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  • #1,661
  • Feb 24, 2015 7:17am Feb 24, 2015 7:17am
Quoting Justin
I think it's fair to say that using TRUE for Autostep & AutoInitialStep is much safer for the account. Have a look at the attached image for UJ. The latest trade was opened at a distance of 41.6 pips away from the previous one. If this was set to FALSE the EA would have opened 4 trades in this span of distance if set to 10 as the default value. Keep this in mind if moving to LIVE trading. {image}

Yes it would be nice if 1.1 allowed multi-direction so we could utilize the auto-step if desired.
I don't think that's an issue for you BillYon, is it? I believe you're not using autostep in either version?
  • #1,662
  • Feb 24, 2015 7:18am Feb 24, 2015 7:18am
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  • #1,663
  • Feb 24, 2015 8:28am Feb 24, 2015 8:28am
Quoting spyderman
{quote} Nicely laid out. {quote} You could just set 1.1 for longs only and 1.0 for shorts only...correct?

No

ver 1.1 depends on Community trend so you cannot set it for longs only. It will not trade long if community trend is down.

Thats why I let 1.1 lead and use 1.0 to hedge as it can take trade without community trend needed
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  • #1,664
  • Feb 24, 2015 8:34am Feb 24, 2015 8:34am
Quoting armyda
{image}

You seem to have 1.1 and 1.0 in the same direction. Not hedged

I have had no problem with Dynamic TP

the 1 buy order is covered up but you get the idea...
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  • #1,665
  • Feb 24, 2015 8:38am Feb 24, 2015 8:38am
Quoting spyderman
{quote} Yes it would be nice if 1.1 allowed multi-direction so we could utilize the auto-step if desired. I don't think that's an issue for you BillYon, is it? I believe you're not using autostep in either version?
You can not auto step 1.0 but you can still hedge against the community trend detection and auto step 1.1

It has to be tested. I have not tried this.
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  • #1,666
  • Feb 24, 2015 8:40am Feb 24, 2015 8:40am
Quoting armyda
{image}
i'm a bit confused on your picture
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  • #1,667
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:02am Feb 24, 2015 9:02am
Your system is interesting BillYon
maybe for the newbies could you explain again with the settings of each EA
the size of lot is depending money management but we are waiting in demo for a big move to appreciate the DD with 2 EA
thx for contribution
  • #1,668
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:09am Feb 24, 2015 9:09am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} No ver 1.1 depends on Community trend so you cannot set it for longs only. It will not trade long if community trend is down. Thats why I let 1.1 lead and use 1.0 to hedge as it can take trade without community trend needed
It will not trade long if community trend is down??
MY EA 1.1. trade,when the comunity is down,buy only!!
Great confusion excuse me
Can you explane better?
  • #1,669
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:12am Feb 24, 2015 9:12am
yes Billyon
i understand your idea but don't your settings.. for 1.0 and 1.0

thank's
  • #1,670
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:13am Feb 24, 2015 9:13am
Quoting madscalp
Your system is interesting BillYon maybe for the newbies could you explain again with the settings of each EA the size of lot is depending money management but we are waiting in demo for a big move to appreciate the DD with 2 EA thx for contribution

Try different settings....

But

Start with Eur/USD Minimum 5k for the setting.

EA 1.1

Internal trend 10
TP 5
lot 5k for every 0.01
multi lot 1.5
multi lot trend change 1.5
false
false
step 2



EA 1.0
Community trend false
internal trend 10
lot 5k for every 0.01
step 4
TP 3
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  • #1,671
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:16am Feb 24, 2015 9:16am
There is a curious thing:
in my first chart with v 1.1 the trend is clearly down with 3 buys taken earlier but in my second chart with "short only" on v 1.0 I don't any trade
any idea ?
  • #1,672
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:17am Feb 24, 2015 9:17am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} Try different settings.... But Start with Eur/USD Minimum 5k for the setting. EA 1.1 Internal trend 10 TP 5 lot 5k for every 0.01 multi lot 1.5 multi lot trend change 1.5 false false step 2 EA 1.0 Community trend false internal trend 10 lot 5k for every 0.01 step 4 TP 3
Now very clear!!
  • #1,673
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:20am Feb 24, 2015 9:20am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} Try different settings.... But Start with Eur/USD Minimum 5k for the setting. EA 1.1 Internal trend 10 TP 5 lot 5k for every 0.01 multi lot 1.5 multi lot trend change 1.5 false false step 2 EA 1.0 Community trend false internal trend 10 lot 5k for every 0.01 step 4 TP 3
OK
in my opinion if the DD is acceptable the lot size can be increased because with your system we have a TP top and bottom
  • #1,674
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:24am Feb 24, 2015 9:24am
Quoting madscalp
There is a curious thing: in my first chart with v 1.1 the trend is clearly down with 3 buys taken earlier but in my second chart with "short only" on v 1.0 I don't any trade any idea ?

Cancel all 3 buy trades and start over

Make sure 1.0 is set for long only in the common tab. Make sure allow live trading and dll imports is set.
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  • #1,675
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:29am Feb 24, 2015 9:29am
Quoting madscalp
{quote} OK in my opinion if the DD is acceptable the lot size can be increased because with your system we have a TP top and bottom



Do not increase lot size more than 0.01 per 5k

Mulit factor at 1.5 must be considered

You will feel the burn...trust me!!!
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  • #1,676
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:32am Feb 24, 2015 9:32am
Quoting BillYon
{quote} Cancel all 3 buy trades and start over Make sure 1.0 is set for long only in the common tab. Make sure allow live trading and dll imports is set.
It's the case
there were a trend change after 3 buys on the first one and normally the second EA on only short should have taken a sell ???
now we have to see the better about step and TP....your settings are very agressive
  • #1,677
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:39am Feb 24, 2015 9:39am
Test results. I have been running 5pairs - EUR/USD, USD/CAD,GBP/USD,USD/JPY and AUD/USD. 2 Account with 2500$ each, .01 lots. First account had setting to default, Second Autostep and AutoInitialstep disabled to emulate 1.0. The idea was to see how they would both preform and compare to one another. Now, this is only the first 24 hours, I will post more results after a week,2 weeks etc.
1st acc.
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  • #1,678
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:41am Feb 24, 2015 9:41am
Quoting madscalp
{quote} It's the case there were a trend change after 3 buys on the first one and normally the second EA on only short should have taken a sell ??? now we have to see the better about step and TP

It's not exact as such.

Just give both a chance to start opening trades

even with trend change if you already have trades open the EA will continue buying. If I only have 3 buys open on trend change I will just cancel them and take that small loss. Set 1.0 for longs and move on from there.

If I have 7 buys opened during trend change I will let them continue until they hit target price. I will not change 1.0 to long until targets are hit on 1.1

Just let it run a bit so you can see them both open trades and more understanding will come

Just remember that the EA will not start taking shorts if you still have buys opened that have yet to hit target. It will continue taking buys if multi lot is more than 1.0 and in my case it's 1.5
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  • #1,679
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:48am Feb 24, 2015 9:48am
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  • #1,680
  • Feb 24, 2015 9:53am Feb 24, 2015 9:53am
Quoting BillYon
Just remember that the EA will not start taking shorts if you still have buys opened that have yet to hit target.
I don't understand...
In your post 1654, you have posted a chart with orders buy and orders sell.
Could you explain the orders opened by each EA ?
Thx.
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