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  • #3,701
  • Feb 5, 2015 3:33am Feb 5, 2015 3:33am
Quoting Jadgeha
in my opinion it will be a long process to solve the mess of alpari
Jad just think...

when Alpari uk is gone bust FCA and KPMG reported "as far as we know the whole amount in segregated pool is there in according the FCA/CASS rules" and there is SAR inside to check this not just KPMG.

in the same process...

When Liquidmarkets FX gone bust FCA and "their special amministration" reported "as fa as we know there is a deficit of money on segregated account.".

So just this let me think than is true what they said.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,702
  • Edited 4:00am Feb 5, 2015 3:35am | Edited 4:00am
Quoting Mroue26
{quote} already opened a new account with ironfx on 02-02-2015 i only deposited 100$ and now after 3 days its 1350$ testing my new strategy and its working PERFECTLY i heard they are offering 100% bonus ill give it a try {image}
show times and your account on May 1, ok? So that we can laugh at your brilliant strategy. what makes you think they call a game. Then play continues like this. It is possible to say when your account crashes. With strategy it has nothing to do. I put 50% of my account. Profit or loss. Anyone can fool. Strategy means preservation of capital plus profit, and that in the long term. What you're doing is just exactly what brought Alpari UK into trouble. Have you learned absolutely nothing from it all?
  • #3,703
  • Feb 5, 2015 3:51am Feb 5, 2015 3:51am
Quoting Jadgeha
in my opinion it will be a long process to solve the mess of alpari
Yes. It always is. Not just in Alpari case.
But it will be done.
Per aspera ad astra
  • #3,704
  • Feb 5, 2015 3:54am Feb 5, 2015 3:54am
http://forexmagnates.com/alpari-uks-...awal-requests/
  • #3,705
  • Feb 5, 2015 3:56am Feb 5, 2015 3:56am
Quoting leokatz
{quote} show times and your account on May 1, ok? So that we can laugh at your brilliant strategy.


Quoting neoxis
{quote} Jad just think... when Alpari uk is gone bust FCA and KPMG reported "as far as we know the whole amount in segregated pool is there in according the FCA/CASS rules" and there is SAR inside to check this not just KPMG. in the same process... When Liquidmarkets FX gone bust FCA and "their special amministration" reported "as fa as we know there is a deficit of money on segregated account.". So just this let me think than is true what they said.
respect bro i wil keep hope
and your right 100% about ur analyst
  • #3,706
  • Feb 5, 2015 4:12am Feb 5, 2015 4:12am
Quoting leokatz
{quote} show times and your account on May 1, ok? So that we can laugh at your brilliant strategy. what makes you think they call a game. Then play continues like this. It is possible to say when your account crashes. With strategy it has nothing to do. I put 50% of my account. Profit or loss. Anyone can fool. Strategy means preservation of capital plus profit, and that in the long term. What you're doing is just exactly what brought Alpari UK into trouble. Have you learned absolutely nothing from it all?
  • #3,707
  • Feb 5, 2015 4:22am Feb 5, 2015 4:22am
Quoting nAVIN2007
{quote}
yesss, some people do not see opportunities. Many of the clients of Alpari see it as an opportunity to rethink their strategies. Some people do the opposite. You can gamble with play money. No Problem. I called three brokers who provide when registering immediately 20 or 25 € for trading are available. That's money to gamble. But gamble with your own money? It would be fatal. ten times succeeds and the eleventh time the account has crashed. The whole thing is called probability. I've done it without problems, crashing these accounts. Because I sat on sinking Euro, hehehe. Not always you are on the right side of the trade. With 20 € but no risk management is possible. Profit or loss. But with their own money, I would do otherwise. In the long run than 1% open positions by capital. Then, almost never crash something. Ok, the CHF was an exception. But otherwise? I win about 60%. This is sufficient for profit.
  • #3,708
  • Feb 5, 2015 4:30am Feb 5, 2015 4:30am
Quoting leokatz
{quote} yesss, some people do not see opportunities. Many of the clients of Alpari see it as an opportunity to rethink their strategies. Some people do the opposite. You can gamble with play money. No Problem. I called three brokers who provide when registering immediately 20 or 25 € for trading are available. That's money to gamble. But gamble with your own money? It would be fatal. ten times succeeds and the eleventh time the account has crashed. The whole thing is called probability. I've done it without problems, crashing these accounts. Because...
very true..forex is a game of probability, there are many factors..the only thing u can do to protect yourself is play with a good mm..otherwise account will be blown..nobody can be different..that guy is just kidding himself..we need to pray for him because he is deluded
  • #3,709
  • Feb 5, 2015 4:30am Feb 5, 2015 4:30am
Oh, and those who do not know: Kamikaze pilots were the Japanese Air Force, which made attacks in intention dey Suicides in World War II. Otherwise, I would have written Harakiri-that would be the ritual suicide, making any no difference.
  • #3,710
  • Feb 5, 2015 4:33am Feb 5, 2015 4:33am
Quoting nAVIN2007
{quote} very true..forex is a game of probability, there are many factors..the only thing u can do to protect yourself is play with a good mm..otherwise account will be blown..nobody can be different..that guy is just kidding himself..we need to pray for him because he is deluded
Nope he will learn from the total loss. No more ingenious stating over profits. Then I can also play the lottery, hahaha.
  • #3,711
  • Feb 5, 2015 4:34am Feb 5, 2015 4:34am
Quoting leokatz
Oh, and those who do not know: Kamikaze pilots were the Japanese Air Force, which made attacks in intention dey Suicides in World War II. Otherwise, I would have written Harakiri-that would be the ritual suicide, making any no difference.
  • #3,712
  • Feb 5, 2015 4:35am Feb 5, 2015 4:35am
Quoting Jadgeha
{quote}
  • #3,713
  • Feb 5, 2015 4:36am Feb 5, 2015 4:36am
http://forexmagnates.com/alpari-uks-...awal-requests/

