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  • #861
  • Dec 5, 2014 6:22am Dec 5, 2014 6:22am
Quoting ronaleo10
{quote} Haha....so in your civilized country ...people like you and your guru can behave like dictator and cut them off who try to question his ideology. People who try to against you guys are taken care of while deluded followers are hypnotized by his fake tactics. Eitan uses almost 100% word to dupe rookies...as they dont know that , system can have hit rate almost 100 percent but still it could be losing system and system almost always lose but still be winning system. I simply asked him yesterday to provide him answer of hit rate and risk reward or system. Yet he refused to answer in public forum.

BTW , as your guru cant put TE , he must be preparing for weekly audit for tomorrow.
Can you ask him , which version of adobe photoshop he use
First bolded: no dictators. But again we live in places where you are innocent until proven guilty, while here it seems really the contrary...the first negative comment about a person = he is a scammer. Wake up guys, internet is not a free for all place where everybody can say anything about anybody, protected by an anynimous media. Try doing slanderous affirmations against anyone in the real world (paper, tv, radio, books., magazines..) that can permit to fight legally...you will see how much time it passes before you are get in court for defamation of the character.

Second bolded: no, but i can ask him, why he don't care to reply to your "clever" debate.... opss...really i have uinderstood it by my own
  • #862
  • Dec 5, 2014 6:22am Dec 5, 2014 6:22am
These 'great people' have been under watch and investigation for long time already. Nobody gets disqualified without very proper proof.
  • #863
  • Dec 5, 2014 6:27am Dec 5, 2014 6:27am
Quoting Daimari
{quote} Dont waste you time with this guy. He either work for Eitan or he is ignorant past reasoning. Arguing with him will get you nowhere. They will always drive the conversation to something else no matter what you say
I agree with the bolded...if being "ignorant past reasoning" means do not fall to your level. Or were you talking to the mirror..in this case sorry i misunderstood..
  • #864
  • Dec 5, 2014 6:28am Dec 5, 2014 6:28am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Well.. damage done (always the "crowd" do this... together with the shou shout shout of course). IF MODERATORS READ ME. YOU HAVE REVOKED MEMBERSHIP to 2 GREAT PEOPLE based on false accusations (Eitan1010 and Vigovsky). Please correct this crap..you can suspend them for indagate better if you really care the GOOD of FF, but membership revoked really not fair. I remember that once even the great caring soul Nihilist was suspended wrongly, so i hope this situation will be corrected soon (if is possible to "correct" a REVOKED membership...i...
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  • #865
  • Dec 5, 2014 6:48am Dec 5, 2014 6:48am
Quoting Indrek
{quote} If to speak about Eitan then it is obvious (at least for seasoned traders) that none of his systems ever worked. I was following the SMRI thread for long time because I wanted to see if it finally turns into scam or not. There was never a winning system in the thread, just a bunch of indicators, and as soon as someone had a loss, Eitan and his partners added some new indicator or rule. First charts that Eitan posted in his new, commercial thread, included similar charts with similar indicators, big part of which were from Nihilist...
Sorry to say: you are not dumb as many others in this thread, but you are a cynic dietrologist person.. this is for sure. And you (also like trader34) are a bit used to twist the reality for your own thesis.
Let me tell you something; first bolded: demonstrate you cynic dietrologistic attitude, ok...already said previuolsy.
Second bolded: it is called "trying to improve a thing" all the world do it. But maybe you expect from Eitan a perfect Holy grail system since inception...maybe you have mor exteem of Eitan that the one you demonstrate in this thread, who knows...
Third bolded: again speculation about what YOU DON'T KNOW at all. But you take theliberty to attack people based upon things you don't ever know...not very clever. But for defending your thesis can be done a little twist of reality , right? WHOEVER USES THE MRM SYSTEM AND USED some of the SMRI in the past (and also maybe know the Nihilist thread) KNOW THAT THIS SYSTEM DO NOT USE ANY OF THE NIHILIST INDI.
I also posted this in the MRM thread, cause I KNOW IT FOR SURE BEING AN USER of the system....the others that say others things..well, or they like void bla bla, or, as said they have their "agenda" to defend.

Red bolded: very heavy accusation...of course here you can tell everthing you want, cause it's the free internet, where people are... GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT, right?
I simply defend good people, friends and in the end JUSTICE that in this thread seems a bit twisted by all the crowd that shout shout shout..... crowd that like i told you in the third bolded, often really speculate with mind and words about things they don't really have a clue about.
If moderators wanna revoke my membership too, i am ready. I have done nothing wrong (if defending honest person isn't wrong...maybe it is here who knows...) and will be just another innocent victim of this witch hunt started with this thread

Sorry to say 4xpipaholic...but as we discussed in the past, this thread in spite of good intentions have and will do more damages to honest folks than the scammers that will REALLY catch. Of course if you drop bombs on a crowd you will kill some thief, assassin, etc.. (they are among us) but what is the price to pay? Killing many many more innocent people. Really not my way.

