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Quoting Sis.yphus
Great thread Mark. This is the same stuff I was covering in my thread "DNA, Dimensions & Trading" back in February (now deleted). Keep it up, you are moving forward in the right direction. sis. {quote} There is no such thing as the future. Really think about what time is and why (time in the common use of the word)was it created... Is it truly linear? No trader ever exits in the future just like no trader ever enters in the past(unless they have a time machine). You enter in the now and exit in the now. sis.
Yeah, at some point the future becomes a now, hopefully
The only truth is that indeed there is no future; not as most traders imagine it and believe in; when a trader enters in a trade is now, for example a trader enter long now:
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minutes, hours, days later, the traders checks back on his long trade and is still now; has something change at this now moment to make you exit the trade?
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psgk948ceg.jpg

Maybe the next "now" moment will be different and conditions will change but maybe the conditions will remain the same; why should a trader set a fixed take profit rule rather than benefit for as long as possible; let your profits run; it is enough that we are trading the forex market, there is no reason we need to make a parallel market of our own.
If a trader would have only a monthly or yearly chart and not all this time frames would only make a trade a month or several months or years?
Let us imagine for a moment, the now moment , that there are no indicators and a trader have to create one but he does not have imagination; he is very limited and only sees the basic and simple things and comes up with this to trade; would it be possible?
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pslhn87eid.jpg
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Quoting mark72
If a trader would have only a monthly or yearly chart and not all this time frames would only make a trade a month or several months or years? Let us imagine for a moment, the now moment , that there are no indicators and a trader have to create one but he does not have imagination; he is very limited and only sees the basic and simple things and comes up with this to trade; would it be possible? {image}
I dont know if i completly get what you mean. Without Candles,timeframes and other cr.p on a chart there is only Price and Pice is the "now moment".

So when a trader starts his Trading platform he can draw a line at the first Price he see. The only thing he can do is go Long above the line and Short below the line....and Price will move away from this line with time passing by. But maybe im missing something....just keep it flowing mark. Maybe it gets clearer with your following posts. thx
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EDIT: Time is also an Indicator in my eyes.
Time in my opinion has its advantage in the trading of course even if the market is actually just price which is a result of all others and before finding all this i discover another equation only time dependant that allow me to predict the turn point of major and minor trends and even made by myself a little tool (not indicator) to help with the calculations and show it directly on charts; i still believe that trying to predict the market at 100% all the time and for every turn or price move is to be a mistake but all a trader need in trading is an advantage not to know every move; i traded that for a while until my mind just clicked; how about looking at things the simpler way of course there is something more to the picture but you can start at this
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psfqczhvnk.jpg

In regarding to trading we have to create a limit, to take a reference and to quantify the market in some way; we can quantify the market in my knowledge by at least 2 ways and there is a simple way to create an indicator or tool based on this also.
Quoting mark72
Time in my opinion has its advantage in the trading of course even if the market is actually just price which is a result of all others and before finding all this i discover another equation only time dependant that allow me to predict the turn point of major and minor trends and even made by myself a little tool (not indicator) to help with the calculations and show it directly on charts; i still believe that trying to predict the market at 100% all the time and for every turn or price move is to be a mistake but all a trader need in trading is...
LoL thats looklike the star of C.P. Please tell us more information before the seniors talk with u about "shhh silence" .

But in what way u quantify the market? I have "investing" hours watching the chart recent PA (not history) and reading about everything i can in that moment... (Ticks, Volume buyers,sellers in that time, influx money, etc...) but i still didnt get it "sadface".
I post the image of trades a few days ago that i deleted by mistake from my account in photobucket and traders asked me for it
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pswidy623p.jpg

I will post more information to go along with the start idea but now i have many things and problems on my mind even if i have been told about such information posted in public forums; i wish every trader a nice sunday.
Quoting mark72
Time in my opinion has its advantage in the trading of course even if the market is actually just price which is a result of all others and before finding all this i discover another equation only time dependant that allow me to predict the turn point of major and minor trends and even made by myself a little tool (not indicator) to help with the calculations and show it directly on charts; i still believe that trying to predict the market at 100% all the time and for every turn or price move is to be a mistake but all a trader need in trading is...
we don't predict, we only ride
I honestly dont know what the point of threads like these are.

You come in, talk in riddles and be all mysterious about some mysterious way of playing the markets, you drop "golden nuggets" of info here and there always alluding to any trade plan or strategy, you never plain out simply teach anything, etc You just sound like EURUSDD mark II.

Of course then you'll get a few other people joining in here and there "oh bravo man, i understand fully", "this is the secret guys, if you get it keep it to yourself", "people who are blind to see it are dumb", "blah blah blah", not one person actually speaking with any real sense or simplicity as to what exactly the heck you are talking about?!

NO ONE WILL GIVE ANSWERS here, just riddles and little kiddy clues here and there, trying to make it out as some sort of game.