how can this be possible
read thsi guyz
we can consider it as a good sign that KPMG IS on the right track according to their previous announcment
  • #3,714
  • Feb 5, 2015 5:35am Feb 5, 2015 5:35am
Quoting Jadgeha
http://forexmagnates.com/alpari-uks-...awal-requests/ how can this be possible read thsi guyz we can consider it as a good sign that KPMG IS on the right track according to their previous announcment

this is common its a simply case of not knowing and someone trying to make sense of the fact that kmpg or whatever is trying to open a new claim portal..but its a load of rubbish..kmpg want most likely to make a claim portal specifically for alpari uk folks affected by this bs

A kind of dedicated portal with high secruity measures perhaps they dont trust the old one..u see how this work. I also am speculating hehe
  • #3,715
  • Feb 5, 2015 5:48am Feb 5, 2015 5:48am
Quoting missluna1982
for everyone that wants to join up and do something please join this group: https://www.facebook.com/alpariclients
Imho FB is not a good option, as many people are not on FB for a reason and do not want to be on FB.

It's better to use ForexFactory. (is it possible to have a closed group, to hide discussion from public view?)
Or perhaps set up our own blog, to stay in control.

For all those who just want to await the outcome of Special Administration procedure - think twice.
What if you don't like the outcome?
Wouldn't it be better to be prepared and know your options ahead?

@ all traders that got their open positions closed on Friday by Alpari - please don't accept "Force Majeure" as valid reason for them to shut down our trades and their operation. Because it's not, as i stated earlier in this thread.

My trade - which had nothing to do with Swissy - was in a drawddown but recovering.
By now it would have allowed me to break even again. And my TP was even further away.

But as they closed my trade, they forced me to take the loss, and now my balance is way smaller than it needed to be.
(So even if i would get my balance in full according to the last Account statement from Alpari, they still stole me / owe me more than 10k)

All because mismanagement and undercapitalization of Alapri UK. - which now tries to blame "Force Majeure" for it.

We should not let them get away with this.
  • #3,716
  • Feb 5, 2015 6:20am Feb 5, 2015 6:20am
Quoting Mystique
{quote} Imho FB is not a good option, as many people are not on FB for a reason and do not want to be on FB. It's better to use ForexFactory. (is it possible to have a closed group, to hide discussion from public view?) Or perhaps set up our own blog, to stay in control. For all those who just want to await the outcome of Special Administration procedure - think twice. What if you don't like the outcome? Wouldn't it be better to be prepared and know your options ahead? @ all traders that got their open positions closed on Friday by Alpari - please...
so what do you recommand to do ?
  • #3,717
  • Feb 5, 2015 6:57am Feb 5, 2015 6:57am
Anyway if you think guys is a good news than japanese customers can withdraw funds from segregated funds. That means money are still there.
myfxbook: neoxis
  • #3,718
  • Feb 5, 2015 7:10am Feb 5, 2015 7:10am
They will steal at least half of the money KPMG and Alpari and leave us back to "fight/claim" with FCA.

And even if u are right, it will take months/Years to get any money ...
  • #3,719
  • Feb 5, 2015 7:23am Feb 5, 2015 7:23am
Quoting nAVIN2007
{quote} this is common its a simply case of not knowing and someone trying to make sense of the fact that kmpg or whatever is trying to open a new claim portal..but its a load of rubbish..kmpg want most likely to make a claim portal specifically for alpari uk folks affected by this bs A kind of dedicated portal with high secruity measures perhaps they dont trust the old one..u see how this work. I also am speculating hehe
Alpari's web site has been working for years without any problem, otherwise alpari would have changed it, and now they will build a new system and test it out on us?
like we need more risk at our monies.
  • #3,720
  • Feb 5, 2015 7:51am Feb 5, 2015 7:51am
Quoting forexTN14
They will steal at least half of the money KPMG and Alpari and leave us back to "fight/claim" with FCA. And even if u are right, it will take months/Years to get any money ...

we need to take this to the papers..this is really cheesing me off..this thing has completely ruined my trading career
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