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  • #1
  • First Post: Jul 12, 2006 1:11am Jul 12, 2006 1:11am
Hi Folks !

At the moment I'm reading Mark Fishers book
"The Logical Trader" and be very impressed about his method.

Can some of you tell me where I can get the daily ACD values
to setup my charts ?

It would be fine if you can give your comments about this method !

Greetings from Essen in Germany

Bernhard
  • #2
  • Aug 11, 2006 3:45am Aug 11, 2006 3:45am
Well the A and C values can be obtained like this

A= 10% of ATR
C= 1.5 * A

Well it's all very mixed. The A and C values aren't that important, you can use your own. I have the indicators for ACD, pivot range and 3 days rolling pivot but i dont really know how to upload them.
  • #3
  • Aug 11, 2006 6:02am Aug 11, 2006 6:02am
Quoting JodyOng
Well the A and C values can be obtained like this

A= 10% of ATR
C= 1.5 * A

Well it's all very mixed. The A and C values aren't that important, you can use your own. I have the indicators for ACD, pivot range and 3 days rolling pivot but i dont really know how to upload them.

I have not done it before but it looks like you need to click "Attach Files to Your Post" button under Additional Options that you see right below where you post your message. Then Browse and Upload and you're done.

Spa
  • #4
  • Aug 12, 2006 12:18am Aug 12, 2006 12:18am
Alright here's the indicators =) hope they help
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 ACD1.mq4   6 KB | 5,036 downloads
File Type: mq4 ACD2.mq4   3 KB | 3,572 downloads
File Type: mq4 ACD3.mq4   3 KB | 3,577 downloads
  • #5
  • Aug 21, 2006 3:23am Aug 21, 2006 3:23am
Quoting JodyOng
Well the A and C values can be obtained like this

A= 10% of ATR
C= 1.5 * A

Well it's all very mixed. The A and C values aren't that important, you can use your own. I have the indicators for ACD, pivot range and 3 days rolling pivot but i dont really know how to upload them.
wats ATR?
  • #6
  • Aug 21, 2006 5:04am Aug 21, 2006 5:04am
ATR stands for Average True Range
  • #7
  • Aug 21, 2006 5:33am Aug 21, 2006 5:33am
Quoting JodyOng
ATR stands for Average True Range
And True Range is essentially range, but it will use the close of the previous bar as either the high or the low if it is greater than the high or low. Basically it takes into account gaps in the range calculations.
In trading you are only as smart as your dumbest mistake. - Ralph Vince
  • #8
  • Aug 21, 2006 5:39am Aug 21, 2006 5:39am
I have the logical Trader. There are some vidoes of Mark Fisher talking about it on the NYMEX web site. Definitly worth a look, he is enjoyable to listen to. Understanding the C concept is really interesting. If you spot a C trade it means that the rest of the market has taken an A trade and is caught out. It is a nice genral idea for trading if you can pick trades where everybody wants to get out of there position quickly, and you're on the right side of the trade. Bwuhahaha

SilverB
In trading you are only as smart as your dumbest mistake. - Ralph Vince
  • #9
  • Aug 21, 2006 9:13am Aug 21, 2006 9:13am
when you apply the ACD concept to forex, which time frame do you use for the opening range for the gbp/usd

would that be the london open?
  • #10
  • Aug 27, 2006 4:56pm Aug 27, 2006 4:56pm
Yea you would use the london opening. However I'm trying out whether using the new york opening would be better. It seems so from what i see though.
  • #11
  • Sep 1, 2006 5:34am Sep 1, 2006 5:34am

Quoting JodyOng
Alright here's the indicators =) hope they help
can u explain how to use them?

  • #12
  • Aug 22, 2009 3:35pm Aug 22, 2009 3:35pm
this message is for Spartan and other members. The ACD method developed by Mark Fisher is not based on ATR. It is based on daily Open range and A up/down and Cup/down are counted every day depending on Open range. I use this levels of 10% of ATR and 22% of ATR as refrence points in my charts , sometimes for exit from opened positions.
  • #13
  • Aug 22, 2009 5:23pm Aug 22, 2009 5:23pm
I can provide you AC levels.
what vihicle do you trade ?
  • #14
  • Aug 31, 2009 11:14am Aug 31, 2009 11:14am
Quoting talko63
I can provide you AC levels.
what vihicle do you trade ?
Hey, talko63:

Sounds as if you have some experience with this. I just came across this method on another site and am intrigued enough to give it a look-see. Am trading E/U, G/U and U/Y. Greatly appreciate your input. Thanks.

