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  • #21
  • Edited 11:12pm Aug 7, 2006 10:58pm | Edited 11:12pm
Quoting matrung
Just a quick note

the non-lag MA does turn yellow/non yellow while the current candle/bar is still forming ... so i wouldn't enter a trade until the end of the current candle confirms that the yellow section doesn't switch back to a non signal.

eg .. on the current 4 hour candle the non-lag ma may show a yellow line indicating a go on a trade but during the formation of the candle it may switch from yellow (go signal) to a non-yellow (no trade) line.

so remember wait till the candle is fully formed until entering a potential trade!!!!

heheheh
It's depend if you are agressive or conservative ! If you are agressive, you can go when the non lag show for the first time a yellow line but if you are more conservative, like matrung said, wait for the candle to be fully formed.

To be more conservative means less profit but also more safety.

Thanks for the note matrung - I'm going to add the precision in the pdf.
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  • #22
  • Aug 7, 2006 11:04pm Aug 7, 2006 11:04pm
To chrinist :

I use green bars so I am not accustomed to the red and blue thing but you are right - it s more logical and more easy to read and it's very easy to change that in the color properties.

Thanks
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  • #23
  • Aug 7, 2006 11:04pm Aug 7, 2006 11:04pm
Quoting judex001
It's depend if you are agressive or conservative ! If you are agressive, you can go when the non lag show for the first time a yellow line but if you are more conservative, like matrung said, wait for the candle to be fully formed.

To be more conservative means less profit but also more safety.

Thanks for the note matrung - I'm going to add the precision in the pdf.
No problem, this little system doesn't look too bad i like the 4 hours time frame it allows for price to "smooth" itself out more and avoids the whipsaw's of the lesser timeframes ..
  • #24
  • Aug 7, 2006 11:07pm Aug 7, 2006 11:07pm
Quoting chrinist
hey judexx001 I know one thing that would help your indicator a lot is change the color of the dots. What I mean is, every chart Ive every seen is always blue means good red means bad. My candles are blue meaning the price is going up and red meaning the price is going down. Its just kind of awkward to see a red dote show up on your screen and you say buy it or a blue dot and sell it. Its nothing major just a little commit. just my 2 cents. Looks great. thanks for the hard work.


chrinist
You can customize the colors by right click on the chart and choose indicators list, then click on SHI_SilverTrendSig then click on edit,click on the colors tab , double click on the color you want to change and choose the color from the drop down list.
  • #25
  • Aug 8, 2006 12:18am Aug 8, 2006 12:18am
ok .. here's a little further contribution from me. although this line of thinking is based purely on "eyeballing" back data ...

it seems to me that to avoid whipsaws (based on the 4 hour timeframe), it looks like the order of the signals should be the following ..


1. SHI_silver trend should bring up a signal DOT
2. then the ERGODIC or non-lag MA should signal in the same direction as the DOT. doesn't look like it matters whether ERGODIC or non-lag MA shows up first.

note: it seems if the ERGODIC shows a signal then a dot appears say 1-2 candle bars after then it's a good chance that's it's a whipsaw indication and you should just avoid.

e.g ERGODIC starts indicating a buy signal at candle bar 1 ... then at candle bar 2-3 a SHI_silver trend buy DOT displays then the non-lag MA shows a yellow ... it seems to me that this will whipsaw and be a loosing trade ...

MORE TESTING needed though ..

however I am beginning to like this system more and more ...
  • #26
  • Aug 8, 2006 1:49am Aug 8, 2006 1:49am
Pipastic
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  • #27
  • Aug 8, 2006 6:53am Aug 8, 2006 6:53am
This method appears somewhat better at least on 4 H charts than BRAINTREND and the use of Trend Manager and Triggerlines, it appears the turning points appear one bar earlier on almost all entries, compared especially to Braintrend, which is a decent method, also the whipsaws with braintrend, which can occur from time to time are much less noticable with the tlatomi method, basically what we need is an Audio alert at the turning points.
  • #28
  • Aug 8, 2006 7:14am Aug 8, 2006 7:14am
Veryinteresting and simple method...thanks!
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  • #29
  • Aug 8, 2006 7:48am Aug 8, 2006 7:48am
Hi Judex,

This seems like it will be a great method. Thank you for sharing it with us.

I just wanted to point out something I noticed... I may be wrong, but I think we will all get different signals depending on the platform that we use (i.e. time zone differences? or data feed differences?). For instance, the first chart that you posted shows a picture perfect setup on GBP, i.e. dot appears first, then the cross, then the non-lag. However, in the charts that jlowder and carioca posted, as well as the one I'm seeing on my platform now, the non-lag appeared first, then the cross, then the blue dot, which would have meant that no trade would have been taken. After an initial scan through the past couple of days, the system still would have done well, regardless of platform. Anyway, I just thought I'd point out what I noticed so none of us will be confused with seemingly conflicting/different signals. Thanks again!

Nat
  • #30
  • Aug 8, 2006 8:22am Aug 8, 2006 8:22am
Quoting natgo
Hi Judex,

This seems like it will be a great method. Thank you for sharing it with us.

I just wanted to point out something I noticed... I may be wrong, but I think we will all get different signals depending on the platform that we use (i.e. time zone differences? or data feed differences?). For instance, the first chart that you posted shows a picture perfect setup on GBP, i.e. dot appears first, then the cross, then the non-lag. However, in the charts that jlowder and carioca posted, as well as the one I'm seeing on my platform now, the non-lag appeared first, then the cross, then the blue dot, which would have meant that no trade would have been taken. After an initial scan through the past couple of days, the system still would have done well, regardless of platform. Anyway, I just thought I'd point out what I noticed so none of us will be confused with seemingly conflicting/different signals. Thanks again!

