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  • #561
  • Feb 25, 2015 6:56pm Feb 25, 2015 6:56pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} As far as I know, its far from being a holy grail. The ideas as they were presented gave quite a good edge if used/understood correctly. Combine this to good money management and some basic experience in trading and you'll have amazing results. The funny part is that there is no secret. If there is a secret then it would be with the initiator/creator of the concept & not with people that learned by reading and practicing from whatever was available for them on a public thread.
that's why u never shared your discoveries?"or is it because u want the others to work"?or it's more easy that naive would have come to the brilliant trader for help OF COURSE FOR A LITTLE FEE ...you guys are so .....
  • #562
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:03pm Feb 25, 2015 7:03pm
Quoting vladutz112
{quote} that's why u never shared your discoveries?"or is it because u want the others to work"?or it's more easy that naive would have come to the brilliant trader for help OF COURSE FOR A LITTLE FEE ...you guys are so .....
Why all these intense emotions?
I'm not here to argue. If I ever asked you for a penny or if I ever refused to answer any question you had for me then yes please go ahead and get mad at me as you want. If someone else did that to you, then you can forward your anger to him.

I clearly came and asked if there was interest in the subject or if it is dead.
I'm neither a teacher nor a guru. I'm here to give and expect to learn at least a fraction of what I give.

I don't have any negativity to spread, so if everything you have towards me is negative, then I apologize, I can't contribute back.
If you have anything useful concerning trading that we can discuss and both benefit, then I'd be happy to discuss.

Hope I was clear
  • #563
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:07pm Feb 25, 2015 7:07pm
Quoting vladutz112
{quote} look what happend to ULLEN, MADMONEY,EURUSD and all the other gurus who gave the impression that they discovered some kind of mispricing and BS!!! when they actually wanted for others to pay them...for a while i suspected u too and i'm still suspecting you... people like this who can't do anything constructive just fool the others makes me feel disgusted
If you spend sometime analysing FX Jay's trades in-depth, and discussing his take on transient trading (with him if he is up to it), you'd realize that his method was/is sound, his trading is without a doubt excellent and inspired me to develop my own strategy using Transient Zones. He's not going to spill the beans and why should he? But if you go back and look at each and every one of his trades you might just improve your own trading as I have. I suggest if you want a different/new perspective on trading do work with the statistics provided by the various indicators that were developed on the similarity thread and adapt your own methods, you might just surprise yourself with the outcome. It took me around ~10 months to make my system, I'm still developing it today but I'm at a point were I can trade it with results that keep me happy!
Goodluck RParm
A Positive Mind, and Positive Spirit lead to True Happiness
  • #564
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:10pm Feb 25, 2015 7:10pm
So Jay,
Are you saying that you dont know that there was a huge shake up after the EURUSDD scandal and most of the TZ guys are at Penguintrader which is a small site started by Saver0?
  • #565
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:12pm Feb 25, 2015 7:12pm
penguintraders.com is where pirate pip etc went after getting kicked off here by FF manglement
  • #566
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:13pm Feb 25, 2015 7:13pm
Quoting vladutz112
{quote} look what happend to ULLEN, MADMONEY,EURUSD and all the other gurus who gave the impression that they discovered some kind of mispricing and BS!!! when they actually wanted for others to pay them...for a while i suspected u too and i'm still suspecting you... people like this who can't do anything constructive just fool the others makes me feel disgusted

hhhhmmm
Solutions ONLY!!!
  • #567
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:17pm Feb 25, 2015 7:17pm
Quoting Rparm
{quote} If you spend sometime analysing FX Jay's trades in-depth, and discussing his take on transient trading (with him if he is up to it), you'd realize that his method was/is sound, his trading is without a doubt excellent and inspired me to develop my own strategy using Transient Zones. He's not going to spill the beans and why should he? But if you go back and look at each and every one of his trades you might just improve your own trading as I have. I suggest if you want a different/new perspective on trading do work with the statistics provided...
2 MONTHS Ago i meet a real trader that guy theached me more in 4 days than i have learned in 5 years from this forums and courses and the fact that i'm angry it;s because that guy never asked me for a penny and never did that stupid shit with secret method and the bs that was here from all the top posters and on penguin it's already been shown that u need to know the direction without that the tz is useless and if u know the direction....u know my point...i hope this clears things up and others wont fall on this tipe of traps and btw if u are on a forum u are here TO HELP OTHERS !!!!!!!NOT BRAG HOW GOOD U ARE!!!JESUS!!!!!
  • #568
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:20pm Feb 25, 2015 7:20pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} Why all these intense emotions? I'm not here to argue. If I ever asked you for a penny or if I ever refused to answer any question you had for me then yes please go ahead and get mad at me as you want. If someone else did that to you, then you can forward your anger to him. I clearly came and asked if there was interest in the subject or if it is dead. I'm neither a teacher nor a guru. I'm here to give and expect to learn at least a fraction of what I give. I don't have any negativity to spread, so if everything you have towards me is negative,...
U COULD prove us wrong but i doubt u can do that because of penguin traders who put you down along with your tz bs an 99% probabilities
  • #569
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:23pm Feb 25, 2015 7:23pm
Quoting Kenergy
So Jay, Are you saying that you dont know that there was a huge shake up after the EURUSDD scandal and most of the TZ guys are at Penguintrader which is a small site started by Saver0?
I was still here while it was unfolding, and I decided to step back and spend time on trading and developing rather than participating in the macho talk contests that were taking place here and there.

I've taken a look at the website you mentioned, but unfortunately it looks as dead as the thread here.

