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  • #13,161
  • Dec 6, 2014 7:44am Dec 6, 2014 7:44am
Quoting Robertk
{quote} Yes true. On a sidenote i have checked some of the posts of a few membership revoked users. I am beginning to think this is the work of a mad admin. The one thing some of them had in common was the defensive language @ one of the admins, just refer to Baillie's posts for example. No offense to Baillie but 90% of his content consisted of being defensive towards an admin by use of explicit violent language. Just check for yourself and see if you can find any golden nugget for that matter. I know that Baillie and Ullen got a temp ban earlier...
such things (or similar things) of some friends of mine in FF were said more than a year ago. that is why I (and my dearest persons) have a critical view on publishing anything at FF.

as to you conclusions upon a mad admin, we need a linguistic expertise to be performed out.

Best,
D.P.
Hunting High and Low
  • #13,162
  • Dec 6, 2014 8:38am Dec 6, 2014 8:38am
Quoting kprsa
Hi all, here is the version of the Recurrence Statistic that is lighter on the processor (the big calculation is done once every bar now, even this is an overkill). I have left the labels the same for continuity, even though the label of k is imprecise. Several minor bugs have been fixed. I guess it is best if somebody else gives a version with alerts if required, best not to complicate the basic version too much. I add a pdf that covers the basic usage of the indicator. Happy trading, k {file} {file} {image} Edit: error in text corrected, thanks...
Hi kprsa,
First of all I would like to thank you for sharing your indicator here! http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/php...ilies/good.gif

For a few days, I worked a lot with your RecurrenceStatistic V4.2 indicator I found on SHF forum (http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=104307#p104307). Now trying to understand your algorithm I applied a minor modification and got some weird results. I simply added two new buffers to display the upper and lower border of a transient or fractal zone your algorithm identified on a certain center bar. I did not touch your core logic at all, just try to display what according to my interpretation are the upper and lower border of the zones in focus.

My modifications in short:
- removed unused buffer Mean[]
- added buffers upperBorder[], lowerBorder[]
- added variable tzDisplay

Upper and lower fractal zones seem to be allright.
When display mode is switched to one of the transient zones' borders things become a bit more complicated. Some seem allright, some do not. See attached pic to show two examples:
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: RecurrenceStatisticV4_2_sx.png Size: 334 KB


This behaviour may have one of two reasons, IMO: I misinterpreted your use of the variables, or there's something wrong in the part of your algorithm that identifies the TZ bars. To be honest: I did not understand this part of your algorithm fully.

I attach my modified code to this post, so you might have a look at it if you like to. When looking for my modifications inside the code just search for comments containing simplex (my username at SHF forum).

Cheers, duplex

EDIT: hmmm - it shows my uploaded pic inline in the preview, but obviously not in the final post. Weird behaviour again!
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 RecurrenceStatisticV4_2_sx.mq4   15 KB | 642 downloads
  • #13,163
  • Dec 6, 2014 10:48am Dec 6, 2014 10:48am
Quoting duplex
{quote} Hi kprsa, First of all I would like to thank you for sharing your indicator here! {image} For a few days, I worked a lot with your RecurrenceStatistic V4.2 indicator I found on SHF forum (http://www.stevehopwoodforex.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=104307#p104307). Now trying to understand your algorithm I applied a minor modification and got some weird results. I simply added two new buffers to display the upper and lower border of a transient or fractal zone your algorithm identified on a certain center bar. I did not touch your...
hi, i think you have an option of several indicators (freefox, sciurus, xixi) to graphically display the tzs.
in my opinion the one by xixi is probably the best, simply because you get the source code for it.
the main goal of the rs indicator is the statistics of the tzs, not the graphical display so i will not help you with this.

