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  • #41
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:37pm Aug 8, 2006 3:37pm
After seeing great works in progress at the FF (VEGAS, SIDUS-BAGOVINO, KNIFE) this is another great - no - FANTASTIC TOOL!

Thanks Judex!!!!!

I think you will benefit from sharing. Just look over at the SIDUS method thread.....the refining process that is going over there, contributions from OrangeRoshan, Bagovino and others are absolutely genius.

Watch out, this thread has the potential to grow pretty fast. Hold your breath and continue. I have to build "faith" in this system, yet. I see on my platform (European Time GMT+2) the following setup on GBP/USD, but I have not the courage to take as it seems to be on the HIGH END of things:

- All the Tlatomi conditions seem to be met (red dot, CCI, and yellow nonlag) - so I should go LONG on GBP/USD right now.

BUT! Here my concerns:

1. Price level (Price action) shows high level
2. According to Vegas 4 Hr we are at an outer fib level (he mentions that once it reaches outer fib levels AND shows signs of exhaustion it is time to look for a SHORT)

I'm confused. Would YOU go LONG on GBP/USD right now?

Thanks for any contribution.

Peter.
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  • #42
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:38pm Aug 8, 2006 3:38pm
Quoting judex001
Hi,

Thanks for the comment but be carreful with the backtesting because the shisilvertrend indicator repaints itself so the results in backtest are not always the real ones.

If you want to see the shi_silvertrend without repainting itself - modify the code : for (SH=0;SH>NB;SH++) by for (SH=NB;SH>=0;SH--)

For now, i made all my tests in real time and use the signal dot only when the others 2 indicators are in the same way.

I m actually looking for an another indicator to replace the Shi_silverTrend.
Perhaps a repost of the original indicators replacing the silvertrend with the non repainting version in the first posting may help

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  • #43
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:40pm Aug 8, 2006 3:40pm
Quoting OrangeRoshan
Hi All,

Very good method, & it helps the current system that im actually using. This method enhances my TIGA ABDUL system. I uses 9SMA as an entry signal when it crosses 5EMA. This is also exactly where the yellow line crosses!!

The rest of the indicators help to sharpen my system especially to reduced fake-outs! Thanks so very much as it help my current system sharper & more profitable than it already is.

Happy Trading!
OrangeRoshan: Thanks for your valuable contributions over at the SIDUS thread. Pure genius at work . I have read the TIGA ABDUL document, but your last comment here caught my attention. Do you use the 9SMA as your new entry point? Did you drop the original SIDUS-BAGOVINO MA? Thanks for clarifying this.

Peter.
  • #44
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:48pm Aug 8, 2006 3:48pm
Quoting judex001
http://www.tlatomi.com/blog/images/properties.gif

http://www.tlatomi.com/blog/properties.gif

OK .... that took care of the missing colors, thank you for your help....This looks like it is going to be an excelant indicator, good work
Same Whore .... Different Dress
  • #45
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:59pm Aug 8, 2006 3:59pm
petercross :

If you see post 38, i think it's exactly the trade you are wondering to take except that i take it earlier than you - In this case, i take it because the us new was'nt dangerous and i wanted to profit from the first movement (interest rate unchanged) but in the case of big news like NFP etc.... i stay out of the market.

To answer your question - rignt now, i will stay out of the market :

-price has never be so high since 04/2005
-a possible pin bar in formation
-possible false signal

When using this method - always look at the price for confirmation.
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  • #46
  • Aug 8, 2006 4:02pm Aug 8, 2006 4:02pm
Quoting judex001
Hi,

Thanks for the comment but be carreful with the backtesting because the shisilvertrend indicator repaints itself so the results in backtest are not always the real ones.

If you want to see the shi_silvertrend without repainting itself - modify the code : for (SH=0;SH>NB;SH++) by for (SH=NB;SH>=0;SH--)

For now, i made all my tests in real time and use the signal dot only when the others 2 indicators are in the same way.

I m actually looking for an another indicator to replace the Shi_silverTrend.
When i applied the changes to the silvertrend indicator and then reapplied that to mt4 it froze it ... everytime i tried it .. don't know what's wrong

so i'll stick to the original for now and only take signals as they happen ..
  • #47
  • Aug 8, 2006 4:05pm Aug 8, 2006 4:05pm
Quoting judex001
petercross :

If you see post 38, i think it's exactly the trade you are wondering to take except that i take it earlier than you - In this case, i take it because the us new was'nt dangerous and i wanted to profit from the first movement (interest rate unchanged) but in the case of big news like NFP etc.... i stay out of the market.