P.S. last. Purple bolded. So you suggest to revoke membership to Nihilist too, right? Why not even ForexAlien? Don't you realize how you dietrology just put fog before your eyes and among your neurons? I attack you so (as you said)? No, simply see the reality you dietrologic thinking is not able to discern.
  • #866
  • Dec 5, 2014 6:56am Dec 5, 2014 6:56am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Sorry to say: you are not dumb as many others in this thread, but you are a cynic dietrologist person.. this is for sure. And you (also like trader34) are a bit used to twist the reality for your own thesis. Let me tell you something; first bolded: demonstrate you cynic dietrologistic attitude, ok...already said previuolsy. Second bolded: it is called "trying to improve a thing" all the world do it. But maybe you expect from Eitan a perfect Holy grail system since inception...maybe you have mor exteem of Eitan that the one you demonstrate...
What does dietrology mean please it's a new one to me. Must say did have a fall out with Forexalien.
  • #867
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:00am Dec 5, 2014 7:00am
Quoting ArchangelG
{quote} Very well said Indrek! I totally agree with every word you said! There is definitely a conspiracy going on here and this is absolutely shameful to say the least! There's a universal law that states: What you sow, is what you reap! I assure all of you, that these vipers will reap what they have sown! Nothing will be able to protect them from the wrath that is coming their way... and they brought this upon themselves because of their greed! God have mercy on their pathetic souls!
ArchangelG, really no words. The conspiracy folks, is just IN YOUR (poor) MINDS. But i agree with one thing you said "What you sow, is what you reap!"... maybe all the shouting crowd here deserve this.... free shout for everybody, some witches burned (innocent , but who care...) ,see one or two football match in two with a beer (or baseball, or whatever) and all are happy,right.
Well.... Panis et Circencis ever worked since the age of Romans (and much much before too) .....
  • #868
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:09am Dec 5, 2014 7:09am
Quoting deltaone
eitans membership revoked. cariddi must be totally shocked students are getting paralyzed some people are natural born clients
Students still trading with Eitan with them (me too...today no job hours..so that's also why i am wasting my time replying to all the craps here )
Cariddi shocked ..but not so much, hoping mods, will understand soon their mistake...and not to follow the blind shouting crowd so easily next time...
Bolded: some others (not addressed to you personally) are natural born professional naysayers. ..what is the worst? Who knows...
  • #869
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:13am Dec 5, 2014 7:13am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Sorry to say: you are not dumb as many others in this thread, but you are a cynic dietrologist person.. this is for sure. And you (also like trader34) are a bit used to twist the reality for your own thesis. Let me tell you something; first bolded: demonstrate you cynic dietrologistic attitude, ok...already said previuolsy. Second bolded: it is called "trying to improve a thing" all the world do it. But maybe you expect from Eitan a perfect Holy grail system since inception...maybe you have mor exteem of Eitan that the one you demonstrate...
As I have followed your activities in different threads, I will not argue with you. Write what you want until suspended.
No membership has been revoked without solid evidence, that is clear to me.
  • #870
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:13am Dec 5, 2014 7:13am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Sorry to say: you are not dumb as many others in this thread, but you are a cynic dietrologist person.. this is for sure. And you (also like trader34) are a bit used to twist the reality for your own thesis. Let me tell you something; first bolded: demonstrate you cynic dietrologistic attitude, ok...already said previuolsy. Second bolded: it is called "trying to improve a thing" all the world do it. But maybe you expect from Eitan a perfect Holy grail system since inception...maybe you have mor exteem of Eitan that the one you demonstrate...

No my misguided friend, you are wrong. There is no conspiracy theory here...just a simple request for facts. If you call me a naysayer for simply asking for some proof, then sure.....guilty! But i am not twisting anything. I, and others have asked for one simple thing...proof.

I previously stated I don't know whether Eitan qualified as a scam in the true sense, but he certainly was selling his method with no factual basis nor proof of success.
My suspicion is he was relying on the good will from people like yourself to get his system sold, and it worked. You bought it and don't use it...yet i guess.
How many other disciples do the same? What happens to anyone who asks for evidence, well....we saw that.

Vigovsky I didn't really follow, but as stated in my post to you earlier, he is selling nothing of value that i can see.

This is not a platform for people to sell their wares. Or at least, it shouldn't be.
And if commercial members are allowed to sell their...well, whatever..then 1st, they should not be allowed to use entire threads to do so. Go somewhere else.
But, if they are allowed to have threads...then some kind of evidence should be mandatory, that what they are offering has some use. Not just the goodwill and words of supporters...something tangible.
If not, then I'm glad to see the back of them in these free forums.

Always remember, they put themselves in this position. There was a very quick and simple way they could have avoided any unwanted scrutiny...with proof!!

