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  • #301
  • May 27, 2015 11:27pm May 27, 2015 11:27pm
Quoting hanover
there's apparently only a couple of new concepts (classes, inheritance, encapsulation etc) for 'old school' programmers to get their heads around.
Pretty much. And like I tried to demonstrate it's not anything new, it's just the same old 1's and 0's packaged in a different way in your code that allows you to organize your code, and access to that code, in a better way. It's the difference between making a file that is a library of functions that do certain interesting things, but which are only intended to be used by certain var types however are still globally accessible to your whole program because they sit openly in the global scope of the program, versus a library of functions that are encapsulated with the data type that is meant to use those funcs and only that data type can access those functions (or a child class / data type that extends from the current class). It all still compiles to the same code, it's just that the compiler enforces restrictions defined by the way you have set up your individual classes and throws a compilation error if you try to do something that you shouldn't be able to do as per how you wrote the class.

It's all bullshit until you give it a go, and then it makes total sense and your code gets much more organized.

Conceptually I visualize it like a room of workers all sitting in a pile doing their thing and where everyone can see and touch everyone elses stuff, whether they are meant to do so or not... compared to where everyone has their own cubicle where their stuff is theirs and they only lend it out to their subordinates and even then some stuff they keep for only themselves.

I... I like OOP. And I remember how confusing it was until I started using it.

edit: fuck, I'm a "high impact" poster again, somehow.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #302
  • May 28, 2015 12:28pm May 28, 2015 12:28pm
Hi Hanover, I'm not sure if you are aware of it, but an indicator you coded awhile back has really taken off in popularity in a thread called "As Simple as Possible, 00 Level Trading."

It is the "Currency Strength - Giraia." I know you are not taking coding requests, but I was wondering if you could recognize this problem off the top of your head based on this screenshot.

It works perfectly on brokers with standard names for pairs, but when there is a suffix, like EUR/USDi, issues arise. I can get the indi to recognize all the pairs, as you can see from this screenshot, the "7" in parentheses for all rows. However, the indi doesn't update....these values showing seem to be defaults, with Euro always at 0.

Can you think of any reason why it would recognize the pairs, but not update? Any ideas much appreciated!
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  • #303
  • Edited 3:55pm May 28, 2015 3:12pm | Edited 3:55pm
Quoting 24HourTrader
Hi Hanover, I'm not sure if you are aware of it, .......
No, sorry, I wan't aware of it. I don't visit FF as often as I used to.

It seems that you have RefreshEveryXMins set to 0, hence the indy should recalculate and re-plot the values on each new tick.

I had a quick look at the code and can't see anything obviously amiss. The attached version -- which appears to be later than the files you uploaded -- runs fine, with the values/colors continuously updating, on my computer, using the parameters shown in the screenshot. Both the br0kers that I use (Pepperstone and AxiTrader) use conventional symbol IDs (e.g. EURUSD instead of EURUSDi), and the indy appears to run correctly on both of them. I don't have other br0ker platforms that I can test it on.

Perhaps you you post the .mq4 file on one of the "I code your indicators for free" threads, and a programmer could update the code so that it compiles on build 600 onward, and then troubleshoot the problem for you.
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[EDIT] I just found an even later version of the indicator, hence I've updated the attachments accordingly. It also seems to run OK on both my br0ker's platforms, with the values updating continuously. I note that it has a CurrencySuffix parameter --- possibly suggesting that at some point I made a fix to remedy the same problem --- perhaps you could enter i there (while leaving CurrencyPairs at EURUSD, GBPUSD etc), and see if that works?

