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  • #281
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:00am Jan 7, 2015 7:00am
Take my word of advise. Topic starter uses this EA IN CONJUNCTION with another method for entry. These is no way in hell grid trading is profitable as a stand-alone without any variables added to determine an early trend reversal or next leg continuation.

USD/JPY DD last couple of days showed this. When the longer term trend changes, or in wide ranging markets, people in here will experience alot of pain, if trading live. Not saying grid trading is not profitable, but it always needs to be used in conjuction with other systems. Its simply a managing method.

The "community trend detection" will not have a correct synergy with this method, simply because the market is often ranging, also on higher TF's. You will always be left behind. Because last days were heavy trending its quite difficult to see the flaws of this.

I am however a bit interested in the "peak detection" of the topic starter. That is a whole different story.
  • #282
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:07am Jan 7, 2015 7:07am
Quoting Robertk
Take my word of advise. Topic starter uses this EA IN CONJUNCTION with another method for entry. These is no way in hell grid trading is profitable as a stand-alone without any variables added to determine an early trend reversal or next leg continuation. USD/JPY DD last couple of days showed this. When the longer term trend changes people in here will experience alot of pain, if trading live. Not saying grid trading is not profitable, but it always needs to be used in conjuction with other systems. Its simply a managing method.
So you are saying periods of Draw Down are painful but necessary for making profit and if its grids into entry or cost averaging into a position is profitable then its okay to trade this way and this just like other systems will have losses ?
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #283
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:15am Jan 7, 2015 7:15am
Quoting Sekhbet
{quote} what does your journal show?
it only said "ea loaded successfully." thx
  • #284
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:21am Jan 7, 2015 7:21am
Quoting Rooi
{quote} So you are saying periods of Draw Down are painful but necessary for making profit and if its grids into entry or cost averaging into a position is profitable then its okay to trade this way and this just like other systems will have losses ?
No, i am saying that people should not consider the grids in combination with some vague "trend detection" an edge, except when it comes to management. Alot of people rely on a trend detection program in here, posting some green acc statements, while its common sense methods like this one will have insanely good results in heavy trending markets.

Its the SHIFT into a different state however that will destroy them. Markets nature exists of deviation, often into extremes. Entries will be too late and grid trading will all of sudden become very negative. Its this shift that needs to be anticipated or say bye bye to your account.

With respect to people posting their statements, dont be blind.
  • #285
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:25am Jan 7, 2015 7:25am
Quoting FXyao
{quote} it only said "ea loaded successfully." thx
Look at this post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...21#post7375121
  • #286
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:29am Jan 7, 2015 7:29am
Quoting Robertk
{quote} No, i am saying that people should not consider the grids in combination with some vague "trend detection" an edge, except when it comes to management. Alot of people rely on a trend detection program in here, posting some green acc statements, while its common sense methods like this one will have insanely good results in heavy trending markets. Its the SHIFT into a different state however that will destroy them. Markets nature exists of deviation, often into extremes. Entries will be too late and grid trading will all of sudden become...
So you have had this negative experience before ?

I think people can make their own choices

Rooi
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  • #287
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:32am Jan 7, 2015 7:32am
Quoting Rooi
{quote} So you have had this negative experience before ? I think people can make their own choices Rooi
Yeah ofcourse i had, we are all learning no? I have experienced this on backtesting, as well as live. Over a large enough sample, not just a few weeks of heavy trending.
  • #288
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:40am Jan 7, 2015 7:40am
Quoting Robertk
{quote} Yeah ofcourse i had, we are all learning no? I have experienced this on backtesting, as well as live. Over a large enough sample, not just a few weeks of heavy trending.
I see.

thank you for sharing your info here

All the best

Rooi
We miss 100% of the shots we don't take
  • #289
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:44am Jan 7, 2015 7:44am
Please do not litter the thread. Because then people can't find answers among the many posts.

If you want to argue, you may create a separate thread and i will add link to this thread into my first post.

Thanks
  • #290
  • Jan 7, 2015 7:46am Jan 7, 2015 7:46am
Quoting Rooi
{quote} I see. thank you for sharing your info here All the best Rooi
np, i will be sure to hang around from time to time. While i am not implementing anything of this method/program, i find it interesting to see how things will progress in here..
  • #291
  • Jan 7, 2015 8:24am Jan 7, 2015 8:24am
Quoting GoogleTrader
{quote} Look at this post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...21#post7375121
google trader,

I could not find the template after installation. Other setting are the same. Thx
  • #292
  • Jan 7, 2015 8:26am Jan 7, 2015 8:26am
Quoting FXyao
{quote} google trader, I could not find the template after installation. Other setting are the same. Thx
This not required, simple check checkboxes
  • #293
  • Jan 7, 2015 8:32am Jan 7, 2015 8:32am
I have installed successfully . But i have not recieve template folder . only recieved expert folder . so can anyone help me about this ?
  • #294
  • Jan 7, 2015 10:14am Jan 7, 2015 10:14am
Hy Googletrader... any future plan to have some implementation for reverse trend or hedging? I think this trend system is amazing but when trend change we need to start to open hedge position also with same grid logic...In my cdemo account i'm obviouvsly in stuck with GBP/USD waiting to recover ... In the mean time trend changed (many times) and with the same logic i could have same DD but much money in my pocket....
What do you think?
Thanks
Regards
  • #295
  • Jan 7, 2015 10:24am Jan 7, 2015 10:24am
Quoting cescof
Hy Googletrader... any future plan to have some implementation for reverse trend or hedging? I think this trend system is amazing but when trend change we need to start to open hedge position also with same grid logic...In my cdemo account i'm obviouvsly in stuck with GBP/USD waiting to recover ... In the mean time trend changed (many times) and with the same logic i could have same DD but much money in my pocket.... What do you think? Thanks Regards
Hi
I understand the problem with trend change, please wait my new post with new version. I have implemented some ideas, in compare to current version seems this may help based on backtests. Because backtest too slow i need some more time.
  • #296
  • Jan 7, 2015 10:41am Jan 7, 2015 10:41am
Quoting GoogleTrader
{quote} Hi I understand the problem with trend change, please wait my new post with new version. I have implemented some ideas, in compare to current version seems this may help based on backtests. Because backtest too slow i need some more time.
Ok thanks I can't wait Regards
  • #297
  • Edited 11:56am Jan 7, 2015 11:26am | Edited 11:56am
Hi Matrix Grid Trading Community and GoogleTrader

I started yesterday with EU like everyone but since so many people are testing already like that,I have decided to test a basket.

I will post TE and Screenshot of chart once a day here in the thread if that okay with GoogleTrader

All the best

Rooi


PS - Please bear in mind that mine is just about as aggressive as I would go with it for now.
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  • #298
  • Jan 7, 2015 11:44am Jan 7, 2015 11:44am
What is the highest number or trade did you get before the TP is reach ?

If your going out of units, what is your recommendation ?
  • #299
  • Jan 7, 2015 11:50am Jan 7, 2015 11:50am
Hi Rooi,
I think it would be nice if you share the config of the EA, finally is the most important thing. I think that we need to get the most profitable setup and the way is to share the config.
  • #300
  • Jan 7, 2015 11:56am Jan 7, 2015 11:56am
Quoting bypasssbo
Hi Rooi, I think it would be nice if you share the config of the EA, finally is the most important thing. I think that we need to get the most profitable setup and the way is to share the config.
Added it to origenal post
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