Neither member you are so upset to see revoked has offered up such evidence. I totally agree with the actions of FF.
If either of them care to defend their position with proof, fantastic. So far not forthcoming though.
Wealth comes from what you keep, not what you earn
  • #871
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:14am Dec 5, 2014 7:14am
Wow, some members was revoked.
Anyway, non-farm employment change, was revoked too?
I was afraid of that.
  • #872
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:18am Dec 5, 2014 7:18am
Quoting claudia1
{quote} What does dietrology mean please it's a new one to me. Must say did have a fall out with Forexalien.
Sorry maybe i just translate it from the italian "dietrologia" on the fly and maybe the term does not exist in english....
...we can say...behindology, a.k.a. "the critical analysis of events, in an effort to detect, behind the apparent causes, true and hidden designs "
  • #873
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:18am Dec 5, 2014 7:18am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Students still trading with Eitan with them (me too...today no job hours..so that's also why i am wasting my time replying to all the craps here ) Cariddi shocked ..but not so much, hoping mods, will understand soon their mistake...and not to follow the blind shouting crowd so easily next time... Bolded: some others (not addressed to you personally) are natural born professional naysayers. ..what is the worst? Who knows...
Can I ask how much Eitans system cost and how much you make from it?
Be easy to settle this dispute if you could prove how good he is.
  • #874
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:19am Dec 5, 2014 7:19am
Quoting Tim_isoara
Wow, some members was revoked. Anyway, non-farm employment change, was revoked too? I was afraid of that.
Good one!
  • #875
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:19am Dec 5, 2014 7:19am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Sorry maybe i just translate it from the italian "dietrologia" on the fly and maybe the term does not exist in english.... ...we can say...behindology, a.k.a. "the critical analysis of events, in an effort to detect, behind the apparent causes, true and hidden designs "
Thanks understand.
  • #876
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:20am Dec 5, 2014 7:20am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} ArchangelG, really no words. The conspiracy folks, is just IN YOUR (poor) MINDS. But i agree with one thing you said "What you sow, is what you reap!"... maybe all the shouting crowd here deserve this.... free shout for everybody, some witches burned (innocent , but who care...) ,see one or two football match in two with a beer (or baseball, or whatever) and all are happy,right. Well.... Panis et Circencis ever worked since the age of Romans (and much much before too) .....

Also...you followers relished all the times you had other FF members suspended for speaking down your master....

It seems you are not so happy now the shoe is on the other foot?
No bread and circuses here. The OP of this thread had no agenda, and sought no power.
Is this the thread that brought down the gurus?!

How do you know it wasn't the complaints of unsatisfied customers?
Wealth comes from what you keep, not what you earn
  • #877
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:26am Dec 5, 2014 7:26am
Quoting trader34
{quote} No my misguided friend, you are wrong. There is no conspiracy theory here...just a simple request for facts. If you call me a naysayer for simply asking for some proof, then sure.....guilty! But i am not twisting anything. I, and others have asked for one simple thing...proof. I previously stated I don't know whether Eitan qualified as a scam in the true sense, but he certainly was selling his method with no factual basis nor proof of success. My suspicion is he was relying on the good will from people like yourself to get his system sold, and it worked. You bought it and don't use it...yet i guess. How many other disciples do the same? What happens to anyone who asks for evidence, well....we saw that. Vigovsky I didn't really follow, but as stated in my post to you earlier, he is selling nothing of value that i can see. This is not a platform for people to sell their wares. Or at least, it shouldn't be. And if commercial members are allowed to sell their...well, whatever..then 1st, they should not be allowed to use entire threads to do so. Go somewhere else. But, if they are allowed to have threads...then some kind of evidence should be mandatory, that what they are offering has some use. Not just the goodwill and words of supporters...something tangible. If not, then I'm glad to see the back of them in these free forums. Always remember, they put themselves in this position. There was a very quick and simple way they could have avoided any unwanted scrutiny...with proof!! Neither member you are so upset to see revoked has offered up such evidence. I totally agree with the actions of FF. If either of them care to defend their position with proof, fantastic. So far not forthcoming though.



I don't agree at all to that, instead. But i left the reply to your previous post after the NFP , cause it the long one (and again i will disagree on almost all your line).
Please be patient a bit after NFP
  • #878
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:28am Dec 5, 2014 7:28am
Quoting trader34
{quote} Also...you followers relished all the times you had other FF members suspended for speaking down your master.... It seems you are not so happy now the shoe is on the other foot? No bread and circuses here. The OP of this thread had no agenda, and sought no power. Is this the thread that brought down the gurus?! How do you know it wasn't the complaints of unsatisfied customers?
You are accumulating FALSE statements one after another...be patient and i will demolish everything in reply after NFP, ok?
  • #879
  • Dec 5, 2014 7:35am Dec 5, 2014 7:35am
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} You are accumulating FALSE statements one after another...be patient and i will demolish everything in reply after NFP, ok?
Ok
Wealth comes from what you keep, not what you earn
  • #880
  • Dec 5, 2014 8:10am Dec 5, 2014 8:10am
Quoting deltaone
eitans membership revoked. cariddi must be totally shocked students are getting paralyzed some people are natural born clients
He will turn the story around and appear as a martyr. Things will only get worse from now as his followers will see him as a victim..............................

OMG ! We could right a story about this
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