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  • #501
  • Nov 28, 2014 8:49pm Nov 28, 2014 8:49pm
Quoting DaddyBear
{quote} {image} I did not think that I would be here to deal with those people who are good in talking down others. S65 was the guy who started this mess. He came to my thread using dirty languages below: {quote} Do you actually believe this or do you just make this shit up as you go along ? Have you ever even heard of a correlation matrix..... Let alone looked at one .... Correlation between these pairs is 9% over the last 52 weeks.... Furthermore, they have been negatively correlated over the last 50 days at a rate of -70%...... Snake oil sales...
Take me off ignore for a couple of days and i pm you and tell where you going wrong in my eyes and it is so obvious. I traded for a major bank (db funny eh) and now retail. These posts are getting stupid wasting everyone's time. If interested in my thoughts just pop in my thread and tell me. Not knocking what you doing think it's a good idea but ...
  • #502
  • Nov 29, 2014 4:49am Nov 29, 2014 4:49am
Quoting DaddyBear
{quote} Show me how much you understand please. You have 35 subscribers and I have 135. Do you think my subscribers are all naive people like you?
I never wanted to have any subscribers and have done nothing to get them. This is absolutely irrelevant for my trading.
  • #503
  • Edited 6:55am Nov 29, 2014 6:45am | Edited 6:55am
Quoting DaddyBear
{quote} Show me how much you understand please. You have 35 subscribers and I have 135. Do you think my subscribers are all naive people like you?
If this is going to turn into a sausage measuring contest, mine is bigger than yours.
  • #504
  • Nov 29, 2014 6:56am Nov 29, 2014 6:56am
Quoting GDR3k
{quote} If this is going to turn into a sausage measuring contest, mine is bigger than yours.
You have to show it to him. Can you post a picture, at least.
  • #505
  • Edited 7:29am Nov 29, 2014 7:18am | Edited 7:29am
Quoting GDR3k
{quote} If this is going to turn into a sausage measuring contest, mine is bigger than yours.
Ok now we are talking !! Now this thread is getting serious, going somewhere.....
A completion where I can take part too

PROOF below
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  • #506
  • Nov 29, 2014 8:23am Nov 29, 2014 8:23am
Someone should open another thread "Hall of fame" where honnest commercial members would have the opportunity to prove they're honnest. Then we will be able to analyze their TE and make a statement about it. Once commercial member is approved OP's thread wrote his pseudo at the first page of the topic...

Since FF don't want to do anything we should take initiative.
  • #507
  • Nov 29, 2014 8:25am Nov 29, 2014 8:25am
At least clients would have the possibility to see which seller isn't a scammer. It doesn't mean they're going to make money but a 15 years expercienced hedge-fund manager couldn't garantuee too.
  • #508
  • Nov 29, 2014 8:29am Nov 29, 2014 8:29am
Quoting Unabletrader
Someone should open another thread "Hall of fame" where honnest commercial members would have the opportunity to prove they're honnest. Then we will be able to analyze their TE and make a statement about it. Once commercial member is approved OP's thread wrote his pseudo at the first page of the topic... Since FF don't want to do anything we should take initiative.
I have been thinking about the same thing for a week now cause this thread has a lot of negativity witch I really do not like, turn it around
and open a thread where traders prove there value witch is positive. But I am sure in the end we would have the same result cause others would step in
and try to prove the opposite.

4x
  • #509
  • Nov 29, 2014 8:41am Nov 29, 2014 8:41am
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
{quote} I have been thinking about the same thing for a week now cause this thread has a lot of negativity witch I really do not like, turn it around and open a thread where traders prove there value witch is positive. But I am sure in the end we would have the same result cause others would step in and try to prove the opposite. 4x

The probleme here is we suspect people to be scammers because they don't show any TE. If a commercial member is a professionnal and honest businessman he'll show sth AS SOON AS he want to sell sth.

Consequently, this thread could only deal with scammers because if you're not a scammer, you just shut your mouth and you show a proven track record.

