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  • #8,401
  • Jun 1, 2015 9:44am Jun 1, 2015 9:44am
Quoting shum
H4 chart show the target - fibo 61.8 - 1300 pips from here D1 show 2000 pips {image} {image}
is that spudfib indicator or standard fib tool?
  • #8,402
  • Jun 1, 2015 9:51am Jun 1, 2015 9:51am
Quoting braveh4rt
{quote} Yes..me to worried. From $100 + become $10 ...oh what an emotion swing.. US is good news, so it down. we all selling right. @shum.. You are experience on the pullback...double profit when pullback you enter again. i see the US is strong, all news is good about us now.
to be so sure like me, you must understand what is a pullback and whay it hapened, i was now that will be a pullback there.
The key is 2 MA
when price go to far from MA, or trend reverse, or first drop on new trend( the same, price go far from MA)..in all this moments price come back to retest the MA and show as that price its make real reverse, how we now that?
well when price make pullback, this is mean that 2MA will make a cross eachother..
so where we have here a cross?
look on H4 chart, there is a cross of 2 MA, price come to this cross level(pullback) and make this decision, is like this------ candle go up, tuch the upper MA, then pull this MA down to cross the lower MA, so this how is hapening cross of MA, price come to make this(not in the all cases, but allmoste all of them), and this is a signal for start of new trend.
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  • #8,403
  • Jun 1, 2015 9:52am Jun 1, 2015 9:52am
Quoting shum
H4 chart show the target - fibo 61.8 - 1300 pips from here D1 show 2000 pips {image} {image}
Now i understand where you got the 2000 pip target to close.

So you will target on 61 fib retrace Shum ? This is long term view.. nice..

I think will take a while to reach that. maybe this week until NFP ..who knows..even NFP make it faster... FED increase rate , that i hear on the news .. but who knows.
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  • #8,404
  • Jun 1, 2015 9:54am Jun 1, 2015 9:54am
Quoting yorkshirelad
{quote} is that spudfib indicator or standard fib tool?
standard fibo.
  • #8,405
  • Jun 1, 2015 10:03am Jun 1, 2015 10:03am
Quoting braveh4rt
{quote} Now i understand where you got the 2000 pip target to close. So you will target on 61 fib retrace Shum ? This is long term view.. nice.. I think will take a while to reach that. maybe this week until NFP ..who knows..even NFP make it faster... FED increase rate , that i hear on the news .. but who knows.
yes this where i have tg, simple thinks, and this thinks work very well.
  • #8,406
  • Jun 1, 2015 10:06am Jun 1, 2015 10:06am
Quoting shum
{quote} to be so sure like me, you must understand what is a pullback and whay it hapened, i was now that will be a pullback there. The key is 2 MA when price go to far from MA, or trend reverse, or first drop on new trend( the same, price go far from MA)..in all this moments price come back to retest the MA and show as that price its make real reverse, how we now that? well when price make pullback, this is mean that 2MA will make a cross eachother.. so where we have here a cross? look on H4 chart, there is a cross of 2 MA, price come to this cross...
Thanks for the explanation Shum, appreciate this. keep learn more and never enough

and in your chart is sonic dragon , and the red line is what MA setup?

is it the same with HAS ? with HAS it cross quite far, maybe around 20 pips.

I know that the pullback to cross HAS is the start of trend also from reading previous thread which using HAS setup from 1st page . Yes i do my homework
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  • #8,407
  • Jun 1, 2015 10:10am Jun 1, 2015 10:10am
Quoting braveh4rt
{quote} Thanks for the explanation Shum, appreciate this. keep learn more and never enough and in your chart is sonic dragon , and the red line is what MA setup? is it the same with HAS ? with HAS it cross quite far, maybe around 20 pips. I know that the pullback to cross HAS is the start of trend also from reading previous thread which using HAS setup from 1st page . Yes i do my homework
yes sonic dragon, the red line its on this idi too, its standart, i dont put anything( sonic solid dragon)

it have the same parametres like 2 MA ro HAS, and is not need to be changed. just put it and use it.
  • #8,408
  • Jun 1, 2015 10:10am Jun 1, 2015 10:10am
Quoting shum
{quote} yes this where i have tg, simple thinks, and this thinks work very well.
Agree with you. Now i have new knowledge for long term fibo target.