k
  • #13,164
  • Dec 6, 2014 11:34am Dec 6, 2014 11:34am
Quoting GU-Night
I think the question is: why are all the memberships from the thread starters with a link to TZ or sub-sequence revoked? Eurusdd – Similarity thread Pirate Pip - Buried treasure Kiads - MTH thread Saver0 - Adventure in TZ trading MAM trader - My best trade is next trade! It would be very naïve from me to think that this is just coincidence. Every blind man can see that this is destroying from places where these concepts are discussed. Many people know that there is good information in these threads, so if forexfactory was fair, they don’t placed...
Afraid of TRZ ? Hm ... FF is not objective but subjective
Good friends are more valuable than gold ...
  • #13,165
  • Dec 6, 2014 12:01pm Dec 6, 2014 12:01pm
Quoting pedma
{quote} Afraid of TRZ ? Hm ... FF is not objective but subjective

I think there is a misunderstanding. I’m totally done with forexfactory. They are not only subjective, their purpose seems to be to keep people stupid.
At the moment threads become interesting they go in the recycle bin, and their thread starter got banned.
  • #13,166
  • Dec 6, 2014 12:06pm Dec 6, 2014 12:06pm
Quoting kprsa
{quote}the main goal of the rs indicator is the statistics of the tzs, not the graphical display so i will not help you with this. k
Hi kprsa,
Thank you for your fast reply! My point was not to ask you for help in coding a new indicator that displays TZ - I already have that.

But I'm afraid - if I did not misinterpret your algorithm - that the statistics displayed just depend on some transient zones that are not being identified correctly. IMO, the fractal zones are all correct. The only reason I added my two buffers to your code was to visualize that without having to deal with those graphical objects.

Regards, duplex
  • #13,167
  • Dec 6, 2014 12:18pm Dec 6, 2014 12:18pm
Quoting Dr.Phoenix
{quote}But the question is that why are multiple accounts found at the same IP?
Sharing the same internet access point in a company? Using the same proxy server for whatever reason? Maybe not very probable, but nonetheless possible.

Regards, duplex
  • #13,168
  • Dec 6, 2014 1:11pm Dec 6, 2014 1:11pm
Quoting duplex
{quote} Sharing the same internet access point in a company? Using the same proxy server for whatever reason? Maybe not very probable, but nonetheless possible. Regards, duplex


the accusation, that somebody is using multiple usernames, is not only based on the same IP address


there are practises available to identify someone due to more information our computers give away without that most of us will notice it ever.........

For example, Google is very good at it.....


Our computers are most of the time as good as a fingerprint
  • #13,169
  • Dec 6, 2014 1:23pm Dec 6, 2014 1:23pm
Quoting duplex
{quote} Sharing the same internet access point in a company? Using the same proxy server for whatever reason? Maybe not very probable, but nonetheless possible. Regards, duplex

read this

http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/06/17/the-web-cookie-is-dying-heres-the-creepier-technology-that-comes-next/
  • #13,170
  • Dec 6, 2014 1:44pm Dec 6, 2014 1:44pm
Quoting duplex
{quote}But I'm afraid - if I did not misinterpret your algorithm - that the statistics displayed just depend on some transient zones that are not being identified correctly.
Hi, you are right, thank you. There was indeed a bug in the stats of the mid-bar zones.

What was (quite stupidly) incorrect in my code was the condition for the cleared mid-bar TZ being resolved involving High[i]/Low[i] instead of Close[i]. There are still minor issues left that I am aware of and will perhaps get back to them once in an appropriate mood.

Anyway, since this changes the stats for the mid-bar TZs to an extent, I will call this update Version 4_3. The pdf from the 4.2 version is still valid.

Voila,
k

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File Type: mq4 RecurrenceStatisticV4_3.mq4   14 KB | 1,201 downloads
  • #13,171
  • Dec 6, 2014 1:51pm Dec 6, 2014 1:51pm
Quoting duplex
{quote} The only reason I added my two buffers to your code was to visualize that without having to deal with those graphical objects. Regards, duplex
I am not sure but I think your buffers will still fail in the (rare) case when there is, say an upwards transient bar i with a Close[i] above the previous maximum, but the maximum of the next candles is lower than the Close[i]. I guess these pathological cases are to an extent arbitrary to deal with.

