You do not know how to trade

TRADING APPLICATION
And now after all the boring information about fractals and a few dimensions and mathematics, we should go to and focus more on the trading part and interpretation of what i have written until now because everyone is interested in trading profitable but the information was a must to understand everything about trading.
The question that i had in my time and many traders had or have is how do we apply fractals and dimensions and how do we interpret it in matter of trading; also in trading, even if in reality there are just 2 "tangible" dimensions of price and time we do have more dimensions in terms of profitability; simplifying it very much for everyone to get an understanding on this, we have 2 extreme profitable dimensions, one bullish and one bearish, which means we only have 2 profitable results from the market or simply said price.
Remember that i was talking earlier about dna and how it is made of smaller and smaller version of itself, of double helixes; just like the forex market and time frames, we can visualize the data or information no matter how large or small as just like the dna it has no beginning and it has no end:
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pszk0kukxs.jpg
Observe how everything converges at one point, a balance point and just like the market, everything comes back to where it started; as an analogy and to better understand how to be applied in trading we should look at some usual interpretions common to everybody, as the infinity sign:
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psdmivwyhx.jpg
or maybe you have heard of the popular Yin&Yang sign that represents balance between day and night, good and evil:
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psjgimelrd.jpg
and simplified:
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psbx6uguhb.jpg

At this point it should be more clear to everybody where this information is leading to and how it can help traders make extremely profitable trading just by simplifing the market and trading the 2 profitable dimensions but i will continue with the explanations to further describe the trading process integration.

YIN YANG I like the term

It is very complicated to explain in a few words the dimensional part of the trading but i am going to try as until now to the best of my writing skills so it will become very clear for anyone; parts of the information is available on the internet for free, about fractals and dimensions, but only from the mathematics point of view; what i will be describing further and the relation to the trading i haven't seen anywhere on the public websites or forums.

You are on the right path till now; let's see where you will end up...good stuff, my congratulations

I have tried to write everything simple and i do not know if i succeed; after talking about the point, the line and the dimensions, just to put your imagination to work and maybe help understand everything better, everything transforms into something more complex than the previous but everything is started at the smallest, basic thing just as the forex market is very complex but still follows the most basic:
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pslt9samzo.gif
More complex structures are made from previous basic by multiplying.

Like saying before, the forex market will return to revisit previous levels; it comes back to where it first started after a period of time as it is balanced; this is possible because of another complex attractor that follows the cycle attractor and that would be the torus attractor; torus shape or form makes possible for everything to transform and return to initial state.
This is a torus
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pscd7adxvs.gif
and a simplified construction top view
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...ps149tpiy5.gif

as a little detour for the brain, this is a yin & yang :
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pst7vdrtwp.png

This torus is where you should start and get an idea or a glimpse of relation to trading if you have not understand all the information until now; the torus is made of a complex cycles that move only forward; the base of the torus is the ability to repeat the cycles and return to initial state; like a person that in the morning likes to eat very consistent and in the evening to drink only tea.

In trading the most important and value tool or indicator is the trader, yourself; if a person is travelling by car or by train, how does he know it is moving or standing still; except from all the anatomical parts that will give that person the impression of moving or standing still, the eyes will look for a reference point like a tree or a house.

I would like to give a small example out of context as traders would wonder how the drop on eurusd is possible and is most likely forced; a large time frame chart starting at 1995 and until today:
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psrskrj1we.jpg

With an open mind you are a eye opener.
Keep up the good work!

Dude,, i am not a hater,,but put down the pipe,,,seriously,,fundamentals and technicals with a good portion of patience and small size trades to begin with will show you the way... Great if it works for you,,,but for a beginning trader things are confusing enough.
I'm just sayin. Happy Trails

''Know thy self,know the enemy.A thousand battles,a thousand victories.'' Sun Tzu

''Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
''Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.'' Sun Tzu..

Traders should spend more time with this kind of threads.Not spend time with fancy indicators(i am not against them just against overuse) or hoping to find the holygrail.I gurantee you that there is no holygrail.Even the idea of holygrail is against markets.If there is a holygrail there is no market.Think about it.

On the other hand when you are searchin for holy grail you learn a lot of things about market.I did it I recomend for newbies that try to reach 1:5 R:R with %80 winrate.I know it is impossible.But you will learn a lot during this journey.And back to 1:2 R:R %50 winrate.What i am trying to say is practice hard.Practice on live acount not on demo even it is micro it is oke.You need to know what losing is.Anyway I wish you all success.

Reserved.Do you have any results to show us under this rules?

I think he is currently developing the theory. But if he has any real world trading results to show us, I'm eager to see the performance.

I think i said it before but even so i can not say it too many times: trading involves losses so make sure your account can handle the losses, keep them to a minimum amount; do not risk way too much on a single trade.
Everything that i have written in this thread until now is what lead me to a profitable trading system; i have made the best possible not to forget anything and there is more information to come closely related to trading; in order to understand the most simple things sometimes you need to "overcomplicate" it in a necesary way; trading is simple when you have all the facts; my advice is after i finish here to read my posts several times and to try it out even on a demo account before saying it is not possible.

As i have talked about dna and the relation to the forex market and the torus and cycles, let me paint a picture for a more clear visualization and reminder; expand on this image and see where should a trade be taken for big profits and less risk:
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pszk0kukxs.jpg

Even if my trading is good or bad it will not help or teach you in your trading; probably would make you more interested in the information presented here but this is not of my concern; who sees the potential and importance of this information is on the right path.
We should do an experiment which must not be taken lightly by not experienced traders and a misinterpretation of the information here; remember that the most potential you can get out of any trade is to trade with the trend at that moment; i will pick 2 major pairs and the direction to be traded, only buy or only sell for that pair and i will trade them tomorrow as my time allows; i will take the trades only in the direction specified even if is a counter trade which will hold less profit and greater risk.

As you said there are 2 high profitable dimensions, one for long and one for short, regarding your last pic, this is what i get:
a trade should be taken where each cycles is in balance, it seems like an attractor point

Pure gold is what you are giving here....whoever has the ears to listen and the eyes to see...
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second that stormtrader,

attraction points,converged points,a point of reference,upper and lower attractors, potentials,add the energy and you have the perfect mix.

good stuff mark

i think the metaphor has gone too far, but anyway, there are too many traders out there. and to understand the market means to understand 6 billions people..... ruling the worlds sound easier...