Usually i use the fibe extension for short term target, as in my prev chart, price is reverse when reach 127 or 167 extension of fibo.

So i think i will set target also to the 2000 pip area of fibo.. dont want to close to fast and try re enter again.
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  • #8,409
  • Jun 1, 2015 10:17am Jun 1, 2015 10:17am
Quoting shum
{quote} yes sonic dragon, the red line its on this idi too, its standart, i dont put anything( sonic solid dragon) it have the same parametres like 2 MA ro HAS, and is not need to be changed. just put it and use it.
Ah yes, i see now. Put the sonic and it also come with the red lines.

2 MA ro HAS , is this the HAS we use, 2-15-2-15 in M15 TF, and 2-3-2-4 on H1 ?

Only no color change if on sonic right.
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  • #8,410
  • Jun 1, 2015 10:20am Jun 1, 2015 10:20am
Quoting braveh4rt
{quote} Agree with you. Now i have new knowledge for long term fibo target. Usually i use the fibe extension for short term target, as in my prev chart, price is reverse when reach 127 or 167 extension of fibo. So i think i will set target also to the 2000 pip area of fibo.. dont want to close to fast and try re enter again.
i dont use fibo all the time, i used just to see where is the price at the moment, when price is in flat, indecision, this help mee to understand what rpice doo, where it mey go.. like last week price wasn drop, it was stay at 23 fibo.
i show you the fibo to understand what it show demark trendlines, they show the same tg, coz demark use the same fibo automaticly, and have tg fibo 61.
so i now where is targhet using just demark trendline, without fibo tool.
  • #8,411
  • Jun 1, 2015 10:22am Jun 1, 2015 10:22am
Quoting braveh4rt
{quote} Ah yes, i see now. Put the sonic and it also come with the red lines. 2 MA ro HAS , is this the HAS we use, 2-15-2-15 in M15 TF, and 2-3-2-4 on H1 ? Only no color change if on sonic right.
i do not remebrer parametres of HAS or ema now, just put the dragon and enjoy.
  • #8,412
  • Jun 1, 2015 10:36am Jun 1, 2015 10:36am
Quoting shum
{quote} i dont use fibo all the time, i used just to see where is the price at the moment, when price is in flat, indecision, this help mee to understand what rpice doo, where it mey go.. like last week price wasn drop, it was stay at 23 fibo. i show you the fibo to understand what it show demark trendlines, they show the same tg, coz demark use the same fibo automaticly, and have tg fibo 61. so i now where is targhet using just demark trendline, without fibo tool.
Can you explain what you mean by using the demark trendline how does this point to a possible target? Are you able to give an example om the chart, cheers mate.
  • #8,413
  • Jun 1, 2015 10:53am Jun 1, 2015 10:53am
Quoting yorkshirelad
{quote} Can you explain what you mean by using the demark trendline how does this point to a possible target? Are you able to give an example om the chart, cheers mate.
this is the tg form demark trendline indi
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  • #8,414
  • Jun 1, 2015 11:33am Jun 1, 2015 11:33am
Quoting shum
{quote} this is the tg form demark trendline indi {image}
So demark indi is using fibo 61 for target.

i try it on H1 also quite accurate, but in M15 not quite if have only 1000 bars. but i draw the target.

Do you set all Tg with demark Shum?

and also for using sonic, how is the entry, is just use CCI ?

i use ema 34 which is line in the midle of dragon, but not the 89 ema.

if using HAS we know, if red it short, if blue it long.

