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  • #1,861
  • Feb 27, 2015 4:18pm Feb 27, 2015 4:18pm
Quoting Sifufx
{quote} Grow up. Obviously this venture is a total waste of time. Most likely you don't have the money to open a micro/nano account to test your EA on. You can demo trade to the cows come home. It will never ever replicate live market conditions. You are a fool thinking it does. Until you test this in a real live situation you are wasting your time , period. I do wish you luck and would just like to see its real performance, because perhaps it just may work. Until you try it live you will never know.
Hey, You i am reading your msgs. Why dont you try in live and let us know? You are here to see if someone trading live so that you can give it a try but i am sure that you dont have money to open a live account. Otherwise you would have showed us the live results....

You better grow up and read what other's already adviced you

Quoting spyderman
{quote} As stated over and over to newcomer's...if you'd read the thread you'd get your answers. There are several trading live...
  • #1,862
  • Feb 27, 2015 6:35pm Feb 27, 2015 6:35pm
Quoting spyderman
{quote} As stated over and over to newcomer's...if you'd read the thread you'd get your answers. There are several trading live...
where ?
  • #1,863
  • Feb 27, 2015 6:37pm Feb 27, 2015 6:37pm
Guys,

i am posting myfxbook summary for two accounts....

i was not sure that usdchf will be more successful then any other pair...

check out...
  • #1,864
  • Feb 27, 2015 6:40pm Feb 27, 2015 6:40pm
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This is my main account and i have traded many currencies in this account manually as well so i have removed them or cut them from both screenshots but i left visible which i am trading by using the ea...

this may help some traders and i will enjoy others if they can post it....

EDIT:- This account is in AUD. Main currency EU
  • #1,865
  • Feb 27, 2015 6:43pm Feb 27, 2015 6:43pm
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This is second account and this one is in USD....
EDIT:- Main currency pair GU
  • #1,866
  • Edited 9:10pm Feb 27, 2015 6:46pm | Edited 9:10pm
Quoting Sifufx
{quote} Grow up. Obviously this venture is a total waste of time. Most likely you don't have the money to open a micro/nano account to test your EA on. You can demo trade to the cows come home. It will never ever replicate live market conditions. You are a fool thinking it does. Until you test this in a real live situation you are wasting your time , period. I do wish you luck and would just like to see its real performance, because perhaps it just may work. Until you try it live you will never know.

Thanks for your lesson. I apologize to all the others testing for even dialoging with this dung beetle. Now run along and eat the feces you have collected over the day. We are not interested!

You are useless here...

Sorry about littering you thread with such and exchange Googletrader.


Testing continues...
Solutions ONLY!!!
  • #1,867
  • Feb 27, 2015 7:24pm Feb 27, 2015 7:24pm
For those that asked about this...


So tested 1.0 on both charts to show you cannot hedge with 1.0 with a magic number. It will not trade both direction at the same time. Notice when it trades on one chart, that there are gaps where no trades are taken on the other. This is the same as using 1.0 on one chart and setting it the long and short without following trend.

And

you can compare with same setup using 1.1 and 1.0

Notice the difference?

No gaps!

Both were successful for the day, so understand why I say the setting is important.

Whatever setting you choose needs to be successful in counter trend testing to be a good candidate for further forward testing. So backtest settings if you have 1.0. Backtest using long only setup and then short only for the same period to derive setting for the "hedge" idea.


Now after you get all that done. Get into some healthy learning of managing risk. There are many great threads discussing this. Marry this into your testing and you will be successful.

I'm speaking to you as well as myself with this statement.
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  • #1,868
  • Feb 27, 2015 8:46pm Feb 27, 2015 8:46pm
Quoting BillYon
For those that asked about this... So tested 1.0 on both charts to show you cannot hedge with 1.0 with a magic number. It will not trade both direction at the same time. Notice when it trades on one chart, that there are gaps where no trades are taken on the other. This is the same as using 1.0 on one chart and setting it the long and short without following trend. And you can compare with same setup using 1.1 and 1.0 Notice the difference? No gaps! Both were successful for the day, so understand why I say the setting is important. Whatever setting...
Appreciate your effort and report...I will post my results at the end of next week. I will be starting my test from Monday...
  • #1,869
  • Feb 27, 2015 9:51pm Feb 27, 2015 9:51pm
Quoting Justin
{quote} You mentioned few interesting points and worth testing. Can you please attach an image of your settings (for any pair) because I was confused with the step & TP values. Are you disabling the AutoStep and the AutoInitialStep? So when a trend changes you immediately close ALL opened positions for that pair and start allover? I hope you can clarify. Well appreciated.
Step is different from pairs,EU 10,UJ 15,others 13.
I dont sit in front of computer all time ,so you cant immediately close orders when trend change.But close them once you found it changed,sometimes the price would go further when I closed,sometime the price would bounce back a little,but I close them anyway.When I was in front of computer,I do it like this, wait till trend value get to 48% of opposite direction to close orders.
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  • #1,870
  • Feb 27, 2015 11:13pm Feb 27, 2015 11:13pm
Quoting Alyle
{quote} Step is different from pairs,EU 10,UJ 15,others 13. I dont sit in front of computer all time ,so you cant immediately close orders when trend change.But close them once you found it changed,sometimes the price would go further when I closed,sometime the price would bounce back a little,but I close them anyway.When I was in front of computer,I do it like this, wait till trend value get to 48% of opposite direction to close orders. {image}
Very clear. Thank you.
  • #1,871
  • Feb 27, 2015 11:18pm Feb 27, 2015 11:18pm
Quoting Alyle
{quote} Step is different from pairs,EU 10,UJ 15,others 13. I dont sit in front of computer all time ,so you cant immediately close orders when trend change.But close them once you found it changed,sometimes the price would go further when I closed,sometime the price would bounce back a little,but I close them anyway.When I was in front of computer,I do it like this, wait till trend value get to 48% of opposite direction to close orders. {image}
Thanks u for clarifying the settings you use....... obviously the previous message was the settings in points, not pips!