Also, the files that you uploaded don't appear to match your screenshot, which shows a SortDescending option that's not a parameter in your .mq4 source file.
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  • #304
  • Edited 3:57pm May 28, 2015 3:34pm | Edited 3:57pm
Quoting nubcake
edit: fuck, I'm a "high impact" poster again, somehow.
Oh hell, looks like you've lost your anonymity all over again, and will no doubt find yourself scrutinized and harassed by folk who apparently prize their membership status more highly than their trading performance (not mentioning any obvious names, of course ). Ah, the joys of trading forums, LOL.
  • #305
  • May 28, 2015 3:51pm May 28, 2015 3:51pm
Quoting hanover
{quote} No, sorry, I wan't aware of it. I don't visit FF as often as I used to. It seems that you have RefreshEveryXMins set to 0, hence the indy should recalculate and re-plot the values on each new tick. I had a quick look at the code and can't see anything obviously amiss. The attached version -- which I think is the latest -- runs fine, with the values/colors continuously updating, on my computer, using the parameters shown in the screenshot. Both the br0kers that I use (Pepperstone and AxiTrader) use conventional symbol IDs (e.g. EURUSD instead...
Thanks for your response. I'll post it over there and see if anybody can get it to compile. Thanks!
  • #306
  • May 28, 2015 5:49pm May 28, 2015 5:49pm
Quoting hanover
{quote} [EDIT] I just found an even later version of the indicator, hence I've updated the attachments accordingly. It also seems to run OK on both my br0ker's platforms, with the values updating continuously. I note that it has a CurrencySuffix parameter --- possibly suggesting that at some point I made a fix to remedy the same problem --- perhaps you could enter i there (while leaving CurrencyPairs at EURUSD, GBPUSD etc), and see if that works? Also, the files that you uploaded don't appear to match your screenshot, which shows a SortDescending...
It works, AWESOME! I see this one also gives the option of choosing the timeframe, while the older one I posted does not. Very cool. Thanks so much!
  • #307
  • May 28, 2015 7:35pm May 28, 2015 7:35pm
Quoting 24HourTrader
{quote} Thanks for your response. I'll post it over there and see if anybody can get it to compile. Thanks!
I decided to further update the indicator (here).
  • #308
  • May 28, 2015 8:03pm May 28, 2015 8:03pm
Quoting hanover
{quote} I decided to further update the indicator (here).
Wow, thanks! Lot's of people will get use out of this.
  • #309
  • Edited 6:50pm May 29, 2015 6:22pm | Edited 6:50pm
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@mitrapips: I'm a retired programmer, not a pro trader. However, as a general view, I believe that strength/weakness is caused largely by macroeconomic factors, hence s/w analysis -- backed by some sound FA (e.g. here) -- works best on the longer TFs. Pair the strongest currencies against the weakest to determine pair and direction, and then use supply/demand zones on shorter TFs (I'm currently using M15) for timing entries. I've gotten back into trading FX this year and this strategy has been working well so far.

To elaborate a little, the screenshot shows the framework that I've been using recently. NZDCHF has been in a downtrend phase since the red arrowed candle, but the PSA indicator has shown CHF to currently be strong and NZD weak -- backed by rumors that RBNZ will cut interest rates on June 10 -- only since the large red candle with the yellow arrow. Then Athena (an indicator that I developed for my own use) highlights potentially tradeable pullbacks (white arrows), after which I look for S/D zones (indicators here) on the M15 chart at the right near these levels from which to pyramid my entries. Then I hold these trades until Athena plots a trend reversal, the gray SL line on the H4 chart is hit, or there is some other analysis-based evidence that it's time to exit.

Anyway, this is merely a general idea; and it is the concept, rather than the indicators or the actual numbers, that provide an edge -- if indeed there is one. I'm continuing to experiment with this type of approach.
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@jollydragon: sorry, but I've never heard of StickStory. And since MT4 build 600, I'm no longer undertaking coding or troubleshooting requests, unless it's an EA/indicator that I wrote originally, and I believe that I would benefit from the enhancement myself. I'm not a fan of EAs that use conventional indicators, unless these indicators somehow reflect the effect of drivers behind price movement (e.g. bank/institutional agendas, macroecomomics, orderflow, self-fulfilling prophecy, trapped traders, etc). If simple indicator based EAs were able to generated consistent long-term profit, then everybody would use them and we'd all be effortless millionaires.

Also, any programming that I do uses archaic code libraries that are compatible with the build 509 compiler. Hence if the .mq4 file is compiled using build 600 or later, it will generate errors, and you would ultimately need to get it recoded by a programmer who is conversant with the latest MQL4 language.
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  • #310
  • Jun 21, 2015 5:21pm Jun 21, 2015 5:21pm
Attached is a ZIP containing a comma separated (CSV) file of FF calendar news announcements from Jan 1, 2007 thru June 19, 2015, timestamped New York EST (or DST when applicable). The CSV file can be imported to any platform (e.g. Excel) for further analysis.