Nat
I just realized I was posting the same time frame that he was. I just figured I was posting a later image... It would appear as if we are getting different results, but I'm using the exact same settings as posted in the PDF.

Wonder what is different.

Jason
  • #31
  • Aug 8, 2006 8:29am Aug 8, 2006 8:29am
the shi_silvertrendsig indicator that paints the dots is repainting the past,

dots are repainted, I had a dot @ 00:00 (using alpari) on GBPUSD and it magically was removed from 00:00 and painted on 04:00,
if u just look at dots u will c they accurately pinpoint the tops and the bottoms, the reason they do is that the indicator repaints the dots,
I looked at the code and it confirms this
  • #32
  • Edited 9:46am Aug 8, 2006 9:14am | Edited 9:46am
I'm not getting the three colors on the non lag.....I went in and changed the color property from 0 to 1 and that gave me the red and blue but where is the yellow indicator? ....
would you post the properties window so I can see the settings?
thanks
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  • #33
  • Edited 11:51am Aug 8, 2006 10:01am | Edited 11:51am
Quoting johnedoe
I'm not getting the three colors on the non lag.....I went in and changed the color property from 0 to 1 and that gave me the red and blue but where is the yellow indicator? ....
would you post the properties window so I can see the settings?
thanks
http://www.tlatomi.com/blog/images/properties.gif

http://www.tlatomi.com/blog/properties.gif
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  • #34
  • Aug 8, 2006 10:05am Aug 8, 2006 10:05am
Quoting jlowder
I just realized I was posting the same time frame that he was. I just figured I was posting a later image... It would appear as if we are getting different results, but I'm using the exact same settings as posted in the PDF.

Wonder what is different.

Jason
I notice that in the first posts - i don't know why. I use metatrader from FXDD in demo because my broker is FxSol and Fx accuchart don't have 4 hours charts for now (maybe one day i hope).
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  • #35
  • Aug 8, 2006 12:36pm Aug 8, 2006 12:36pm
So if a price bar has closed and a dot is above (or below) it, the dot can move to another bar later? Or are you saying that a dot may appear and dissapear before a bar has closed?



Quoting ziko123
the shi_silvertrendsig indicator that paints the dots is repainting the past,

dots are repainted, I had a dot @ 00:00 (using alpari) on GBPUSD and it magically was removed from 00:00 and painted on 04:00,
if u just look at dots u will c they accurately pinpoint the tops and the bottoms, the reason they do is that the indicator repaints the dots,
I looked at the code and it confirms this
  • #36
  • Aug 8, 2006 12:50pm Aug 8, 2006 12:50pm
Quoting FXLogic
So if a price bar has closed and a dot is above (or below) it, the dot can move to another bar later? Or are you saying that a dot may appear and dissapear before a bar has closed?
the dot can move to another bar later,
the indicator code reevaluates existing dots and move them if necessary depending on the price changes, so it repaints itself
  • #37
  • Aug 8, 2006 1:26pm Aug 8, 2006 1:26pm
Long GBP/USD @ 1.9098 - Stop @ 1.9053 - Exit @ 1.9128

Profit : 30 Pips

I move the stop to breakeven a few minutes after the entry and i exit the trade at 1.9128 because i just want to take advantage of the us news.

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  • #38
  • Aug 8, 2006 2:40pm Aug 8, 2006 2:40pm
Thanks for this Jude.I'm in the UK and use the free Metatrader demo on CABLE. The spots are,quite frankly staggering on the 4hour charts.As far as I'm concerned this is the nearest thing to a Holy Grail indicator that I have ever seen in five years of trading.AWESOME!!!

I could have made about 800pips since 26 July using it - see attached chart.

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  • #39
  • Edited 4:31pm Aug 8, 2006 2:54pm | Edited 4:31pm
Quoting 5324736
Thanks for this Jude.I'm in the UK and use the free Metatrader demo on CABLE. The spots are,quite frankly staggering on the 4hour charts.As far as I'm concerned this is the nearest thing to a Holy Grail indicator that I have ever seen in five years of trading.AWESOME!!!

I could have made about 800pips since 26 July using it - see attached chart.

Hi,

Thanks for the comment but be carreful with the backtesting because the shisilvertrend indicator repaints itself so the results in backtest are not always the real ones.

If you want to see the shi_silvertrend without repainting itself - modify the code :
for SH = 1 ; SH < NB ; SH++<nb;sh++>

replace by

for SH=1;SH<nb;sh++ sh="1;SH<nb;sh++" by="" for="" (sh="1;SH<nb;sh++)">=0;SH--

For now, i made all my tests in real time and use the signal dot only when the others 2 indicators are in the same way.

I m actually looking for an another indicator to replace the Shi_silverTrend.</nb;sh++></nb;sh++>
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  • #40
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:06pm Aug 8, 2006 3:06pm
Hi All,

Very good method, & it helps the current system that im actually using. This method enhances my TIGA ABDUL system. I uses 9SMA as an entry signal when it crosses 5EMA. This is also exactly where the yellow line crosses!!

The rest of the indicators help to sharpen my system especially to reduced fake-outs! Thanks so very much as it help my current system sharper & more profitable than it already is.

Happy Trading!
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