long term but that's not realisitic. Also certain lot schedules and session times will survive better, but unless your capital is enormous compared to your lot size you are facing drawdown. For me, I will not let a system run for 2+ years unattended, neither will any serious investor. From my experiences, it's best to focus on a more recent set of data and understand the strengths and weaknesses there.
  • #1,298
  • Oct 9, 2015 2:10pm Oct 9, 2015 2:10pm
Quoting ShaolinQuant
{quote} Actually, I believe you're wrong in this case. For a few reasons. First of all, the core of the strategy is sell the HH and buy the LL. Technically this is a "bounce" type strategy, often counter trend, but not necessarily. As I've said before, more importantly with this tool is to see how it reacts in different market conditiions. To test over long periods of time isn't very useful since the mechanism is so simple and really we are looking for a particular market condition. Test any of the versions in this thread over 2014 and 2015 and...

Fully agree with ShaoLinQuant.

This EA can be tweaked with many variable setting so that it is "safe" for your account size. I would suggest that everyone should do an optimization test end of every week to get the best "Q" for that pair. And IMO, 2 -3 months of back data is enough, no need 2 years assuming if one is running it on M1.

If someone can upload optimized set files for 1 to 2 pairs end of every week , that will be great I try to do it, but only get 25% modeling quality.
  • #1,299
  • Oct 9, 2015 5:44pm Oct 9, 2015 5:44pm
hi all

find a broker with low leverage (1:50) and strict margin call if trades entered too much
to demonstrate like mbtrading stopout at 2440
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  • #1,300
  • Oct 9, 2015 7:33pm Oct 9, 2015 7:33pm
Quoting navk
EURGBP : 1minute chart. This week results : 24x5 trading. At times close profits manually. Trade open only by EA 1.6.1. Capital 10k Q setting 325. : Floating maximum at any time this week : 5 %. Returns this week : 6.2 % Q setting 725. Floating maximum at any time this week : 2.5 % Returns this week : 6.6 %. Testing will continue.
Hi,

This week results :

eurgbp pair.

1.6.1 EA original.

725 Q setting.

Capital : 10. 665 k
Profit for this week : 485 $. ( 4.85 % )
Max. Floating : 1.15k. ( 10 % DD )

I have discontinued with 325 Q setting.

Running the EA for 24x5.
Intraday only.
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