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  • #21
  • Jul 11, 2015 5:56am Jul 11, 2015 5:56am
does it repaint? that is the issue
  • #22
  • Jul 11, 2015 10:03am Jul 11, 2015 10:03am
Quoting francisakz
does it repaint? that is the issue
No Francisaka
the indicator produces dots once a certain fractal as been formed in conjunction with the Zig Zag indicator
Once a peak as formed and two lower highs then that level is set with three blue
dots So no repainting .
Those dots will increase every hour until another level is developed
The reverse applies to the red dots
  • #23
  • Edited 10:48am Jul 11, 2015 10:33am | Edited 10:48am
Quoting raylin
{quote} I Davit These are arbitrary ema 's . I will look into your suggestions at using a faster ema If I used 7 ema then I would also use the 28 ema as my logic was to pick up the 4 hourly trend as well Also in an earlier version I did incorporate the daily trend which would be the 168 ema in your case . Going over yesterdays trades I see there was a new signal on the Usd/Cad which took place at the same time as the the Euro/Usd signal This trade would have been taken and the original signal deleted giving a overall profit of 13 pips instead of...
Hi Raylin
To me its important to understand fractal nature of the indicator.When fractal occur they are usually last ditch impulse waves of particular swing and often most times its a signal that PA is running out of steam hence continuing same direction of fractal is less edge if you will.
Let me illustrate what I mean.
Notice on my chart just about every time after livery signal PA went opposite direction.
I have been trading double Bollinger bands for years and BB 2nd 3rd deviations often signal exhaustion levels which your indicator shows as well.
To me once your indicators paints a signal it should be interpreted as signal for direction change as this shows tail end of the move.
My inputs should not deter you what you are doing but thought to share my insight whatever its worth.
I put the arrows myself to illustrate my point.
REgards

Forgot to mention you can trade TDI cross same as MA's
My set up is faster then default
8 5 2
Default is
13 7 2 basically same as MA's cross over but with TDI it shows exhaustion levels better OB OS (although price can stay OB OS prolong period of time and should only be used as guideline but not trading signal as most rookies do)
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  • #24
  • Jul 11, 2015 10:52am Jul 11, 2015 10:52am
I placed TDI crosses vertical line and check marks to illustrate how TDI cross can work effectively
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  • #25
  • Jul 11, 2015 11:35am Jul 11, 2015 11:35am
Hi Davit You system looks really interesting
This probably works for you as you are trading all day long
I can see you are taking the trades off the bounce off the fractal were as I am using the fractal
as a trend continuation indicator.
The reason I developed this strategy is that I can put my trades on before the market opens .
By 10.00 am uk time is the last time I need to adjust my trades ie Set and forget
As I said previously I am achieving an 80% plus strike rate .I have forwarded tested for a number of months
and taking live trades on certain pairs
Very cautious in the last few weeks because of the Greek debacle but hope to start with a 500 live account next week
If successful I will open up my trading explorer to the public
  • #26
  • Jul 11, 2015 2:17pm Jul 11, 2015 2:17pm
Quoting Davit
I placed TDI crosses vertical line and check marks to illustrate how TDI cross can work effectively {image}
Please post ur TDI indicator. Thanks
  • #27
  • Jul 11, 2015 8:46pm Jul 11, 2015 8:46pm
Quoting francisakz
{quote} Please post ur TDI indicator. Thanks
There are many versions but this is the original.
You may want to check threads trading with TDI as there are lot of nuances.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=291622
Trading Made Simple
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=526735
TMS for M30 charts
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  • #28
  • Jul 11, 2015 8:47pm Jul 11, 2015 8:47pm
Quoting raylin
Hi Davit You system looks really interesting This probably works for you as you are trading all day long I can see you are taking the trades off the bounce off the fractal were as I am using the fractal as a trend continuation indicator. The reason I developed this strategy is that I can put my trades on before the market opens . By 10.00 am uk time is the last time I need to adjust my trades ie Set and forget As I said previously I am achieving an 80% plus strike rate .I have forwarded tested for a number of months and taking live trades on certain...
Totally understand you
All the best
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  • #29
  • Jul 12, 2015 1:36am Jul 12, 2015 1:36am
Just updated 1st post to highlight other rules to the system
  • #30
  • Jul 12, 2015 3:25am Jul 12, 2015 3:25am
Quoting raylin
Simple set up 1 Install the Livelli indicator onto any 1 hour forex chart 2 Change the emas to 7 and 28 as suggested by Davit 3 Place a vertical line on the chart at the start of the European or Uk session 4 If the 7 and 28ema have crossed and sloping up I would place 2 buy stop trades on the blue dots above the vertical line at the beginning of the session 5 Both trades should have a stop loss of 50 pips with one trade taking profit of 10 pips while the other trade is moved to break even and a trailing stop is given 6 Ema down trend ema crossed...
Hi,
I put emas to 7 and 28 (simple-close)? but on my sreen is not like on yours. Your file does not have indicator emas? Can you please send us with all indicators, is it possible. Thanks , Best Regards
  • #31
  • Jul 12, 2015 4:32am Jul 12, 2015 4:32am
The original ema,s were 20 and 80 ( exponential close) so a number of graphs displays those indicators.
I have now modified the system to 7 ,28 exponential moving average close as suggested by Davit
Its entirely up to you how you trade the system if you use a faster moving average you have more trades
Initially i was using a 20,80, and 480 moving average.
Sometimes I found the 1 hour and the 4 hour trend was giving me clear signals but the daily trend kept
me out of trades
ie 20 ema daily equals 480 ema on hourly.
Basically this system is just another break out strategy .
I do not cancel trades just before the news I just try for 10 pips on the first trade and take a free
ride on the 2nd trade
Live long and prosper
  • #32
  • Jul 12, 2015 5:03am Jul 12, 2015 5:03am
Hi to all!
David can you plese shar all your incators and your template?
Thx alot!
  • #33
  • Jul 12, 2015 12:35pm Jul 12, 2015 12:35pm
Quoting maxtill
Hi to all! David can you plese shar all your incators and your template? Thx alot!
Here you go
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  • #34
  • Jul 12, 2015 2:37pm Jul 12, 2015 2:37pm
Raylin,

