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  • #10,301
  • Aug 22, 2015 6:51pm Aug 22, 2015 6:51pm
the O/N $109/108 diag puts performs better, is cheaper to put on, but eats some margin
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  • #10,302
  • Aug 23, 2015 6:06pm Aug 23, 2015 6:06pm
/CL under $39.80 now, a new low.....eyes on SHCOMP as Shanghai opens in a few minutes. The stage is set for a further slide in risk assets....
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  • #10,303
  • Aug 23, 2015 6:19pm Aug 23, 2015 6:19pm
fiber heading for R @ $1.14-$1.15, will be looking at bearish FXE trades
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  • #10,304
  • Aug 23, 2015 6:31pm Aug 23, 2015 6:31pm
I would push this lower, FXE not my meat though, ties up too much margin
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  • #10,305
  • Aug 23, 2015 6:54pm Aug 23, 2015 6:54pm
the entire ytd /ES sideways market bouncing off the 200 sma --- erased in 3 days......how low will she go?
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  • #10,306
  • Edited 8:44pm Aug 23, 2015 7:51pm | Edited 8:44pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote} well $210 would be the Mother of all V-Bottoms, but we'll see. I will be very surprised to see any more daily 50-pt spoos drops next week.... ....unless they're biggern that...
Yikes! ... /ES in free fall, I saw -48....SPY will open at <$192 unless some bulls come out sometime tonight....I have $191 Sept puts short.....lucky me
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  • #10,307
  • Aug 23, 2015 9:53pm Aug 23, 2015 9:53pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote} Yikes! ... /ES in free fall, I saw -48....SPY will open at <$192 unless some bulls come out sometime tonight....I have $191 Sept puts short.....lucky me
Wanted to try to avert my gaze, but couldn't help myself ... . Could now be eyeing the Aug 2014 low ... . Yeesh. I got two SPY IC's on with short put strikes at 190 and 193, so I'm feeling rolls coming on with this dip. Right now, SPX500 at 1929.4 (down 2.26%). SHCOMP down nearly 8.5%.
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  • #10,308
  • Aug 23, 2015 9:57pm Aug 23, 2015 9:57pm
Quoting The Fool
I would push this lower, FXE not my meat though, ties up too much margin {image}
I looked at a variety of put side FXE plays to offset the shot delta in my FXE short call verts, but couldn't get enough juice of anything that was below parity (since that seems to be a constant theme among the talking heads). I may take a second look at something above parity, since it appears we might be in for a bout of dollar weakness here of unknown duration ... .
Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
  • #10,309
  • Aug 23, 2015 10:06pm Aug 23, 2015 10:06pm
Quoting ZebraSquirl
{quote} Wanted to try to avert my gaze, but couldn't help myself ... . Could now be eyeing the Aug 2014 low ... . Yeesh. I got two SPY IC's on with short put strikes at 190 and 193, so I'm feeling rolls coming on with this dip. Right now, SPX500 at 1929.4 (down 2.26%). SHCOMP down nearly 8.5%.
LOOKS like they pulled the plug at Shanghai, it been flatlining for the last hour +......China 1929 deja vu unless they do something....could drag down US indices 20%+......I jumped the gun on Sept $191/$188 SPY put short spreads, but I have VXX long call spreads that will balance out some of the losses if it goes that far....
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  • #10,310
  • Aug 23, 2015 10:18pm Aug 23, 2015 10:18pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote} LOOKS like they pulled the plug at Shanghai, it been flatlining for the last hour +......China 1929 deja vu unless they do something....could drag down US indices 20%+......I jumped the gun on Sept $191/$188 SPY put short spreads, but I have VXX long call spreads that will balance out some of the losses if it goes that far....
Wonder what was going on there ... . 3200 (basically) and dead in the water ... .
Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
  • #10,311
  • Aug 23, 2015 10:20pm Aug 23, 2015 10:20pm
Fuckin axe murder red gash
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  • #10,312
  • Aug 23, 2015 10:31pm Aug 23, 2015 10:31pm
/ES catchin bids now after flirting with almost 60 pts down......but I am still afeared
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  • #10,313
  • Edited Aug 24, 2015 12:04am Aug 23, 2015 10:37pm | Edited Aug 24, 2015 12:04am
sleep tight & good luck, ZS, my brother, & let's say a prayer for the bulls
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  • #10,314
  • Aug 23, 2015 11:15pm Aug 23, 2015 11:15pm
Quoting The Fool
sleep tight & good luck, ZS, my brother, & let's say prayer for the bulls
Poor little fellas ... . Where are the BTFD'ers when you need them? Cowering in the corner like whipped dogs ... .

Fingers crossed for a "turnaround Tuesday." (How else do you expect me to reload short call verts?!).

Good luck to you, too, TF ... .
Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
  • #10,315
  • Aug 23, 2015 11:16pm Aug 23, 2015 11:16pm
Quoting ZebraSquirl
{quote} Poor little fellas ... . Where are the BTFD'ers when you need them? Cowering in the corner like whipped dogs ... . Fingers crossed for a "turnaround Tuesday." (How else do you expect me to reload short call verts?!). Good luck to you, too, TF ... .
I hope we don't get in "The Jackson Hole" ... .
Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
  • #10,316
  • Edited 2:53am Aug 24, 2015 2:41am | Edited 2:53am
-ES down 29 now, up from a 60 drop, looks like we will settle 1950-1960 Monday, unless I'm wrong and NY sells it down again towards the Sunday night lows....

I am closing VXX Oct $17/$18 long calls if I can get >60% of the projected maxP - looking for 70c net or better and the max on the vert is $1.00-$1.15
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #10,317
  • Aug 24, 2015 2:45am Aug 24, 2015 2:45am
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-cr...070348101.html
“The Fed should raise rates, even if the markets sell off; it should be the economy first,” Singapore-based Van-Petersen said Monday. “The very worst thing they could do is let the market dictate what they should do.”

lol......Fed has really screwed the pooch....they could have started doing baby step ffr hikes many months ago.....they've painted themselves into a corner for September
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  • #10,318
  • Aug 24, 2015 7:17am Aug 24, 2015 7:17am
Quoting The Fool
-ES down 29 now, up from a 60 drop, looks like we will settle 1950-1960 Monday, unless I'm wrong and NY sells it down again towards the Sunday night lows.... I am closing VXX Oct $17/$18 long calls if I can get >60% of the projected maxP - looking for 70c net or better and the max on the vert is $1.00-$1.15
hit the jackpot on VXX spreads but could not close the trades with the markets unplugged....
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #10,319
  • Aug 24, 2015 8:02am Aug 24, 2015 8:02am
Quoting Cecil Gee
{quote} thx, you should have time after a bounce to get in. Once I see 90-95$ 0n APPLE I will look to close many positions then wait for the for time and position to ride APPLE back and beyond $150
could not close my positions, no fills. will wait it out. Could even go below $80 during the next ER so thinking on whether to hold till after then
  • #10,320
  • Aug 24, 2015 8:06am Aug 24, 2015 8:06am
Quoting Cecil Gee
{quote} waiting on Euro, FXE to do a 8 month strangle that should be enough time to take it out of ranges that's been laid down over the last couple of months, FXY the YEN will be the next big move, don't ask me direction cus I don't know or bothered, tha is the beauty of trading options
never took the YEN trade as had other positions on already like APPLE and INDEXES as explained in previous posts
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