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  • #21
  • Mar 9, 2015 11:57am Mar 9, 2015 11:57am
bla bla bla ...

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  • #22
  • Mar 9, 2015 12:09pm Mar 9, 2015 12:09pm
Its so funny, a trader comes on, spot light goes on, then unless he can give the answer in 3 boxes the fruit and veg start flying. Damm if he is a sensitive type he is gone. Trolls go home, he said the most important thing in this thread but the retards did not pick it up because they don't even understand what he said.

If you are reading this do you know what the best line was?

Nope, your market food buddy.
  • #23
  • Edited Mar 10, 2015 9:38am Mar 9, 2015 12:28pm | Edited Mar 10, 2015 9:38am
One of the mathematicians, developed a fractal geometry based on the fourth dimension which is capable of describing mathematically the most chaotic form of the real world that we live in; for a while it was believed that there are 3 dimensions until the fourth was discovered; the fourth dimension includes an infinite set of fractional dimensions that lie between the first 3 dimension.
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psqxpvbal2.gif

The Point is the first ZERO dimension - the 0 dimension; the 5 dimensions are numbered from 0 to 4.
The point is the now-here moment, it is ground zero, the moment between the past and future; everything starts with the point and the zero dimension; the smallest of the double helixes in the dna.
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pswagcyowf.jpg
  • #24
  • Mar 9, 2015 1:24pm Mar 9, 2015 1:24pm
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  • #25
  • Mar 9, 2015 1:48pm Mar 9, 2015 1:48pm
Here come the trolls
  • #26
  • Mar 9, 2015 1:57pm Mar 9, 2015 1:57pm
Quoting Hurst
Here come the trolls
lol

I'm just fooling around

It's funny to see how people complicate simple things.

I haven't studied anything about fractals but I knew that I had to buy dollars after Friday's NFP.
  • #27
  • Mar 9, 2015 4:03pm Mar 9, 2015 4:03pm
Can anyone explain in very simple steps to follow or strategy to adopt to identify either its the time to buy or sell ( Day Trading)? I completly agree with Tingus. No complications please. Share ideas in simple and more efficient way.
  • #28
  • Mar 9, 2015 4:07pm Mar 9, 2015 4:07pm
"Fractals model complex physical processes and dynamical systems. The underlying principle of fractals is that a simple process that goes through infinitely many iterations becomes a very complex process. Fractals attempt to model the complex process by searching for the simple process underneath."