What do you get out of this? this one big tease? do you like it? do you like dangling your so called knowledge/wisdom infront of some newbies and feel like a big man? You post cropped pictures of trading results, never revealing what those trades actually were and why you took them.

Just get lost already, people like you are the cancer of this place.
Quoting TerryTibbs
I honestly dont know what the point of threads like these are... Of course then you'll get a few other people joining in here and there "oh bravo man, i understand fully", "this is the secret guys, if you get it keep it to yourself", "people who are blind to see it are dumb", "blah blah blah",... What do you get out of this? this one big tease? do you like it? do you like dangling your so called knowledge/wisdom infront of some newbies and feel like a big man?
This is the human being's nature that feels much better when he/she shows off with some property, and there is nothing wrong with that. However, some people get extremely satisfied by doing this so that they just do it to satisfy their show-off needs... and I hope this thread is not just another show-off!
Trading is the hardest way to make easy money...
Quoting mark72
Time in my opinion has its advantage in the trading of course even if the market is actually just price which is a result of all others and before finding all this i discover another equation only time dependant that allow me to predict the turn point of major and minor trends and even made by myself a little tool (not indicator) to help with the calculations and show it directly on charts; i still believe that trying to predict the market at 100% all the time and for every turn or price move is to be a mistake but all a trader need in trading is...

Hmm...still dont really get it. And i also as Contrax mentioned had some sleepless nights about the Star C.P posted long time ago...
maybe i should sell it as Art somewhere with this phenomenal drawing skills i have..
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What i can say about my trading is that i have seen crucial point is trading on tick charts and i trade usually on 1 minute or 5 minute charts but trading can be done on any longer time frame, like i said just depends on trader patience and account size; i traded years ago with the help of an equation and a tool created by myself that quantifies time only and traded turning points until found this method which is a lot more profitable; i am not crucial point and i post here for free as i see other information than i read in crucial point thread.
I have looked at crucial point thread and found no images like mine and information the same about dimensions; the traders that will find my information useful for trading doesn't matter if they will understand from my thread or crucial point as long it will help them; i do not think there is a competition who find it first because the threads are not the same in the matter of information even my thread have similar point to crucial point; i am glad that maybe there is at least another trader that have the same thinking process and logic and that our threads combine will be an answer.
I also do not manage other people money or do not sell anything and there are traders that sent me messages and can say that i never asked for money even when they offered so i do not understand your attack on me; the information here it is enough for some to get started on the right path; people asked me for private groups and i said i can not do it so please do not assume you know me as i do not know any of you.
I believe that what every member posted is still here so i ask the members that claim i have copied someone else thread or post, word for word or otherwise to read my thread and the others thread or posts; maybe there are similarities for piece of information but there is also very important information in my thread that nobody write before and you will not find anywhere; i have tools in my trading that i made myself to help in trading and it is impossible for someone else to have the tools; i know my information is not repackaged as no one can repackage 10 eggs and they will become 20 eggs somewhere else; i do not want to argue with anybody because it is not my character and i will continue to post here or i will stop if no trader want the information i have shared and will share further.
Please continue it to see your profitable way of trade.
I like mike72's explaintion, please keep it going. Sys and Cp do not bother us to learning from him.
Quoting diceman555
{quote} Do you believe that to be a total truth ?
I only believe that i dont know a sh1t in forex trading and i invest hours reading and reading trying to figured out how people can quantify the market with (influx money, momentum, ticks volume buy & sell)
Quoting mark72
{quote} My images were copied from the internet but the 2d representation of dna within dna i made it myself and i think anyone can see it is very bad made because i could not find one on the internet to represent my thoughts so it could not have been copied from you; if you want me to say i have copied your ideas which are not even in the recycle bin and crucial point posts i will say it and each will see on to his thread and please do not associate me with anyone else because definetly our ideas are not the same when you say it is random; let...
Hi mark72,

I can see there are indeed some slight differences, so pls continue your thread as I would like to continue learning, "only time will tell".

Double helix slight difference as in he drawn 2 lines in helix instead of 1
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Sorry to sidetrack, as this is your first pic, I would like to ask u some questions,
Q1) There are no "CLOSE" on both of the candlestick, is it deliberately left out? If yes, why??? Pls explain, thx.
Q2) How do we make use of 3 variables only "OPEN HIGH LOW" to trade profitably???

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we don't predict, we only ride
And to agree some more with crucial point i also believe that the price reaching any level or line it has the same chance of breaking it or returning from it and that trend lines drawing are too rigid and very inacurate; also i believe that as rigid as i see the trend lines there are traders that make a lot of profits from this trend lines and with other techniques that i find to be not suited for me; for a time paradox the price does not depend on time at some level but as i said even time alone can be quantified with the right equation; of course this has been said from a long time ago but the equation i have reached i haven;t seen anywhere and i am sure that some one else find it or will find it and it is not as important as quantifying price.
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