Steve
  • #15
  • Sep 2, 2009 7:09am Sep 2, 2009 7:09am
Hi.
I also trade E-U, G-U, I don't like U-J last time. I also trade Usd-CAD , USD-CHF, AUD-USD. I dependes on these vihicles conditions.
I use ensign that plots Aup/down and Cup/down levels every day.
I use 10 min open range, but I always check 5,15,30 mn Open ranges for filtering. I also added 22% and 10% of ATRs levels from the open range above and below the open range as reference points. I devide logically the market on 2 parts - day session and premarket. You can use 2 day sessions per 1 day.
the 1st - 02:30-16:00 Eastern time( opening of european markets coming through US market day session hours)
The 2nd - 08:30-16:00 of Eastern time ( opening of American markets for futures).

Check these pics.
http://i29.tinypic.com/migl7n.png
http://i29.tinypic.com/vdmv85.png
http://i30.tinypic.com/2a78j1h.png
http://i30.tinypic.com/sfkwm9.jpg

I don't use ACD method as my major method of trading,
I also use some volume spread analisys, such as climatic volumes, tests from professional money etc.
Firstly You have to learn Fisher's book - Logical trader.
There are many componets you have to know.
if you have any questions I will be happy to help you.
good luck
talko63
  • #16
  • Sep 2, 2009 7:11am Sep 2, 2009 7:11am
Hi.
I also trade E-U, G-U, I don't like U-J last time. I also trade Usd-CAD , USD-CHF, AUD-USD. I dependes on these vihicles conditions.
I use ensign that plots Aup/down and Cup/down levels every day.
I use 10 min open range, but I always check 5,15,30 mn Open ranges for filtering. I also added 22% and 10% of ATRs levels from the open range above and below the open range as reference points. I devide logically the market on 2 parts - day session and premarket. You can use 2 day sessions per 1 day.
the 1st - 02:30-16:00 Eastern time( opening of european markets coming through US market day session hours)
The 2nd - 08:30-16:00 of Eastern time ( opening of American markets for futures).

Check these pics.
http://i29.tinypic.com/migl7n.png
http://i29.tinypic.com/vdmv85.png
http://i30.tinypic.com/2a78j1h.png
http://i30.tinypic.com/sfkwm9.jpg

I don't use ACD method as my major method of trading,
I also use some volume spread analisys, such as climatic volumes, tests from professional money etc.
Firstly You have to learn Fisher's book - Logical trader.
There are many componets you have to know.
if you have any questions I will be happy to help you.
good luck
talko63

Quoting SMScom
Hey, talko63:

Sounds as if you have some experience with this. I just came across this method on another site and am intrigued enough to give it a look-see. Am trading E/U, G/U and U/Y. Greatly appreciate your input. Thanks.

Steve
  • #17
  • Sep 2, 2009 8:11am Sep 2, 2009 8:11am
Quote
Yea you would use the london opening. However I'm trying out whether using the new york opening would be better. It seems so from what i see though.

If experience shows you that using NY's open gives better results, then there it is. But I look for breakouts based on the London Open. Moneyhackers tracks the hourly volatility and the greatest increase in range is at London's open.

That's also how I measure my day for calculating the ATR. By the way, I take 20 days worth. Anyone have an argument for a different parameter?
  • #18
  • Feb 1, 2010 1:50am Feb 1, 2010 1:50am
Quoting SMScom
Hey, talko63:

Sounds as if you have some experience with this. I just came across this method on another site and am intrigued enough to give it a look-see. Am trading E/U, G/U and U/Y. Greatly appreciate your input. Thanks.

Steve
Hi Steve.
Sorry for the delay.
Please, let me know if you are still interesting with ACD levels.

talko63
  • #19
  • Feb 5, 2010 12:40am Feb 5, 2010 12:40am
Yes!
We have still interest in this system.

Can you share your experiences/indicators/tips?

Thanks.


Quoting talko63
Hi Steve.
Sorry for the delay.
Please, let me know if you are still interesting with ACD levels.

talko63
  • #20
  • Feb 8, 2010 5:22am Feb 8, 2010 5:22am
I use parts of the ACD.
Some of its very good. Some is ok.
I haven't really explored macro ACD, nor the patterns that Fisher recommends.

I'd be keen to discuss with fellow ACD'ers.
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