To answer your question - rignt now, i will stay out of the market :

-price has never be so high since 04/2005
-a possible pin bar in formation
-possible false signal

When using this method - always look at the price for confirmation.
SO, you are NOT trading at all???? Since your method is being applied to GBP/USD and GBP/JPY only - this would leave you with no other options??? Please clarify....

Wish you Pips.

Peter.
  • #48
  • Aug 8, 2006 4:08pm Aug 8, 2006 4:08pm
Quoting matrung
When i applied the changes to the silvertrend indicator and then reapplied that to mt4 it froze it ... everytime i tried it .. don't know what's wrong

so i'll stick to the original for now and only take signals as they happen ..
Personaly, i'm still using the repaint version of the indicator because i don't care if it repaint or no while the others two indicators give me the same signal. In general, it repaint itself on the next bar when the movement is not yet confirmed.

I upload the norepaint indicator if you want to try with this version.
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File Type: mq4 SHI_SilverTrendSignorepaint.mq4   4 KB | 2,252 downloads
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  • #49
  • Aug 8, 2006 4:13pm Aug 8, 2006 4:13pm
Quoting petercross
SO, you are NOT trading at all???? Since your method is being applied to GBP/USD and GBP/JPY only - this would leave you with no other options??? Please clarify....

Wish you Pips.

Peter.
no others options ?? I don't understand what you mean. What options ?

I don't take this trade if this is your question.

PS : i'm sorry - i'm sure you already guess that english is not my first language.
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  • #50
  • Aug 8, 2006 4:45pm Aug 8, 2006 4:45pm
Quoting judex001
Personaly, i'm still using the repaint version of the indicator because i don't care if it repaint or no while the others two indicators give me the same signal. In general, it repaint itself on the next bar when the movement is not yet confirmed.

I upload the norepaint indicator if you want to try with this version.
If the dots are appearing exactly where they were originally placed, this new version isn't very useful. They seem to be nowhere near a buy or sell signal.

I think perhaps just the nolag with the FX sniper might sufficient for buy/sell signals.

Jason
  • #51
  • Aug 8, 2006 4:45pm Aug 8, 2006 4:45pm
Quoting petercross
OrangeRoshan: Thanks for your valuable contributions over at the SIDUS thread. Pure genius at work . I have read the TIGA ABDUL document, but your last comment here caught my attention. Do you use the 9SMA as your new entry point? Did you drop the original SIDUS-BAGOVINO MA? Thanks for clarifying this.

Peter.
Yes, I currently only use 5EMA & 9SMA and it looks like Tlatomi method is using it too. I also now trade on the 4hr, Tlatomi also.

Vegas use 8SMA as his filter and it is very powerful to catch tops & bottoms. Now with Tlatomi, his confirming indicators makes TIGA ABDUL easy to use.

Looking forward to see the EA.

Happy Trading.
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #52
  • Aug 8, 2006 5:14pm Aug 8, 2006 5:14pm
Quoting judex001
no others options ?? I don't understand what you mean. What options ?

I don't take this trade if this is your question.

PS : i'm sorry - i'm sure you already guess that english is not my first language.
Don't worry my friend: English is not my first language! It is actually fantastic how this common topic (Forex) AND the Internet draws people together of different backgrounds, etnias, religions and languages! If only for that it was worth being here on the FF!

Ok. My question was: Have you been trading the GBP/USD UP to this point that seems to be critical/complicated? If I understand you correctly, you are not taking this LAST trade, because of obvious reasons, but you came all the way up to this point with GBP? Right?

With "no other options" I meant: If your system doesn't give you signals on GBP/USD or GBP/JPY than you just sit and wait? You wouldn't trade other currencies with this system?

Wish you the best.

Peter.
PS: By the way, I guessed that by the name of your system that you are hispanic background. But, again: WHO cares??? In Forex-Land we are all the same.
  • #53
  • Aug 8, 2006 5:20pm Aug 8, 2006 5:20pm
Quoting OrangeRoshan
Yes, I currently only use 5EMA & 9SMA and it looks like Tlatomi method is using it too. I also now trade on the 4hr, Tlatomi also.

Vegas use 8SMA as his filter and it is very powerful to catch tops & bottoms. Now with Tlatomi, his confirming indicators makes TIGA ABDUL easy to use.

