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Do More Pips = Equal More Profit ?

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  • First Post: Edited Jul 28, 2015 12:02am Jul 27, 2015 4:39pm | Edited Jul 28, 2015 12:02am
  •  mrdetermined
  • | Joined Mar 2015 | Status: Member | 146 Posts
You can never go broke taking pips from the market This rings true more than ever in todays volatile market conditions. The rules of Forex trading have changed, and those who have not adapted have fallen by and never seen. Todays successful traders understand that to earn Consistent Profits for an extended period of time, a small amount of pips earned every day in the long run add up quicker and are more easily attained, than if one was to hold for a long period of time. ( Experience plays a huge role )

While many traders want the glory of the one hundred pip trade or the 1000 pip trade, the truth is these opportunities are a few and far a long, especially for those that don't want to wait that long and it is just not their trading style. I wanted to write about five reasons why short term trading is the embodiment of the phrase You can never go broke taking pips from the market. I hope you find these cases we are going to dive into helpful.

1. Consistency

The more precise on your entry ( depending on your rules) the higher the probability of the trade / better money management can be, can build and increase your confidence much quicker. Once any trader learns the art and science of precise entry and exit points , one can easily begin to scale in and out depending on your position size... This gives the trader more opportunities to take on larger position sizes, such as those of day traders, but with minimal risk associated with smaller pip traders.

2. Fixed Risk

Risk should be the first thing on any traders mind. Every trade that is taken, should be the culmination of a risk and reward trade off, with the trader knowing that the possible gains from the position out weights the risk. When a short term trader enters a position, they are looking for only a few points on the trade, though more pips are always welcome, and set their stops extremely tight. These extremely tight stops are able to defend the trader from unexpected and severe market movements. Obviously who could have predicted an earthquake in Japan or the flash crash of US. Many traders lost a lot of money if not all of it. However most short term traders were safe because they traded with tighter stops, which by doing so you are able to reduce the systematic risk that involves when trading forex.

3. More Opportunities

Short term traders in contrast look for price action and try to make a smaller amount of pips. Given the extreme volatility in the forex market, short term traders are able to find more opportunities to make a small amount of pips. These positions begin to add up very quickly for the trader. ( Only if you know what you are doing, the vice versa would happened if you did not know how to trade )

4. Exponential Returns

One of the most common misconceptions about short term trading is that it takes longer to grow their trading account in large proportions compared to looking for longer term trades. What many new traders fail to realize is that these pips not only add up, but it allows you to increase your positions size according to your leverage as your account grows. Take for example a trader who averages around 7-10 pips a day. These 7-10 pips a day can become any amount of money depending on your leverage, and as the account grows, the position size will grow as well. This is how you can harness the true potential of exponential growth in your trading account.

5. Better Lifestyle

One of the primary reasons I wanted to become a full time forex trader was because I was sold on the idea of having the freedom to work when and where I wanted. By reducing the time spent in the trade, the trader is able to walk away from the computer in the time frame of 2-3 hours per day once the number of pips that are in the business plan achieved. And be able to sleep at night knowing that your position is closed that very same day. By looking for a smaller amount of pips per trade, traders will find more opportunities and remove the stress and emotion often found in styles that require large open positions for an extended amount of time. ( I am not saying that you can't do it, its just for me it was not my type of trading style, so kudos to those that do )

You can also see the trades I post , with a little it of explanation to it as well. I also look at Multiple time-frames and do my analysis like that as well.

: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=550973
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  • Jul 27, 2015 11:51pm Jul 27, 2015 11:51pm
  •  mystic
  • | Joined Jul 2009 | Status: Struggling trader on a mission | 211 Posts
[quote=mrdetermined; And be able to sleep at night knowing that your position is closed that very same day. quote]

I have found that this one fact is the most important for me. Not having the urge to check the charts when you can't sleep at night. Not having to keep checking the mobile app during work. Just being able to put forex out of mind without the fear that something might have happened to upset my position. That is the one key reason why I now have a rule that I never have a trade open unless I am at the screen. That simple rule has turned my trading around.
Holy Grail part 1. - Cut loses short.
 
 
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  • Jul 28, 2015 11:43pm Jul 28, 2015 11:43pm
  •  fiberman
  • | Joined Apr 2012 | Status: Swollen Member | 41 Posts
I am a short term trader - and you hit that one out of the park. Everything you wrote is exactly what I think, it is a great confidence builder to see my reasons for short term trading put down in print by someone else.
 
 
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  • Jul 29, 2015 5:02am Jul 29, 2015 5:02am
  •  cakrajaya
  • Joined Oct 2014 | Status: the mighty duck | 1,035 Posts
and me? I want to be the king of thief....
we don't predict, we only ride
 
 
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  •  mrdetermined
  • | Joined Mar 2015 | Status: Member | 146 Posts
Quoting cakrajaya
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and me? I want to be the king of thief....
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LOL cakrajaya robbing the bank...I like to see it as I am simply a predator , waiting very patiently for the animal ( Market ) to expose itself and then I attack !
 
 
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  •  cakrajaya
  • Joined Oct 2014 | Status: the mighty duck | 1,035 Posts
1000 pips profit. how to achieve 1000 pips profit? it can be done in generally in 2 way. first, single blow 1000 pips. second, 1000 times strike 1 pip.
learn and conquer one style, that I thought is the key to success.
we don't predict, we only ride
 
 
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  •  mrdetermined
  • | Joined Mar 2015 | Status: Member | 146 Posts
Quoting cakrajaya
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1000 pips profit. how to achieve 1000 pips profit? it can be done in generally in 2 way. first, single blow 1000 pips. second, 1000 times strike 1 pip. learn and conquer one style, that I thought is the key to success.
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cool, thanks for sharing.
 
 
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  •  mrdetermined
  • | Joined Mar 2015 | Status: Member | 146 Posts
Quoting fiberman
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I am a short term trader - and you hit that one out of the park. Everything you wrote is exactly what I think, it is a great confidence builder to see my reasons for short term trading put down in print by someone else.
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awesome @Fiberman, hope you had the chance to take a look at my "pips for the day" thread.

thanks for the support.
 
 
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