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  • #141
  • Aug 11, 2006 10:33pm Aug 11, 2006 10:33pm
My subconscious does all my typing ... well a lot of it. Now perfecting trading is where I need the juice! LOL
  • #142
  • Aug 11, 2006 11:27pm Aug 11, 2006 11:27pm
Quoting bundyraider
A great way to figure out what happens there is to keep a journal of your trades.

Quite often you'll look back and see something you wrote that broke your rules.

Like forgetting to look at the larger time frame and realising that you tried to trade against the trend, or had tried to pick a top/bottom in the market. Through fear of missing out on getting in early you Sell on a break of the up trend only to have the market bounce back up as part of a cosolidation period.

At the least the journal will help identify situations that your method doesn't work, or problems with your mentallity.
Good point! Especially about picking top/bottom... hm.
  • #143
  • Aug 12, 2006 12:56am Aug 12, 2006 12:56am
Quoting skyline
Uao OrangeRoshan that's impressive!
Is it possible to have some documentations about your Tiga Abdul system trading?


thanks
Thanks. I did a rush job doing the early version of Tiga Abdul method. After reading this, go thru this thread and incorporate the tlatomi method. You cant go wrong.

Happy Trading!
Attached File(s)
File Type: pdf TIGA ABDUL.pdf   163 KB | 3,595 downloads
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #144
  • Aug 12, 2006 12:59am Aug 12, 2006 12:59am
Quoting ut2DaMax
would you be willing to share you're EA WITH US so we can PIP sooner and better??? I would even pay you for it. You are the GUY we all admire!!! Help us PLEASE! I want to have an EA eventually that will make me big money too! LOL .... THANKS for all you have done for us Newbies here. I am still trying to get this down. THANKS TO ALL YOU PIPSTERS SHARING HERE WHAT YOU KNOW!!!
I must apologise the EA doesnt belong to me alone. When we decided to make it available, i will post it here at FF. For the meantime, study the methods here and you will join the Pipster club sooner than you think!

Thanks
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #145
  • Aug 12, 2006 1:14am Aug 12, 2006 1:14am
Quoting spartan
Yeah, right. I often wonder how I got home alive when I don't remember anything!

But seriously, I'm no psychologist though it's well known that subconscious mind picks up a lot more than conscious mind does.
If you ever wondered like me how you got yourself into a trade where right after you took a position, the market starts to move against you and very fast too; the answer to that common occurence may be that your subconscious knew where the market was going but your lack of self-esteem led you to the losing trade situation.
After a couple of trades like that in a row, I wondered if this world happened to revolve around me but I guess it would be more understandable if my subconscious mind knew where the market was going.

What do you guys think about it?
Maybe that's why psychology plays a big role in trading.

Spa
Trust the method 100%.

Remember what nike says, "JUST DO IT". There will be losing trades, but there will be more winning trades. When you keep to the normal 2% Risk Management model, it should be profitable.

When entering a trade, you must be emotionless. The method says, enter Long; with proper Sl & TP; ENTER and log it into your journal. Dont even look at the chart to see where it is going. When it makes, it makes, when it doesnt, it doesnt. I will spend my time studying other currencies looking for the next signal.

Dont cloud your thinking with things like, "Is it going the right way?", or "Oh my god, why is it -10 pips?" or "I should have done the reverse, damn!"

The method works. The winning trades outnumbered the losing trades. But, indecisive attiude & fear will make a winning strategy a losing one. Look at the backtesting results i posted. It has a sizeable losing trades also, but its still positive due to more winnings. Thats why I posted it. Its the only rule (out of 3) that I can give, MOTIVATION. To master the other 2, you must learn to tame the beast inside you.

Stick to the 2% RM and trade with confidence.

I hope that helps a bit.

"The enemy has been discovered! The only enemy you have is YOU!"
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #146
  • Aug 12, 2006 1:54am Aug 12, 2006 1:54am
Quoting OrangeRoshan
Thanks. I did a rush job doing the early version of Tiga Abdul method. After reading this, go thru this thread and incorporate the tlatomi method. You cant go wrong.

