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  • #101
  • Aug 10, 2006 11:30am Aug 10, 2006 11:30am
Quoting OrangeRoshan
At the moment to keep things simple:

The cross of the 5/9 signals entry, but the dreaded whipsaw sometimes changes that, even on the 4hr. Simply because, MAs are lagging indicators.

Therefore, on the 4hr, wait for the dot to appear (in my case I change it to red for sell & viceversa), wait for the next bar to formed. Then:

1) Look for a trend change (the 5/9) to confirm this. The angle of the 9SMA will tell you this)
2) Look for the crossing of 5/9 (might lose some good pips, but its safer)
3) Switch around 1hr, 30mins charts to see when the dot is already there. Dont want to see it do any David Cooperfield stuff!
4) Enter trade

Ive notice the dots can teleport itself to other bars, which is cool when you are watching star trek, but not when you are trading 20m lots! It does this because the trend has changed.

Eg:
Red dot appear, so you wait for the next bar to appear and whammo, you make an entry to sell. Then after a couple of hours, you noticed your are -40pips! What Happened? You manually backtest, and couldnt find a similar scenarion, where: Usually when a dot appear, the price starts to move into your direction but this time, and its still going the opposite direction even after 5 bars!!

This is where the 5/9 helps. Do not enter any position until the 5/9 confirms it!! But when it does, make pips is all you will be doing.

A suggestion of exit would be:

1) 1 bar after the opposite dot appear (look at the slope/angle of the 5/9 to confirm trend change); or
2) the 5/9 crosses

I hope that will help a bit.

Happy Trading!

I'll appreciate it.
  • #102
  • Aug 10, 2006 12:40pm Aug 10, 2006 12:40pm
Quoting maz07
I'll appreciate it.
The template is available on post #1. Just add the 5EMA (BLUE) & 9SMA (ORANGE, of course), price CLOSE.

Hope this will help you.
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  • #103
  • Aug 10, 2006 12:51pm Aug 10, 2006 12:51pm
This images are clearer.

Happy Learning.
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File Type: pdf tlatomi with 5&9.pdf   140 KB | 2,250 downloads
File Type: pdf tlatomi with Tiga Abdul (illustrated).pdf   127 KB | 2,218 downloads
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  • #104
  • Aug 10, 2006 2:52pm Aug 10, 2006 2:52pm
I'm looking to replace the Shi_Silver trend by another indicator.

I think that the Shi_Channel Indicator could be a good option.

It's also repaint itself but less frequently than the dot version.

I don't believe in backtesting so i will test that possibility starting now on GBP/USD and GBP/JPY.

What do you think ? another idea ?

By the way, I love the addition of the two MA.

1 - Price touch the channel
2 - Ergodic cross
3 - NonLagMa yellow
4 - Ma cross
5 - Ma cross (exit)

http://www.tlatomi.com/blog/images/graph.gif
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  • #105
  • Aug 10, 2006 4:10pm Aug 10, 2006 4:10pm
SHI channel indicator was originally written expressly for the 15 minute time frame. So was the juice indicator. Don't know if they would be at all suitable for the H4 timeframe but maybe worth testing.
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  • #106
  • Aug 10, 2006 4:17pm Aug 10, 2006 4:17pm
Quoting traderone
SHI channel indicator was originally written expressly for the 15 minute time frame. So was the juice indicator. Don't know if they would be at all suitable for the H4 timeframe but maybe worth testing.
I didn't know that - thanks for the info !
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  • #107
  • Aug 10, 2006 4:25pm Aug 10, 2006 4:25pm
For more legibility, i replace the two ma (9SMA and 5EMA) by this indicator

MA_Crossover_Signal
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  • #108
  • Aug 10, 2006 10:44pm Aug 10, 2006 10:44pm
Now this indicator is great! I really do thank you for posting it here. I think it is more accurate with 5 and 9 and I still have 12 just when I feel the need the the second MA indicator.


Quoting judex001
For more legibility, i replace the two ma (9SMA and 5EMA) by this indicator

MA_Crossover_Signal
  • #109
  • Aug 10, 2006 10:47pm Aug 10, 2006 10:47pm
I DO NOT EVEN USE IT anymore as it makes the Chart so cluttered and harder to read. I would use it if it opened in a second window though ... and I do not do code so unless someone knows how, I will just not use it for now.

Quoting judex001
I didn't know that - thanks for the info !
  • #110
  • Aug 10, 2006 11:44pm Aug 10, 2006 11:44pm
I may have missed it, but has anyone programmed an audio alert for this great set of indicators? It would sure make a 4 hr chart easier to manage....
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  • #111
  • Aug 11, 2006 12:50am Aug 11, 2006 12:50am
Quoting judex001
I'm looking to replace the Shi_Silver trend by another indicator.
Yes, when we can find a more stable indicator, that will be great. Anyway, great system. It has added at least 50% more profits to my current system.

Thanks
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  • #112
  • Aug 11, 2006 12:51am Aug 11, 2006 12:51am
Quoting judex001
For more legibility, i replace the two ma (9SMA and 5EMA) by this indicator

MA_Crossover_Signal
Can we have alert as well please?