In addition I don't see any of the initiators of the whole concept being members there (Vlady, Hepsibah, Josh, Kprsa, Scuirus, FreeFox, NorthTrader .. just to name a few)
  • #570
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:23pm Feb 25, 2015 7:23pm
Quoting Kenergy
So Jay, Are you saying that you dont know that there was a huge shake up after the EURUSDD scandal and most of the TZ guys are at Penguintrader which is a small site started by Saver0?
my guess it's hes looking for some fresh meat
  • #571
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:29pm Feb 25, 2015 7:29pm
If someone has any doubt about what i say go to penguin traders and ask the admin for a pass for the private threads and u will see there how "good"are this fellas
  • #572
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:30pm Feb 25, 2015 7:30pm
Quoting vladutz112
{quote} my guess it's hes looking for some fresh meat
Some things never change.
Good luck reaching anywhere with this attitude.

Now go nag on other threads why there are no successful traders on FF and that everyone is a scam
  • #573
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:35pm Feb 25, 2015 7:35pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} Why all these intense emotions? I'm not here to argue. If I ever asked you for a penny or if I ever refused to answer any question you had for me then yes please go ahead and get mad at me as you want. If someone else did that to you, then you can forward your anger to him. I clearly came and asked if there was interest in the subject or if it is dead. I'm neither a teacher nor a guru. I'm here to give and expect to learn at least a fraction of what I give. I don't have any negativity to spread, so if everything you have towards me is negative,...
Wow that is a lot of negativity being thrown at you. I dont think there is any need for that.

I am very interested to continue discussing this topic further. TZ's are all I use these days. The thread died because FF wanted it to, because of the possible negative press that surrounded EURUSDD and his scamming ideas. Its nothing against TZ's, FF just didnt want to take the risk on any bad press so they tipped who they needed to out.

Surely this was apparent?

Anyway, lets move forward and fire this conversation back up! Maybe you would like to get the ball rolling? I have studied pretty much all of your previous TZ posts.
What's it all about? It's all about money.
  • #574
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:36pm Feb 25, 2015 7:36pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} Some things never change. Good luck reaching anywhere with this attitude. Now go nag on other threads why there are no successful traders on FF and that everyone is a scam
SMARTASS go TO PENGUIN TRADERS AND LOOK THERE!!!if they let you.....
  • #575
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:37pm Feb 25, 2015 7:37pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} Some things never change. Good luck reaching anywhere with this attitude. Now go nag on other threads why there are no successful traders on FF and that everyone is a scam
i;m fortunate that i escaped this traps by shit people like you and the others but it seems you are looking for others to make you bank account
  • #576
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:39pm Feb 25, 2015 7:39pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} I was still here while it was unfolding, and I decided to step back and spend time on trading and developing rather than participating in the macho talk contests that were taking place here and there. I've taken a look at the website you mentioned, but unfortunately it looks as dead as the thread here. In addition I don't see any of the initiators of the whole concept being members there (Vlady, Hepsibah, Josh, Kprsa, Scuirus, FreeFox, NorthTrader .. just to name a few)
It is a shame that Vlady won't even post here anymore.
I think a lot of the silence is that everything is there that needs to be there. I can't say I have made a success of it yet, but I cant think of any questions to ask either. I just havent spent the time required to get it to happen. That and I run into MT4 problems and give up when I cant get things to work right.
  • #577
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:39pm Feb 25, 2015 7:39pm
Quoting Innate
{quote} Wow that is a lot of negativity being thrown at you. I dont think there is any need for that. I am very interested to continue discussing this topic further. TZ's are all I use these days. The thread died because FF wanted it to, because of the possible negative press that surrounded EURUSDD and his scamming ideas. Its nothing against TZ's, FF just didnt want to take the risk on any bad press so they tipped who they needed to out. Surely this was apparent? Anyway, lets move forward and fire this conversation back up! Maybe you would like...
go to penguin traders and look there they have already talked about fx jay scam....of course hes being nice again to attract other naive traders
  • #578
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:41pm Feb 25, 2015 7:41pm
Quoting vladutz112
{quote} go to penguin traders and look there they have already talked about fx jay scam....of course hes being nice again to attract other naive traders
FX JAY PROVE that i'm a hater and u have an edge!!!!!!!!PROVE!!!!! not talks!!!! until then all others go to penguin and read about fx jay don't let this people allure you
  • #579
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:46pm Feb 25, 2015 7:46pm
Quoting FX-Jay
{quote} Some things never change. Good luck reaching anywhere with this attitude. Now go nag on other threads why there are no successful traders on FF and that everyone is a scam
I agree with Jay, go somewhere so people who want to talk trading don't have to deal with your distractions.
  • #580
  • Feb 25, 2015 7:49pm Feb 25, 2015 7:49pm
Quoting Innate
{quote} Wow that is a lot of negativity being thrown at you. I dont think there is any need for that. I am very interested to continue discussing this topic further. TZ's are all I use these days. The thread died because FF wanted it to, because of the possible negative press that surrounded EURUSDD and his scamming ideas. Its nothing against TZ's, FF just didnt want to take the risk on any bad press so they tipped who they needed to out. Surely this was apparent? Anyway, lets move forward and fire this conversation back up! Maybe you would like...
I have to agree with what FF did. Things were getting out of control.
Unfortunately few good people had to pay the price even if they weren't as guilty as the others.

Anwz I'm not here to discuss what happened. I'd be glad to get the ball rolling.
Let's just hope that our angry buddy will let us have a useful conversation
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