Happy Trading!
THANKS A LOT Orange, really appreciate it !
  • #147
  • Aug 12, 2006 3:00am Aug 12, 2006 3:00am
Quoting JBB
I think about it all the time and wonder if I should do the opposite of what I want to do. I mean to short when I want to go long and so on.
That might make you a millionaire really fast!
But isn't that why some say brokers trade against you to make money though?

Spa
  • #148
  • Aug 12, 2006 3:29am Aug 12, 2006 3:29am
Quoting OrangeRoshan
Trust the method 100%.

Remember what nike says, "JUST DO IT". There will be losing trades, but there will be more winning trades. When you keep to the normal 2% Risk Management model, it should be profitable.

When entering a trade, you must be emotionless. The method says, enter Long; with proper Sl & TP; ENTER and log it into your journal. Dont even look at the chart to see where it is going. When it makes, it makes, when it doesnt, it doesnt. I will spend my time studying other currencies looking for the next signal.

Dont cloud your thinking with things like, "Is it going the right way?", or "Oh my god, why is it -10 pips?" or "I should have done the reverse, damn!"

The method works. The winning trades outnumbered the losing trades. But, indecisive attiude & fear will make a winning strategy a losing one. Look at the backtesting results i posted. It has a sizeable losing trades also, but its still positive due to more winnings. Thats why I posted it. Its the only rule (out of 3) that I can give, MOTIVATION. To master the other 2, you must learn to tame the beast inside you.

Stick to the 2% RM and trade with confidence.

I hope that helps a bit.

"The enemy has been discovered! The only enemy you have is YOU!"
OrangeRoshan,

thank you so much for another great post.
I will "just do it" from next week!

Spa
  • #149
  • Aug 12, 2006 3:40am Aug 12, 2006 3:40am
Quoting ut2DaMax
My subconscious does all my typing ... well a lot of it. Now perfecting trading is where I need the juice! LOL
You know how useful your unconscious mind has been for you...train it and the juice will come to you!
  • #150
  • Aug 12, 2006 3:43am Aug 12, 2006 3:43am
Hi OrangeRoshan,

I have been reading this thread and appreciate your generosity.

I am confused. Do you trade 30min,1hr or 4hr chart ? It seems you look at all of them.

Happy trading !!!
The future depends on what we do in the present.
  • #151
  • Aug 12, 2006 5:59am Aug 12, 2006 5:59am
I originally placed the indicators on the Esignal charts. I am assuming you can only use the indicators on Meta Trader4.
  • #152
  • Aug 12, 2006 6:05am Aug 12, 2006 6:05am
Quoting MissForex
I originally placed the indicators on the Esignal charts. I am assuming you can only use the indicators on Meta Trader4.
That's correct. You can only use them on MetaTrader.

Spa
  • #153
  • Aug 12, 2006 7:33am Aug 12, 2006 7:33am
Thank you Spartan
  • #154
  • Aug 12, 2006 11:11am Aug 12, 2006 11:11am
Quoting judex001
Hi,

After several weeks of succesfull trading with this method, i decide to post it because I'm sure that some of you can find it helpful and others can improve it.

You can find the method in the pdf attached.

Feel free to test it and all your remarks, opinions are welcome.

Thanks

8/08/2006 - a new version of the pdf thanks to the comments

Can you advise how this gets setup and used? I'm a novice here and have been looking at the tunnel from Vegas and Sidus and wondered how your script works. I have it installed in Metatrader 4.0 and it seems to run but i'm not getting the pictures seen here by the group?" Would appreciate any guidance provided.

Thanks

Rich
  • #155
  • Aug 12, 2006 12:56pm Aug 12, 2006 12:56pm
Im releasing PDF on Tiga Abdul using tlatomi method within this few days. Stay excited!
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #156
  • Aug 12, 2006 1:02pm Aug 12, 2006 1:02pm
Quoting OrangeRoshan
Im releasing PDF on Tiga Abdul using tlatomi method within this few days. Stay excited!
OrangeRoshan.......the waiting and the teasing is killing me.....lol


thankyou for taking time to help us newbie.....have a nice weekend
  • #157
  • Aug 12, 2006 1:47pm Aug 12, 2006 1:47pm
Quoting sovo1970
OrangeRoshan.......the waiting and the teasing is killing me.....lol


thankyou for taking time to help us newbie.....have a nice weekend
Its sooner tha you think.

