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  • #901
  • Dec 5, 2014 9:26am Dec 5, 2014 9:26am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Maybe prooves coming soon...who knows....up to Eitan and Vigovsky. But i already know the vipers here will find other excuse to bash anyway, i can bet on it. Well they want the WWIII here they unsleeped the right dog
Of course we will , especially if its a Grid system
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  • #902
  • Edited 9:42am Dec 5, 2014 9:28am | Edited 9:42am
etan and vigovsky is banned!
read here about etan's case but i don't know what vigovsky done, vigovsky has refund policy ( see here- http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...09#post7912009 ).
i also support that every commercial member should have a live trading explorer, without TE no body will be allowed for sell something.
i request the moderator please un banned atleast vigovsky (because there is no any customer complain against him and etan needs to payback his unsatisfied customers) with condition that without track record he can't sell anything.
my english is very bad, so i can't express myself clearly, sorry for that.
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  • #903
  • Dec 5, 2014 9:34am Dec 5, 2014 9:34am
Quoting Nihilist
etan and vigovsky is finaly banned! read here about etan's case but i don't know what vigovsky done, vigovsky has refund policy ( see here- http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...09#post7912009 ). i also support that every commercial member should have a live trading explorer, without TE no body will be allowed for sell something. i request the moderator please un banned atleast vigovsky (because there is no any customer complain against him and etan needs to payback his unsatisfied customers) with condition that without track...
AGREED.....PROVE a positive expectancy or DON'T SELL....PERIOD....too many sharks and marketing gurus out there already
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  • #904
  • Dec 5, 2014 9:38am Dec 5, 2014 9:38am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Maybe prooves coming soon...who knows....up to Eitan and Vigovsky. But i already know the vipers here will find other excuse to bash anyway, i can bet on it. Well if they want the WWIII here they unsleeped the right dog
You my friend are delusional!! You cannot prove something like trading AFTER the fact...either you have PROOF as you go along, or you dont have it. Keep drinking the Kool Aid....By the way, how much money have you made from this system in a REAL MONEY account ?
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  • #905
  • Dec 5, 2014 9:50am Dec 5, 2014 9:50am
Issue here is not about refunding or not. There is much broader problem.
What is happening is people like Eitan and others ... are first creating free system in trading system zone of FF. where new member of FF , after they first join , usually looks for trading system. Because their expectations are to learn trading from others. And we all have been go through that phase. There is nothing wrong in it.

But some scammers see it as opportunity to create follower base where they can instill delusional belief about him self and trading. After the followers are created like cult...they are herded to private chat groups and are slaughtered for masters evil gains.

If person directly goes to commercial and advertise systems there are no need for tough measures ...because intentions are clear from beginning , which is to sell product. Its up to buyers to do his due diligence to check product.

But IMHO , FF mods must be tough on people whose intentions are to create followers by being Nice and helpful and then sell products.
Either any trading system OP going commercial gets direct ban or have to provide full proof that what is being sold is as described.
  • #906
  • Dec 5, 2014 9:54am Dec 5, 2014 9:54am
Quoting Daimari
{quote} Of course we will , especially if its a Grid system
You really don't know what are you talking about...but you continue you trolling & badmouthing. Please as already said previously keep studying and MAYBE just trade on demo... while adults do the "adults trading things", ok?
Don't you realize you are just making dumb figures also in the other thread? (the lonely reply of Dxanatos should have shut up your mind totally, but of course in your "student" way, you have to still to "study" where is the case to be shut up )
  • #907
  • Dec 5, 2014 9:57am Dec 5, 2014 9:57am
Quoting swingtrade65
{quote} AGREED.....PROVE a positive expectancy or DON'T SELL....PERIOD....too many sharks and marketing gurus out there already
You agreed also the unban part, or just the part that fit your idea of justice? A.k.a. GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNCENT?

$4xPipaholic, my friend...i suggest you to change to name of the thread with the above...really now is that, sorry
  • #908
  • Dec 5, 2014 10:00am Dec 5, 2014 10:00am
Quoting swingtrade65
{quote} You my friend are delusional!! You cannot prove something like trading AFTER the fact...either you have PROOF as you go along, or you dont have it. Keep drinking the Kool Aid....By the way, how much money have you made from this system in a REAL MONEY account ?

Maybe i am delusional but you made too much siesta maybe....open your eyes and you will see that in the other thread there is a TE now.
Of course this won't prevent witch hunter to find way to rumble and shouting scam anyway, but at least the brain connected ones (also you hopefully) now have something to see to stop these witch hunt here.
  • #909
  • Dec 5, 2014 10:01am Dec 5, 2014 10:01am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} You agreed also the unban part, or just the part that fit your idea of justice? A.k.a. GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNCENT? $4xPipaholic, my friend...i suggest you to change to name of the thread with the above...really now is that, sorry
Are you not capable of reading English? Show proof that the system has a positive expectancy with live funds and I will retract EVERYTHING I have said.
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???
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  • #910
  • Dec 5, 2014 10:02am Dec 5, 2014 10:02am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Maybe i am delusional but you made too much siesta maybe....open your eyes and you will see that in the other thread there is a TE now. Of course this won't prevent witch hunter to find way to rumble and shouting scam anyway, but at least the brain connected ones (also you hopefully) now have something to see to stop these witch hunt here.
I saw the TE in other thread....Once again...NOT impressed....a couple of days worth of trades...GET REAL...seriously dude get off the Kool Aid
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  • #911
  • Dec 5, 2014 10:02am Dec 5, 2014 10:02am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} You really don't know what are you talking about...but you continue you trolling & badmouthing. Please as already said previously keep studying and MAYBE just trade on demo... while adults do the "adults trading things", ok? Don't you realize you are just making dumb figures also in the other thread? (the lonely reply of Dxanatos should have shut up your mind totally, but of course in your "student" way, you have to still to "study" where is the case to be shut up )
Cariddi - can you answer my previous q - it should be very easy to shut us all up if you can prove how much you make with Eitans system

Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Can I ask how much Eitans system cost and how much you make from it? Be easy to settle this dispute if you could prove how good he is.
  • #912
  • Dec 5, 2014 10:09am Dec 5, 2014 10:09am
Quoting ronaleo10
Issue here is not about refunding or not. There is much broader problem. What is happening is people like Eitan and others ... are first creating free system in trading system zone of FF. where new member of FF , after they first join , usually looks for trading system. Because their expectations are to learn trading from others. And we all have been go through that phase. There is nothing wrong in it. But some scammers see it as opportunity to create follower base where they can instill delusional belief about him self and trading. After the followers...
They all started by saying that they are not here to sell "Never". and then they sell. There is little anybody can do.

People are desperate to improve their lives, thats why they want to believe and get scammed. We live in such a sad world.
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  • #913
  • Dec 5, 2014 10:10am Dec 5, 2014 10:10am
Please note that 'temporarily suspended by senior member' and 'membership revoked' are two absolutely different things.
First means that a senior member of FF (single person) has suspended another member for some rule violation or rude talk. In such case, the membership will mostly be restored after some days when the wrong posts have been extracted and the person has been warned.
Second means that FF administration has enough evidence to kick a person out. And in this case it is final.
  • #914
  • Dec 5, 2014 10:21am Dec 5, 2014 10:21am
Quoting swingtrade65
{quote} I saw the TE in other thread....Once again...NOT impressed....a couple of days worth of trades...GET REAL...seriously dude get off the Kool Aid
We can go ahead for month this way...and even a 10years audited account, you would have to tell something about it too (in a negative faschion of course) Keep you ideas about scammers here and there and about your trading results are super. I will keep my (pretty inverse) ideas,ok?
  • #915
  • Dec 5, 2014 10:24am Dec 5, 2014 10:24am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} We can go ahead for month this way...and even a 10years audited account, you would have to tell something about it too (in a negative faschion of course) Keep you ideas about scammers here and there and about your trading results are super. I will keep my (pretty inverse) ideas,ok?
AGAIN...how many times have people asked you this today alone....PLEASE PROVIDE PROOF THAT YOU MADE MONEY!!!!! Otherwise, we wont listen to you at all because it is mere speculation versus actual real spendable dollars .

Many pips

Ciao
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  • #916
  • Dec 5, 2014 10:25am Dec 5, 2014 10:25am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} We can go ahead for month this way...and even a 10years audited account, you would have to tell something about it too (in a negative faschion of course) Keep you ideas about scammers here and there and about your trading results are super. I will keep my (pretty inverse) ideas,ok?
Lets check back in 1 week, then a month...
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  • #917
  • Dec 5, 2014 11:11am Dec 5, 2014 11:11am
Quoting Daimari
{quote} Lets check back in 1 week, then a month...
Hey naysaysers crowd. Eitan gave me permission to publish this statement (one of the account he manages).
The money is not the problem...he don't care a fu** of harvesting more money for his system by users...he just wanna some respect and correct information.
Also some wanna math proves so...here it is.
I know now all kind of speculation will have a re-boost, but hey maybe the more openminded among you will understand the truth.
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  • #918
  • Dec 5, 2014 11:20am Dec 5, 2014 11:20am
can members post in the name of Banned members?
"Managed Account"

selling a product is one thing
collecting funds to manage is another thing

Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Hey naysaysers crowd. Eitan gave me permission to publish this statement (one of the account he manages). The money is not the problem...he don't care a fu** of harvesting more money for his system by users...he just wanna some respect and correct information. Also some wanna math proves so...here it is. I know now all kind of speculation will have a re-boost, but hey maybe the more openminded among you will understand the truth. {image}
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  • #919
  • Dec 5, 2014 11:23am Dec 5, 2014 11:23am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Hey naysaysers crowd. Eitan gave me permission to publish this statement (one of the account he manages). The money is not the problem...he don't care a fu** of harvesting more money for his system by users...he just wanna some respect and correct information. Also some wanna math proves so...here it is. I know now all kind of speculation will have a re-boost, but hey maybe the more openminded among you will understand the truth. {image}
Sorry Cariddi - you'll have to do better than that - that could be anybodies statement
  • #920
  • Dec 5, 2014 11:25am Dec 5, 2014 11:25am
I see this senior here frequent, planning to switch Commercial...!?
Quoting Ken A
Ah screen capture ...... Here's one ...... {image}
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