Thanks for sharing your system.

Seems if you are risking 50 pips to get 10 (first part of the trade), then at 80% win rate you are breaking even on that part of the trade. Are you making your profits on the second part of the trade that you let run?
  • #35
  • Jul 12, 2015 11:20pm Jul 12, 2015 11:20pm
Hi guys,

I would to know if i'm on the right street.

These are the 1h graph of:

gbpusd: pending order buy 1.5521 sl 1.5466 (on the red dots)
eurjpy: pending order buy 136.815 sl 135.549
usdjpy: pending order buy 122.869 sl 122.168.

For you is ok?

Thank you.
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  • #36
  • Jul 12, 2015 11:46pm Jul 12, 2015 11:46pm
Thank You Raylin...Much appreciated...Good luck with your system, I am looking forward to testing this.
  • #37
  • Jul 12, 2015 11:55pm Jul 12, 2015 11:55pm
Hi Davit,

Quote; To me its important to understand fractal nature of the indicator.When fractal occur they are usually last ditch impulse waves of particular swing and often most times its a signal that PA is running out of steam hence continuing same direction of fractal is less edge if you will.
Let me illustrate what I mean.
Notice on my chart just about every time after livery signal PA went opposite direction.
I have been trading double Bollinger bands for years and BB 2nd 3rd deviations often signal exhaustion levels which your indicator shows as well.
To me once your indicators paints a signal it should be interpreted as signal for direction change as this shows tail end of the move.
My inputs should not deter you what you are doing but thought to share my insight whatever its worth.
I put the arrows myself to illustrate my point.
REgards

Forgot to mention you can trade TDI cross same as MA's
My set up is faster then default
8 5 2
Default is
13 7 2 basically same as MA's cross over but with TDI it shows exhaustion levels better OB OS (although price can stay OB OS prolong period of time and should only be used as guideline but not trading signal as most rookies do)

This is a great different angle on the system Davit. The indicators and system you posted above, can this be taken and used on a 30minute timeframe to the same effect? I have been playing around with BB for sometime and like the idea of incorporating the TDI as you have shown, this new indicator looks to put the icing on the cake. I am an intraday trader so I am looking for a number of set ups each day, so maybe the shorter timeframe can give this, but without compromising the results of your system?

Best Regards
  • #38
  • Jul 13, 2015 12:04am Jul 13, 2015 12:04am
Yes Toscano those standing orders look good
I would also be in on /Jpy under normal circumstances but a bit wary of Greek crisis
All trades look like they are in profit with free rides
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  • #39
  • Jul 13, 2015 12:20am Jul 13, 2015 12:20am
Quoting raylin
Yes Toscano those standing orders look good I would also be in on /Jpy under normal circumstances but a bit wary of Greek crisis All trades look like they are in profit with free rides {image}
Thank you Raylin for your confirmation
  • #40
  • Jul 13, 2015 12:22am Jul 13, 2015 12:22am
Toscano
/usd +12
Euro/Jpy +65
Usd/Jpy +11

88 pips profit in less than an hour using 20 pips trailing stop
Time to pack up for the day
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