Here it is. I hope this will fit your trading style. Anyone would like to make an EA for this?

Make Pips not War!
Attached File(s)
File Type: pdf TIGA ABDUL with Tlatomi method.pdf   116 KB | 2,957 downloads
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #158
  • Aug 12, 2006 2:02pm Aug 12, 2006 2:02pm
Here are the indicators i use.

To Judex001:

Thank you my friend. tlatomi is a great system!
Welldone!
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 FX_Sniper's_Ergodic_CCI_Trigger.mq4   4 KB | 1,412 downloads
File Type: mq4 5&9 MA_Crossover_Signal.mq4   4 KB | 1,887 downloads
File Type: mq4 SHI_SilverTrendSig.mq4   4 KB | 1,396 downloads
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #159
  • Aug 12, 2006 2:09pm Aug 12, 2006 2:09pm
Quoting OrangeRoshan
Its sooner tha you think.

Here it is. I hope this will fit your trading style. Anyone would like to make an EA for this?

Make Pips not War!
Orange, thanks for the pdf summary. I think the method is excellent and in forward testing it works very well. However, I cant agree with your exit strategy. Exiting 50% of your size after 10 pips when trading off the hourly is seriously cutting your profits short. Instead, you should be riding the trend until the market tells you to get off (new dot appearing in the case of this method). Personally, I exit according to the pair that I am trading. As a general guide, for Cable, USD/JPY, USD/CHF and GBP/JPY, I would have 30 SL and 60 TP1 (Scale out 50% of size; move stop to b/e and let remaining 50% run to secondary signal of trend change). For the other pairs, I would have SL 20 and TP1 40.

As satisfiying as it may seem to bag 10 pips, you are limiting yourself in the long run, particularly if you are trading off the hourly.

Just my 0.02
  • #160
  • Aug 12, 2006 2:29pm Aug 12, 2006 2:29pm
Quoting Zuke
Orange, thanks for the pdf summary. I think the method is excellent and in forward testing it works very well. However, I cant agree with your exit strategy. Exiting 50% of your size after 10 pips when trading off the hourly is seriously cutting your profits short. Instead, you should be riding the trend until the market tells you to get off (new dot appearing in the case of this method). Personally, I exit according to the pair that I am trading. As a general guide, for Cable, USD/JPY, USD/CHF and GBP/JPY, I would have 30 SL and 60 TP1 (Scale out 50% of size; move stop to b/e and let remaining 50% run to secondary signal of trend change). For the other pairs, I would have SL 20 and TP1 40.

As satisfiying as it may seem to bag 10 pips, you are limiting yourself in the long run, particularly if you are trading off the hourly.

Just my 0.02
Thanks Zuke for the comments. I understand what you mean by limiting yourself in the long run and I very much agree with you.

However, the PDF is focus mainly for newbies. Riding on a winning trade is usually not a good idea. It can turn into nightmares very quickly, when you know what I mean.

You sounded like an experienced trader, and that is fantastic. Your comment and suggestion should be taken and followed. It is also what I might do in many instances. But, i always give a simple solution to newbies, so that they can develop the skill required to ride on a winning trade, in due time.

Another thing about the 10pip exit is actually an excellent strategy. In the world of Professional trading; its not how many pips you can make, but how many pips you can keep. Its how you trade not how many pips you can make. But, a pro with a discipline trading and making tons of pips are also good! Heheee...

My point is this:

EURUSD
10pips x 1lot (100,000)= $100
10pips x 10lots = $1,000
10pips x 100lots = $10,000
10pips x 1,000lots = $100,000

Rob Booker a renowned trader & mentor also recomends it. Check out www.robbooker.com

Notice I didnt mentioned about the pairs I traded or even the stoploss & takeprofits in the PDF? Exit strategy is purely depends on the size of ones account and trading lots. I keep it an open book for anyone to suggest and learn. Your post will help others to iddentify their preferences.

But, for newbie, I still suggest 10pips. You know what, positive pis are much better than negative pips! And theres always other signal that you can trade on.

Thanks for the wonderful suggestions, I really appreciate it.
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
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