I'm testing your settings too, and again those of Husky this week (EU : 5, 5, 0.01, 1.2, 1, T, T, 10). (This 1 may be too risky for a small account though).

Have a great weekend all!
  • #1,872
  • Feb 27, 2015 11:24pm Feb 27, 2015 11:24pm
oh everyone still looking for the right set up specially in the bad day did learn my lesson did blown up my account normally do off the trade when going to bed but did forget then next morning . the EA his very good but now discover has to be monitored to avoid the big drawn Dow that my opinion if i did off the other night would have almost doubled my account in one month.
anywhere did start a new one then see what happen .

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Op
  • #1,873
  • Feb 28, 2015 3:02am Feb 28, 2015 3:02am
Hi guys, I just thought of this interesting idea.

Use CE to to open first position. I think this is possible if we make MultiLotsFactor = 0.0 which forces any trades after to be 0 lot and not place trade. Please let me know if anyone else can confirm this.

Manage the life of the position yourself. So it opens up your style and methodology of position size and spacing greatly, while still reaping benefits of trade direction and initial trade open.
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #1,874
  • Feb 28, 2015 3:09am Feb 28, 2015 3:09am
Quoting qFish
Hi guys, I just thought of this interesting idea. Use CE to to open first position. I think this is possible if we make MultiLotsFactor = 0.0 which forces any trades after to be 0 lot and not place trade. Please let me know if anyone else can confirm this. Manage the life of the position yourself. So it opens up your style and methodology of position size and spacing greatly, while still reaping benefits of trade direction and initial trade open.

please what do you mean???????????????????//
  • #1,875
  • Feb 28, 2015 3:09am Feb 28, 2015 3:09am
Quoting TheDirtySerb
Here are the two best I've found. Enjoy! {file} {file}
I personally like the SonicR thread's indicators for this :-), but I may be bias in this
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #1,876
  • Feb 28, 2015 3:14am Feb 28, 2015 3:14am
Quoting ellenbrook
{quote} please what do you mean???????????????????//
Hehe, so here goes:

Run CE 1.1 with your desired settings for trend detection, but set MultiLotsFactor = 0.0. So it will open the first trade only. Second trade and so on it will try to open but the lots = 0.0, so it will fail, so basicly it will only open 1 position.

You then manually manage the currently open position (either with your fingers or with another EA, I've written my own). When the basket closes, CE 1.1 will open another based on it's trend detection.

Rinse repeat. I'm currently testing this idea.

So why you may ask? Well, CE 1.1 is very limiting in how it manages the trade imho, and can be improved greatly. Until GT decides to update, we are stuck with what it can do. But this way, we are not limited.
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #1,877
  • Feb 28, 2015 3:27am Feb 28, 2015 3:27am
The 1.0 Version can be in any currency? we can do that for example in USDMXN or any weird currency?
  • #1,878
  • Feb 28, 2015 3:29am Feb 28, 2015 3:29am
Quoting qFish
{quote} Hehe, so here goes: Run CE 1.1 with your desired settings for trend detection, but set MultiLotsFactor = 0.0. So it will open the first trade only. Second trade and so on it will try to open but the lots = 0.0, so it will fail, so basicly it will only open 1 position. You then manually manage the currently open position (either with your fingers or with another EA, I've written my own). When the basket closes, CE 1.1 will open another based on it's trend detection. Rinse repeat. I'm currently testing this idea. So why you may ask? Well,...
ah okay thanks so much
  • #1,879
  • Feb 28, 2015 3:46am Feb 28, 2015 3:46am
Quoting ellenbrook
{quote} ah okay thanks so much
NP :-)
insanity: Doing the same thing over... and expecting different results -AE
  • #1,880
  • Feb 28, 2015 5:13am Feb 28, 2015 5:13am
Quoting ellenbrook
oh everyone still looking for the right set up specially in the bad day did learn my lesson did blown up my account normally do off the trade when going to bed but did forget then next morning . the EA his very good but now discover has to be monitored to avoid the big drawn Dow that my opinion if i did off the other night would have almost doubled my account in one month. anywhere did start a new one then see what happen . 1230670132015.02.26 21:53:46balanceDeposit3 000.00 1230670492015.02.26 21:55:01sell0.02eurusd1.119890.000001.119472015.02.26...
Extremely risky.
Using an initial lot of 0.02 and a multiplier of 1.5 will take you nowhere. In few days you account will blow up unless you have a 10K$.
My advice is to use a fixed lot sizing (multiplier =1) which is much safer and will give you a reasonable performance.
With your settings the total incremental lot size used at level 10 is 2.27 lots.
While if you use a starting lot of 0.10 with fixed sizing at level 10 the total lot size will be 1.0 lot.
The difference is quite huge.
With an initial lot of 0.1 & no multiplication there is a bigger chance for your account to survive compared to your current settings.
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