Columns (from left to right) are: Date, Time, Currency, News description, Impact, Actual, Forecast, Previous, Revised from, Plotted wingdings symbol (ignore), Color value (ignore), Spacing (ignore), FF event ID
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File Type: zip News events 2007-01-01 thru 2015-06-19 timestamped New York time.zip   695 KB | 381 downloads
  • #311
  • Jun 28, 2015 1:25am Jun 28, 2015 1:25am
Dear David,

as you are a very experienced, am i allowed to ask your advise please?

I don't get any answers for my problem and maybe you know a solution, how i could solve that problem.

Could you have please a look a my post...

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=546109

Thank you very much...

all the best

Jo
  • #312
  • Jun 28, 2015 10:29pm Jun 28, 2015 10:29pm
Quoting Akvisto
Dear David, as you are a very experienced, am i allowed to ask your advise please? I don't get any answers for my problem and maybe you know a solution, how i could solve that problem. Could you have please a look a my post... http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=546109 Thank you very much... all the best Jo
Hi Jo,

I am sorry, I am not conversant with Windows API programming.

Just a thought: would a satisfactory solution be to have a 'dummy' e-mail address, and then have a programmer write a small app to transfer any newly received e-mails to your desired device? I'm not sure how that would operate, but it would take any complexity outside of MT4.

David
  • #313
  • Jun 28, 2015 11:05pm Jun 28, 2015 11:05pm
Quoting hanover
{quote} Hi Jo, I am sorry, I am not conversant with Windows API programming. Just a thought: would a satisfactory solution be to have a 'dummy' e-mail address, and then have a programmer write a small app to transfer any newly received e-mails to your desired device? I'm not sure how that would operate, but it would take any complexity outside of MT4. David

Good morning David,

thank you very much for answering...the reason why we are searching for that solution is, that we have developed a real time analyse solution for trading signals.
In the moment we are sending the trading signal out from Mt4 via email to the analyse and the program for analyse take the signal out from a mailbox...

In the moment our association "Trader4Charity" is setting up a team for testing systems &indicators and it will be high traffic with signals and then mailbox gets to full and it takes to much time until signals arrive to analyse. When we could send by UDP, we had no problem with that.

Your idea will not help us, i guess...but thank you very much to think about.

Wish you a great time and also thank you for so much good solutions which you have developed and shared.

Jo
  • #314
  • Jul 7, 2015 3:12am Jul 7, 2015 3:12am
@theprofessor: (reply to your message) sorry, but I'm not undertaking any new programming projects nowadays.
  • #315
  • Jul 7, 2015 4:11am Jul 7, 2015 4:11am
hi david...i am looking for an indicator that plots just four horizontal lines on the ohlc level of the previous candle at the current time frame of the chart....could you help...cheers
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  • #316
  • Jul 7, 2015 9:47am Jul 7, 2015 9:47am
Quoting shinewel
hi david...i am looking for an indicator that plots just four horizontal lines on the ohlc level of the previous candle at the current time frame of the chart....could you help...cheers
Please see the post immediately above yours.

You could try posting your request in one of the "I code your indicators for free" threads, hopefully a programmer will help you.
  • #317
  • Edited 3:32pm Aug 2, 2015 5:34am | Edited 3:32pm
News events from FF calendar for 2015 in the attached files.
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File Type: txt News events 1 Jan 2015 thru 31 July 2015 timestamped New York time.txt   374 KB | 296 downloads
File Type: csv News events 1 Jan 2015 thru 31 July 2015 timestamped New York time.csv   221 KB | 312 downloads
  • #318
  • Aug 21, 2015 12:53am Aug 21, 2015 12:53am
Hi Hanover,

I find the similarities in our trading journey quite amusing, and since I can't send you PM's, I decided to post here. This will be (I think) just a meandering, random post.

I, too, discovered forex in around 2008. I don't code, but my husband coded+backtested numerous EA's for me. Within a few months, those results convinced me to discard indicators, and go for PA based setups (James16, etc). After a few more months, I decided that forex wasn't for me, and forgot about it till June of this year or so.

Since then, I've brushed up on my PA skills, and decided that fundies are super important, and sentiment is hard to backtest. Although I think I've got a bit of a handle, I'll sign up for the "guru"s $1 trail of his news reports and analysis, and see how I like it. FWIW, the Ransquawk guys have a forex offshoot called talking-forex, which is significantly cheaper and is free for 5minute(?) delayed news, in case you ever want to quit paying for the analysis.