Looking forward to see the EA.

Happy Trading.
1. How does Tlatomi use 9SMA? Did I miss something????
2. Is somebody working on an EA for YOUR refined system? Man, that would be awesome, but also very complicated to do, as you have many "rules" added to the original SIDUS system.

Could you please mention your new TIGA ABDUL settings? I mention this in this thread since it seems that you are mixing two powerfull ways of trading here (TIGA ABDUL+TLATOMI - Man, I love the combination of two systems that have mysterious names from ORIENT+LATINAMERICA - great synergie here! )

Always appreciative.

Peter.
  • #54
  • Aug 8, 2006 5:31pm Aug 8, 2006 5:31pm
Quoting petercross
Ok. My question was: Have you been trading the GBP/USD UP to this point that seems to be critical/complicated? If I understand you correctly, you are not taking this LAST trade, because of obvious reasons, but you came all the way up to this point with GBP? Right?
That's right !

Quoting petercross
With "no other options" I meant: If your system doesn't give you signals on GBP/USD or GBP/JPY than you just sit and wait? You wouldn't trade other currencies with this system?
I didn't try this system on others currency yet. By try, i mean in real time because backtesting with this method is not very reliable.

Quoting petercross
PS: By the way, I guessed that by the name of your system that you are hispanic background. But, again: WHO cares??? In Forex-Land we are all the same.
I'm half mexican
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  • #55
  • Aug 8, 2006 7:51pm Aug 8, 2006 7:51pm
Hi,
This indicator seems very promising so far, and i'm sure that it will develop by the time, and will have more filters that eliminatea false calls.
thank you Judas, and keep up the good work
Trading is a long and a short story.
  • #56
  • Aug 8, 2006 10:50pm Aug 8, 2006 10:50pm
Hi judexx,

First I want to thank you for sharing with us. Now I have a question, I'm afraid it's a silly question, but please bear with me. My question is on the picture attached. Thanks.
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  • #57
  • Aug 8, 2006 11:38pm Aug 8, 2006 11:38pm
Quoting petercross
1. How does Tlatomi use 9SMA? Did I miss something????
2. Is somebody working on an EA for YOUR refined system? Man, that would be awesome, but also very complicated to do, as you have many "rules" added to the original SIDUS system.

Could you please mention your new TIGA ABDUL settings? I mention this in this thread since it seems that you are mixing two powerfull ways of trading here (TIGA ABDUL+TLATOMI - Man, I love the combination of two systems that have mysterious names from ORIENT+LATINAMERICA - great synergie here! )

Always appreciative.

Peter.
Just installed these indicators on the Tlatomi:

5EMA
9SMA

The crosses of this two indicates a signal. However, it must be confirmed by the 3 Tlatomi indicators. I donot used the RSI21. The usual trend & resistence lines can also be used to predict price movements. Vegas Fibs & tunnels as usual also play a big part in helping with entry & exit & PA.

However im now studying the behaviour of the NonLag MA With the 2 Tiga Abdul MA. Most of the times, distances & positions of the MA can be used as a verification in terms of entry, exit & momentum.

Thanks.

Happy Trading
Change Your Thinking. Change Your Life - JD
  • #58
  • Aug 9, 2006 1:18am Aug 9, 2006 1:18am
Hi,

This system is as good as any of the indicator based system but I do have a issue with the silver trend. IMO it probably is one of the worst indicators as I cant see any real value for any indicator which re-corrects itself. Hence the indicator is not reliable. But that being said, there is more chance of a false signal on a lower time frame than a higher time frame.
If you do find something else to replace the Silver trend,, I think it would make the system even better.

Cheers
  • #59
  • Aug 9, 2006 4:24am Aug 9, 2006 4:24am
here. I just installed them and use 5EMA and 9SMA in conjunction. THANK YOU ALL!!!

Quoting judex001
Hi,

After several weeks of succesfull trading with this method, i decide to post it because I'm sure that some of you can find it helpful and others can improve it.

You can find the method in the pdf attached.

Feel free to test it and all your remarks, opinions are welcome.

Thanks

8/08/2006 - a new version of the pdf thanks to the comments
  • #60
  • Aug 9, 2006 4:47am Aug 9, 2006 4:47am
I reversed the red and blue ... seems more correct for me. shi_silver_trend_sig, seems to be right most of the time. Thanks all!!!
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