Major question is whether a market such as Forex is the result of infinitely many simple processes such that the process can be revealed by fractals theory?
Trading is the hardest way to make easy money...
  • #29
  • Edited 7:44pm Mar 9, 2015 6:21pm | Edited 7:44pm
so are you saying a point is a dimension, a connecting of two points is a second? and the third is like a wave on the graph, and... the fourth - that could be any 'point in time' represents all the possible ways price could move?
  • #30
  • Mar 9, 2015 7:06pm Mar 9, 2015 7:06pm
If this guy says the market can be predicted with fractals, then I get out my trolling hat. However I could prove that some of Ganns ideas were spot on, but 90% of traders would laugh at me so I don't bother.
  • #31
  • Mar 9, 2015 10:35pm Mar 9, 2015 10:35pm
Quoting Hurst
If this guy says the market can be predicted with fractals, then I get out my trolling hat. However I could prove that some of Ganns ideas were spot on, but 90% of traders would laugh at me so I don't bother.
hi bro, then create a thread about gann. i will gladly to follow and read.
we don't predict, we only ride
  • #32
  • Mar 10, 2015 4:58am Mar 10, 2015 4:58am
Traders that are looking for answers and have their doubts about the forex market must understand that the forex market will never be looked at the same time in the same way and reach an agreement from the traders point of view; every traders believes something else, have different psychology and trades their own systems, rules and indicators; nobody has the upper hand in controlling the forex market; no company, no individual, no bank, no matter how large, small or influencial.
Fractal geometry is used in science, medical, military domains, and can be used in the forex market for more profitable trading; everything in the universe is base on fractals at the very core and fractals are the ones the markets are based and structured on and the answer in the end to the profitable trading. Fractals are organized in attractors; attractors are like magnets that attract or repulse.
The Point Attractor is the first attractor and the simplest form; simple attraction or repulsion starts with this point attractor; the way a person is attracted to chocolate and repulsed from expired bad food; just like the poles of a magnet.
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psco96zcck.gif
Trading also starts with this point attractor and the balance and the order it brings to the forex market; the forex market is not random but is not predictable either; the forex market is both.
  • #33
  • Mar 10, 2015 5:07am Mar 10, 2015 5:07am
Market is not complicated after you have all the facts and is easy to trade; by understanding the fractals of the forex market a trader can make profitable trades and trade profitable for long term; sometimes the indicators stop working or systems fail being profitable because the forex market changed; wrong, the forex market does not change in that way, it is dynamic, yes, and it appears to be chaotic and random and changing from time to time to the eye of the trader that does not understand how it really works beyond the usual explanation.
  • #34
  • Mar 10, 2015 5:38am Mar 10, 2015 5:38am
The human mind is very strange even for the owner; it has the ability to bend things to go your expected way, it has the ability to make you see things that are not even there, it has the ability to leave out small not important things or to leave out small very important things; as it is when looking at a forex market chart no matter the time frame you are looking at; a trader has the "ability" to bend an indicator or a system to see what it pleases the trader. Test your system or indicator to all of the market conditions; very important is to test it in the most roughest conditions and in the most easyest conditions and keep in mind that looking at a chart from yesterday or last month is not the same as looking at it now all the time; test your system or indicator or any trading rule you follow forward not backward; if you have done that then your trading believe, rule or system should be the thing you should trade and be profitable in the forex market, day after day, year after year; how does your system handle :
THIS
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...psu5tv6fi7.jpg
or THIS
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...pssml9nyht.jpg
or THIS
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0xuvpqpz.jpg
  • #35
  • Mar 10, 2015 5:49am Mar 10, 2015 5:49am
Quoting mark72
The human mind is very strange even for the owner; it has the ability to bend things to go your expected way, it has the ability to make you see things that are not even there, it has the ability to leave out small not important things or to leave out small very important things; as it is when looking at a forex market chart no matter the time frame you are looking at; a trader has the "ability" to bend an indicator or a system to see what it pleases the trader. Test your system or indicator to all of the market conditions; very important is to...
one of the best views ever on trading. keep it flowing
Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.
  • #36
  • Mar 10, 2015 6:21am Mar 10, 2015 6:21am
Quoting mark72
The human mind is very strange even for the owner; it has the ability to bend things to go your expected way, it has the ability to make you see things that are not even there, it has the ability to leave out small not important things or to leave out small very important things; as it is when looking at a forex market chart no matter the time frame you are looking at; a trader has the "ability" to bend an indicator or a system to see what it pleases the trader. Test your system or indicator to all of the market conditions; very important is to...
continue my broooo....always follow
we don't predict, we only ride
  • #37
  • Mar 10, 2015 7:32am Mar 10, 2015 7:32am
I don't care how long you've been trading, or how good/bad your portfolio. As long as what you're saying make sense to me, I'll keep listening. For stuffs that doesn't, i simply ignore them. For stuff that i've already known, i simply consider them as reminders. So, keep it bro
  • #38
  • Mar 10, 2015 9:37am Mar 10, 2015 9:37am
If we consider the point as the now moment and we drag or multiply the point, left or right, it will create a line as everybody well knows; the line is the dimension 1 as the point was dimension 0; (i just corrected the previous post where i made a mistake naming the point the first dimension) we need to make a difference and make a parallel from mathematics, rules and formulas as we are talking about the forex market and this is not a geometry lesson but information about trading.
LINE is the first dimension - dimension 1.
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4ykccprz.jpg
Any line contains an infinite number of points and is made of a minimum 2 points; because the point(zero dimension) was the now moment and lines are made of points, the line is the future moment created and based on the points that is made of; the points are making a trajectory when constructing the line.
  • #39
  • Mar 10, 2015 10:03am Mar 10, 2015 10:03am
The second dimension is the PLANE;
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2yqttorw.gif

if you drag or multiply a straight line you will create or obtain the plane; as the point attractor was found in the zero dimension, the plane or the second dimension has another attractor which is the Cycle Attractor.
http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5owdo0gm.jpg

The Cycle Attractor has a forward - backward movement as a pendulum; the cycle attractor is more complex than the point attractor as it attracts then repulse than attracts again creating a cycle; in the markets it is the price moving up and down, in a range. Many of the traders were preocupied with the cycle nature of the market but looking at different things some quite distant from the truth. The Cycle Attractor because acting as a pendulum creates a relation or a tension between the 2 poles and creates a base for a more complex structure; just like the human brain where by having the 2 parts of the brain it is posible of havin another not seen or real part, the inspirational side of the humans.
  • #40
  • Mar 10, 2015 10:35am Mar 10, 2015 10:35am
As retail traders we have to pay spreads and commisions; traders have always read and heard that a good trader must have a stop loss and the most important and usual saying that a trader must cut the losses short; a lot of traders are closing a trade just on the simple fact that it did not jumped up or down the "next second" and will "cut the losses short" by closing the trade with a loss; closing a trade or the exit rule of a system must be very clear and not based on time; one of the first bricks of a solid trading is to close your trades on profit as much as it can be done; a loss is still a loss but yes, a smaller loss is preferable to a huge one, as long as you have a very good reason for closing that trade.
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