An interesting thing, thinking back on folks' trajectories in forex. I think a number of people who try it are quite smart, with money to invest (doctors, dentists, business owners spring to mind), and quickly realize that either the learning curve takes too long, active trading takes too long to manage for it to be profitable for them (they already have a source of income that they'd like to maintain, or other life stuff going on) and/or their money is better invested elsewhere.

I also find it interesting that you went into options trading. This is something I've thought of, but I think the learning curve is too steep for me to invest in at the moment, and it hurts to give up the sunk costs I've incurred learning about forex
  • #319
  • Edited 1:57am Aug 22, 2015 1:28am | Edited 1:57am
Quoting AshR
Hi Hanover, I find the similarities in our trading journey quite amusing, ...........
Ash,

Many thanks for your post. I turned private messages off because I got too many requests from members wanting free programming.

For better or worse, I've shelved trading options for the meantime, and have returned to forex. I might return to options when I get around to opening an account with Interactive Br0kers, which will permit the convenience of trading many different instruments from the same account.

Re forex: I too moved from indicators thru James16, then S/R confluences (Steve of 'No brainer trades'), DIBS (Peter Crowns), some VSA (Tom Williams), supply/demand (Sam Seiden), millipede (pipeasy), orderflow (Darkstar) and now fundamentals ('JD'). Fortunately most of the info has been good, I've somehow managed to avoid a lot of snake oil. My only real waste of time was experimenting with different MMs -- grids, averaging in/out, martingale variants, etc -- soon after I first started out. Now I know better: no analysis = no edge; and the best edge I've found is developing an understanding of the drivers 'behind' the candles. But it's taken me almost 9 years to get to this point.

Forex seems to attract a lot of different intellects and folk from different professions: one of the smartest FF members, and a friend of mine, is a tattooist, but he hasn't posted here since 2011.

My experience is that it would require a considerable amount of capital to trade like the pros, and also make a decent income; none of the '$500 to a million in 6 months' type of threads seem to produce too many millionaires, which I guess is hardly surprising.

Just my 2 cents. All the best,

David
  • #320
  • Edited 6:17pm Aug 24, 2015 4:18am | Edited 6:17pm
Hi David, thanks for replying

I tend to be a bit of an obsessive, workaholic type, so I go through information quickly; recently, I've gone through some really good price action video courses, including one which stresses the importance of news/fundies. I certainly agree with you on the importance of understanding the "why" behind the candle.

In terms of income/expectations etc... Obviously the forums are full of the "$500 to $500 million in a month" types, but I think that there are a few people with cash to invest who are also intelligent, and think "I might as well put a bit in a risky investment, that maybe I can manage myself". For instance, my own thinking process started with, "I'm young, I can find some extra time, why do I have to invest everything in boring, relatively low-risk real estate or etf's?"

I did some thinking about returns and drawdowns yesterday. Of course, thinking about "average" returns/dd's of successful traders isn't all that useful because everyone is unique, but I think a return of 4-5% per month, risking 1% per trade, would be quite amazing; I think you mentioned somewhere that 1-4% is what you estimated from options trading?
I know this is very personal information, but would you be able to discuss the kinds of returns/max drawdowns/profit factors experienced by any successful fundamental-ish traders whom you know? I'd assume that the larger the account size, the more %return needs to go down, because after a level, even 1% risk per trade seems like far too much.

I've only been with JD for about 2 days now; enough time to go through his video course and read a bit of his feed. Personally, I think I'll cancel in a day or two. My own thinking is that I get a decent real-time news feed at $40/month with talking-forex, and this feed includes most of the Ransquawk weekly analysis etc; I also have free access to Deutsche Bank's MNI bullets/feed. More importantly, I like to read lots on the macro situation, and focus mostly on news articles; if I read analysis, I'd rather read multiple conflicting analyses that force me to come to my own conclusions. JD's stuff seems decent, and I'll read his free opinions. His paid stuff/alerts etc might be more suited to day traders, which I probably won't be. Because I live in Oz and don't want to be glued to the screen after work hours, I'd rather trade in a style similar to this http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...90#post7926990 , I think, forsaking "timing" and hoping to hold longer term (and suffering through the swap )
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