Thanks
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  • #8,415
  • Jun 1, 2015 12:37pm Jun 1, 2015 12:37pm
Quoting braveh4rt
{quote} So demark indi is using fibo 61 for target. i try it on H1 also quite accurate, but in M15 not quite if have only 1000 bars. but i draw the target. Do you set all Tg with demark Shum? and also for using sonic, how is the entry, is just use CCI ? i use ema 34 which is line in the midle of dragon, but not the 89 ema. if using HAS we know, if red it short, if blue it long. Thanks
i use demark like tg just on big tf like H4 and D1, some times for m15 or h1, but if i will see cci candle change color on H1, H4, i will exit too from this trade.

looks like my trade are in troble now again, we didn go down coz jp4 basket give buy signal, and this is very bad for core5 basket where we have 3 jpy pairs. This two baskets must to be corelated for price to drop or go up, but now C5 will stay in indecision mode again..
  • #8,416
  • Jun 1, 2015 1:17pm Jun 1, 2015 1:17pm
Quoting shum
{quote} i use demark like tg just on big tf like H4 and D1, some times for m15 or h1, but if i will see cci candle change color on H1, H4, i will exit too from this trade. looks like my trade are in troble now again, we didn go down coz jp4 basket give buy signal, and this is very bad for core5 basket where we have 3 jpy pairs. This two baskets must to be corelated for price to drop or go up, but now C5 will stay in indecision mode again..
Mine to still not close, it retrace back again. in M15 it hit 100 Extension resistant and go down now away from 100 extension.

And i think it will going down, and until morning maybe still above, and hit the upper channel green line, and move down by the NZD news which in last few weeks is always weak as i observe, and can add down push for C5 basket.

and maybe tomorrow JPY will decide if go down or up after the news?

on H1 and H4 still CCI stronger, and not yet touch -100 levels. if does, maybe the downward will strong.

but who knows, the market will show the way.

Still have H1 and H4 trade , and also M15 .

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Need some sleep, enough roller coaster for today seeing the price go up and down and still hold on to it.

let see tomorrow what it turns out.
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  • #8,417
  • Jun 2, 2015 1:23am Jun 2, 2015 1:23am
Hey guys my offline chart hasnt moved since 8pm last night. I have tried closing the chart and reopening, restarting mt4 etc nothing seems to be working. The machine its on has bags of ram and a super fast processor with only 2 mt4's running on it so I dont think its a hardware issue. Any ideas on how to get this kick started again?
  • #8,418
  • Jun 2, 2015 3:26am Jun 2, 2015 3:26am
Quoting yorkshirelad
Hey guys my offline chart hasnt moved since 8pm last night. I have tried closing the chart and reopening, restarting mt4 etc nothing seems to be working. The machine its on has bags of ram and a super fast processor with only 2 mt4's running on it so I dont think its a hardware issue. Any ideas on how to get this kick started again?
Try relooad all history chart using the script. you have it right?

and check if you are connected to the broker server.

check also if your indi for the basket creation still running otherwise it wont update the offline chart.

Usually mine freeze bcoz disconnected from server. just relogin again. then reload all offline chart if the chart is jumping / not correct .

Hope helps.
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  • #8,419
  • Jun 2, 2015 5:40am Jun 2, 2015 5:40am
Thanks buddy doesnt matter now SL was triggered damn it. Yesterday +£50 today -£50 oh well i bet this ends up sinking now for 2000 pips, just my luck. Im hesitant to get back in now in case it carries on higher.

Are you still in C5 mate?
  • #8,420
  • Jun 2, 2015 5:53am Jun 2, 2015 5:53am
Quoting yorkshirelad
Thanks buddy doesnt matter now SL was triggered damn it. Yesterday +50 today -50 oh well i bet this ends up sinking now for 2000 pips, just my luck. Im hesitant to get back in now in case it carries on higher. Are you still in C5 mate?
Same, it reverse trend .

I am out with loss . manual closs -100$ .

Lucky you have SL.

Well, me to not entry now. wait and see the price touch down HA again maybe will entry. The H1 CCI already Green, H4 going to Green CCI.

Well, lesson learned. Get what the market give better than sorry.

Hope found new setup.
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