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  • #1,061
  • Dec 9, 2014 12:37am Dec 9, 2014 12:37am
Quoting thodie
{quote} another one.... Mr. Ken A Homes {image}
Ken A, I don't really know you, and I hope you take no offence, but I think I will start calling you Sherlock!
What you do is a reflection of you....what I do is a reflection of me.
  • #1,062
  • Dec 9, 2014 12:55am Dec 9, 2014 12:55am
Quoting Obi
... one high profile member who had been following my thread have confirmed my fear, the reason I was withholding some important information. we exchanged PM and we agree on working on an indicator that will represent my idea for the benefit of the thread and he gave his email for contact. He asked for outline and guideline which I gave him ( I gave him a simple guideline with some important info and filters missing to test his honesty), Next, he started demanding for money, hmm!
I'm sorry to see your reaction about this. To be honest with everybody here, I am the one he is talking about here (I think!).

You contacted a professional MT4 programmer and you are expecting to get the service for free. It isn't like if I take the initiative to code something for a thread. I did this freely plenty of times since 2007.

Please accept my apologize if there was a misunderstanding.

PS: if needed, feel free to post here the exact PMs we exchanged ... so others will see that we didn't agree on anything. I just requested you to send all the details for study.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #1,063
  • Edited 1:42am Dec 9, 2014 1:29am | Edited 1:42am
dancing phil ,i seen it all now
I'm interested to hear how many large lot traders exist here in FF; say trading north of 100 lots per trade.

I've been trading at 500 lots for most of the last 2 years; trading up from a $200 account I did not blow up some years ago. And I've recently learned that one of my students has traded up from his $200 account to more than $300,000 now; a solid result in 11 months. He's taken out $200,000, and continues with $100,000 at 100 lots per trade.

I do NOT truck with ideas of 2% account risk per trade. Such conventional wisdom will NEVER make a person rich. I also do NOT entertain stop losses; and hedge my trades at -11 pips underwater. So obviously I am not American.

But who else here trades large lots?
dancing phill you take the winning prize nearly as good as jacko mate lol
student
  • #1,064
  • Dec 9, 2014 1:40am Dec 9, 2014 1:40am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} I'm sorry to see your reaction about this. To be honest with everybody here, I am the one he is talking about here (I think!). You contacted a professional MT4 programmer and you are expecting to get the service for free. It isn't like if I take the initiative to code something for a thread. I did this freely plenty of times since 2007. Please accept my apologize if there was a misunderstanding. PS: if needed, feel free to post here the exact PMs we exchanged ... so others will see that we didn't agree on anything. I just requested you to...
Miscommunication aside, I don't believe the service you offer should come under the same banner as a scammer in the same way as is identified in this thread.

If you code upon request, then you are within rights to charge for your time. That's not a problem, provided this it's clear from the outset.
I don't think the issue raised by #Obi qualifies to post it in this thread. That's a misunderstanding between two parties regarding a professional service.
To my knowledge, you are not selling systems designed by you as the others mentioned have?
I believe that is the focus of this thread. Forgive me if others disagree, just my opinion.

If being really pedantic, I guess FF could have some kind of section for coders to offer their services, which could carry some sort of satisfaction rating from customers helping other potential clients to assess if you deliver what's requested?
Otherwise, i don't see how there is any scam here.
Wealth comes from what you keep, not what you earn
  • #1,065
  • Dec 9, 2014 2:14am Dec 9, 2014 2:14am
Quoting trader34
If you code upon request, then you are within rights to charge for your time. That's not a problem, provided this it's clear from the outset. I don't think the issue raised by #Obi qualifies to post it in this thread. That's a misunderstanding between two parties regarding a professional service.
That was my point. It is definitively a misunderstanding.

Thank you for your support!
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  • #1,066
  • Dec 9, 2014 3:58am Dec 9, 2014 3:58am
omg DB put his explorer back on lol, that was the better one of the two,
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,067
  • Dec 9, 2014 3:58am Dec 9, 2014 3:58am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} That was my point. It is definitively a misunderstanding. Thank you for your support!
and my support, (ex trader)
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #1,068
  • Dec 9, 2014 4:32am Dec 9, 2014 4:32am
Quoting billytt
{quote} and my support, (ex trader)
Thank you.
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  • #1,069
  • Dec 9, 2014 5:47am Dec 9, 2014 5:47am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} That was my point. It is definitively a misunderstanding. Thank you for your support!
For sure
  • #1,070
  • Dec 9, 2014 5:49am Dec 9, 2014 5:49am
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
{quote} For sure
Would add that ferru did some paid work for me. Very professional and delivered on time.
  • #1,071
  • Dec 9, 2014 6:36am Dec 9, 2014 6:36am
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
{quote} For sure
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  • #1,072
  • Dec 9, 2014 6:37am Dec 9, 2014 6:37am
Quoting claudia1
{quote} Would add that ferru did some paid work for me. Very professional and delivered on time.
Thank you Claudia!
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  • #1,073
  • Dec 9, 2014 5:04pm Dec 9, 2014 5:04pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} That was my point. It is definitively a misunderstanding. Thank you for your support!
Ferru,
I like and respect you but I don't think you should sell anything through this forum without being a Commercial member.
If someone PMs you and asks you to make an indicator, you should either do it free of charge or refuse to do it, at all. You shouldn't try to sell your services unless you are Commercial.
Go Commercial and sell all you want. You do excellent work and will probably do well with it.
  • #1,074
  • Dec 9, 2014 5:50pm Dec 9, 2014 5:50pm
Quoting billbss
{quote} Ferru, I like and respect you but I don't think you should sell anything through this forum without being a Commercial member. If someone PMs you and asks you to make an indicator, you should either do it free of charge or refuse to do it, at all. You shouldn't try to sell your services unless you are Commercial. Go Commercial and sell all you want. You do excellent work and will probably do well with it.
I NEVER sold anything here even through PM. When somebody PM me a request, I ALWAYS ask to send the request to my email for study.
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  • #1,075
  • Dec 9, 2014 5:58pm Dec 9, 2014 5:58pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} I NEVER sold anything here even through PM. When somebody PM me a request, I ALWAYS ask to send the request to my email for study.
Somebody PMs you a request. You tell them to email you, then you try to sell it to them?
  • #1,076
  • Dec 9, 2014 6:27pm Dec 9, 2014 6:27pm
Quoting billbss
{quote} Somebody PMs you a request. You tell them to email you, then you try to sell it to them?
If they request something to be coded, I will study their project through email only. I am not talking about money on FF even through PM. I never study a coding request through PM ... If they don't send me an email, the discussion doesn't go further by explaining that I am not doing business on FF.
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  • #1,077
  • Dec 9, 2014 6:32pm Dec 9, 2014 6:32pm
What Ferru Fx says is he does not solicit customers here on FF ..... if someone sends him a request he takes it out of here....
Do I understand right FerruFX?

4x
  • #1,078
  • Dec 9, 2014 6:39pm Dec 9, 2014 6:39pm
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
What Ferru Fx says is he does not solicit customers here on FF ..... if someone sends him a request he takes it out of here.... Do I understand right FerruFX? 4x
You're perfectly right.
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  • #1,079
  • Dec 9, 2014 10:41pm Dec 9, 2014 10:41pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} That was my point. It is definitively a misunderstanding. Thank you for your support!
My strong support as well
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
  • #1,080
  • Dec 9, 2014 10:46pm Dec 9, 2014 10:46pm
Quoting albchr
{quote} My strong support as well
Thank you ... Very much appreciated
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