Thanks
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  • #113
  • Aug 11, 2006 12:57am Aug 11, 2006 12:57am
Quoting ut2DaMax
I DO NOT EVEN USE IT anymore as it makes the Chart so cluttered and harder to read. I would use it if it opened in a second window though ... and I do not do code so unless someone knows how, I will just not use it for now.
Yes, I split my chart into 4 windows. The 1hr, 4hrs (without the nonlag MA (5/9)), 4hrs (without 5/9, with nonlag MA), & Daily to show me the range.

Refreshing the periodicity on all windows when a new bar emerges. This way, I can be updated when the dots do their teleporting capability.

Happy Trading!
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  • #114
  • Aug 11, 2006 2:38am Aug 11, 2006 2:38am
Quoting OrangeRoshan
Yes, when we can find a more stable indicator, that will be great. Anyway, great system. It has added at least 50% more profits to my current system.

Thanks
OrangeRoshan,

I really enjoy your posts on the FF. I have been looking foward to the new version of your Tiga Abdul.

Do you make at least 300 pips a day now? I am in awe...


Quoting OrangeRoshan
Yes, I split my chart into 4 windows. The 1hr, 4hrs (without the nonlag MA (5/9)), 4hrs (without 5/9, with nonlag MA), & Daily to show me the range.

Refreshing the periodicity on all windows when a new bar emerges. This way, I can be updated when the dots do their teleporting capability.

Happy Trading!

You don't use 30-minute chart anymore?


Happy pipping!

Spa
  • #115
  • Aug 11, 2006 3:06am Aug 11, 2006 3:06am
Hi Folks !

I have a question regarding the appearance of the dots.
Is it possible to change the indicator in a way the dots repaint
themselves every time a new bar has been created ?

Once again thank you for this awesome threat...

Greetings from Essen in germany

Bernhard
  • #116
  • Aug 11, 2006 3:10am Aug 11, 2006 3:10am
Quoting spartan
OrangeRoshan,

I really enjoy your posts on the FF. I have been looking foward to the new version of your Tiga Abdul.

Do you make at least 300 pips a day now? I am in awe...





You don't use 30-minute chart anymore?


Happy pipping!

Spa
Im averaging minimum 500+ pips now a day per broker with just 6 monkeys (pairs). I used to trade 12, but doing it on 4 brokers is a nightmare.

Yes, I still do use 30mins chart mainly for the 100/30 system. My trading is now fully automated on 2 platforms. We are still trying to solve some API issues with the other 2 brokers for the EA to run properly.

The tlatomi system have shed some lights into the Tiga Abdul system. The next gerenation of Tiga Abdul is still on backtesting. My Japanese team are working on it.

Anyway, here are some of the backtesting results on Tiga Abdul ver. 2.3s on GBPUSD. The results are lower than the actual forwardtesting +-15%.

Hope this will help a bit.

Thanks.
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File Type: pdf Tiga Abdul ver 2.3s.pdf   690 KB | 2,405 downloads
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  • #117
  • Aug 11, 2006 3:50am Aug 11, 2006 3:50am
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/497...a081106mo3.jpg

Great result.. thanks....... is there any way to improve it a little bit?
  • #118
  • Aug 11, 2006 4:17am Aug 11, 2006 4:17am
Quoting OrangeRoshan
Im averaging minimum 500+ pips now a day per broker with just 6 monkeys (pairs). I used to trade 12, but doing it on 4 brokers is a nightmare.

Yes, I still do use 30mins chart mainly for the 100/30 system. My trading is now fully automated on 2 platforms. We are still trying to solve some API issues with the other 2 brokers for the EA to run properly.

The tlatomi system have shed some lights into the Tiga Abdul system. The next gerenation of Tiga Abdul is still on backtesting. My Japanese team are working on it.

Anyway, here are some of the backtesting results on Tiga Abdul ver. 2.3s on GBPUSD. The results are lower than the actual forwardtesting +-15%.

Hope this will help a bit.

Thanks.
Thank you so much OrangeRoshan.

I'm excited to hear that your Tiga Abdul can now make more than 500 pips a day! You are more like an extra large pipster now! I'm truly impressed with you. I can hear the sound of pipping when you walk!

By the way, you have a team of Japanese working for you? You said in your original Tiga Abdul document that you are a newbie but you are actually a professional trader, aren't you?

Please let us know when your next version of Tiga Abdul is ready. I want to be the first one to read it, or try the EA if you will.

Thanks and have a even greater pipping day!

Spa
  • #119
  • Aug 11, 2006 4:25am Aug 11, 2006 4:25am
When I download the Indicators.zip file and try to apply to my charts, I get a syntax error. Can someone help please?
  • #120
  • Aug 11, 2006 4:37am Aug 11, 2006 4:37am
The Japs are not working for me, they are my live trading team specialising in Asian Market trading times. As being a professional trader, like i mentioned before, im new to the Live trading over the internet. My 14yrs previous trading method was bank to bank & hard cash using fundamental analysis. Therefore, im still a newbie to this.

But remember spartan, trading is all about psychology. In the order of importance:

1. Discipline
2. Rules
3. Motivation

My trading results are nothing compared to the other trading team members. What is important is not the number of pips that you can make, but the type of pips you made. My average 500+ pips are not entirely quality pips, but it does make my investors very happy.

Anyway, keep learning and always believe in yourself that you can do it too.

Thank you & happy pipping!
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