Cheers,
k
  • #13,172
  • Dec 6, 2014 2:29pm Dec 6, 2014 2:29pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} the accusation, that somebody is using multiple usernames, is not only based on the same IP address there are practises available to identify someone due to more information our computers give away without that most of us will notice it ever......... For example, Google is very good at it..... Our computers are most of the time as good as a fingerprint
Tell me why reasons for banning are not disclosed, except for rumours and conspiracy theories. There's membership revoked, but for what? Same people appear in other forums, carrying on their work, but how can one determine objectively what it's all about? Whose interest it serves to keep waters muddy as fuck?
  • #13,173
  • Dec 6, 2014 4:40pm Dec 6, 2014 4:40pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} read this http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamtanner/2013/06/17/the-web-cookie-is-dying-heres-the-creepier-technology-that-comes-next/
Interesting - thanks a lot!
  • #13,174
  • Dec 6, 2014 4:54pm Dec 6, 2014 4:54pm
Quoting candero
{quote} Tell me why reasons for banning are not disclosed, except for rumours and conspiracy theories. There's membership revoked, but for what? Same people appear in other forums, carrying on their work, but how can one determine objectively what it's all about? Whose interest it serves to keep waters muddy as fuck?


maybe FF-admin is investigating a whole ring of suspects and keeps the mouth shut for now, which would be very wise for them

you do not wantto disturb investigations by publishing some info
  • #13,175
  • Dec 6, 2014 4:56pm Dec 6, 2014 4:56pm
Quoting duplex
{quote} Interesting - thanks a lot!

you are welcome
  • #13,176
  • Dec 6, 2014 5:03pm Dec 6, 2014 5:03pm
Quoting kprsa
{quote} Hi, you are right, thank you. There was indeed a bug in the stats of the mid-bar zones. Anyway, since this changes the stats for the mid-bar TZs to an extent, I will call this update Version 4_3.
Great - thanks for correcting it. Looks much better now. Number of transient bars decreased, and their individual width now displays correctly.

Regards, duplex
  • #13,177
  • Dec 6, 2014 5:03pm Dec 6, 2014 5:03pm
Quoting duplex
{quote} Interesting - thanks a lot!

I also told some people here weeks ago, that the TOR may not as safe as most believe. At the time being, I was ridiculed for that as not knowing what I am talking about


to get a first idea of the matter, read this:

http://www.cnet.com/news/nsa-tracks-google-ads-to-find-tor-users/
  • #13,178
  • Dec 6, 2014 5:09pm Dec 6, 2014 5:09pm
Quoting kprsa
{quote} I am not sure but I think your buffers will still fail in the (rare) case when there is, say an upwards transient bar i with a Close[i] above the previous maximum, but the maximum of the next candles is lower than the Close[i]. I guess these pathological cases are to an extent arbitrary to deal with. Cheers, k
Well - I don't plan to use those buffers other than to visualize the basis of your statistics. IMO if my buffers fail in 'pathological cases' so will the stats in those cases - right?

Still I am sure your stats is the best currently available for TZ / FZ analysis.

Regards, duplex
  • #13,179
  • Dec 6, 2014 5:12pm Dec 6, 2014 5:12pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} I also told some people here weeks ago, that the TOR may not as safe as most believe.
I'm absolutely sure you're right!

Quoting infinitus
{quote}read this: http://www.cnet.com/news/nsa-tracks-google-ads-to-find-tor-users/
I never doubted the NSA is tracking privacy networks and tools.
  • #13,180
  • Dec 6, 2014 5:27pm Dec 6, 2014 5:27pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} maybe FF-admin is investigating a whole ring of suspects and keeps the mouth shut for now, which would be very wise for them you do not wantto disturb investigations by publishing some info
The only suspects are: you, Maximinus and FF-admin.


Where the waters are muddy is something to hide. ~ Einstein

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