On the other hand commercial members would show a proven track record wouldn't be attacked because numbers don't lie (less than words at least).
  • #510
  • Nov 29, 2014 8:50am Nov 29, 2014 8:50am
Quoting Unabletrader
{quote} The probleme here is we suspect people to be scammers because they don't show any TE. If a commercial member is a professionnal and honest businessman he'll show sth AS SOON AS he want to sell sth. Consequently, this thread could only deal with scammers because if you're not a scammer, you just shut your mouth and you show a proven track record. On the other hand commercial members would show a proven track record wouldn't be attacked because numbers don't lie (less than words at least).
Do you really believe that someone who is really good in trading would start selling trading systems? Or that someone who has a really good system would start selling it to other traders, i.e. competitors? Why would anybody do any of this?
  • #511
  • Nov 29, 2014 9:22am Nov 29, 2014 9:22am
Quoting Indrek
{quote} Do you really believe that someone who is really good in trading would start selling trading systems? Or that someone who has a really good system would start selling it to other traders, i.e. competitors? Why would anybody do any of this?

Do you really believe that anyone was born rich with a capital of 1 mio? Or do you believe that you can easily make +450% per month every month?

1) So you have to understand that some traders need to capitalize in order to make trading for a living or just to make more money because they want to.

2) Others traders aren't competitors de facto. Actually if you're the only one who is selling @ the market with your 0.0001 lots you'll be smashed by the others. This is not the point anyway. A good system could be use by both traders but it doesn't mean that they're going to take the exact same positions. Every trader has preferences: hours of the day, instruments, bearish/bullish bias, etc.

3) Why wouldn't you to have a regular and secure income?
  • #512
  • Nov 29, 2014 9:48am Nov 29, 2014 9:48am
Quoting GDR3k
{quote} If this is going to turn into a sausage measuring contest, mine is bigger than yours.
To be honest, I don't think you have any sausage at all not even a tiny bit.
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  • #513
  • Nov 29, 2014 9:49am Nov 29, 2014 9:49am
Quoting Indrek
{quote} You have to show it to him. Can you post a picture, at least.
Man, cannot agree more.
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  • #514
  • Nov 29, 2014 9:50am Nov 29, 2014 9:50am
Quoting DaddyBear
{quote} To be honest, I don't think you have any sausage at all not even a tiny bit.
Now we are back to a valuable (correct) topic
  • #515
  • Nov 29, 2014 9:56am Nov 29, 2014 9:56am
Quoting Indrek
{quote} Do you really believe that someone who is really good in trading would start selling trading systems? Or that someone who has a really good system would start selling it to other traders, i.e. competitors? Why would anybody do any of this?
Not sure why you think retail FX traders are competing with each other.
Retail traders are like African hyenas which steal the leftover from Lions and that what we are doing in the Forex Market.
Failing to understand this big picture and still think to keep some weapon for oneself is to be another failure.

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  • #516
  • Nov 29, 2014 9:56am Nov 29, 2014 9:56am
Quoting Indrek
{quote} You have to show it to him. Can you post a picture, at least.
Quoting DaddyBear
{quote} To be honest, I don't think you have any sausage at all not even a tiny bit.
https://i.imgur.com/QgJULh.jpg



  • #517
  • Nov 29, 2014 10:01am Nov 29, 2014 10:01am
Quoting Indrek
{quote} Do you really believe that someone who is really good in trading would start selling trading systems? Or that someone who has a really good system would start selling it to other traders, i.e. competitors? Why would anybody do any of this?
If you knew how to run a business, you wouldn't think so.
While sharing one's working system with fellow FX retail traders at a reasonable fee, the traders help others make pips and in turn they receive their fair shares of return from the FX community. This is a win-win scenario.

Don't treat other retail FX traders like your competitors because in terms of our tiny capitals and the vast trading volumes every day,
our impact is almost like zero.

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  • #518
  • Nov 29, 2014 10:03am Nov 29, 2014 10:03am
Quoting GDR3k
{quote} {quote} {image}
Now I know what you are doing for living...
An actress of XXX movies.....
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  • #519
  • Nov 29, 2014 10:09am Nov 29, 2014 10:09am
Quoting DaddyBear
{quote} If you know how to run a business, you wouldn't think so. While sharing one's working system with fellow FX retail traders at a reasonable fee, the traders help others to make pips and in turn they receive their share of return from the community. This is a win-win scenario. Don't see other retail FX traders like your competitors because in terms of our tiny capitals and the vast trading volumes every day, our impact is almost like zero. {image}
I know how to run a business but I prefer an honest one. Sharing knowledge with community is good but selling is not the same as sharing.
About competititon: A small retail trader cannot possibly beat big boys. As forex is a zero sum game, it is obvious that the money that a good small trader wins comes from the pockets of other small traders who lose their accounts.
  • #520
  • Nov 29, 2014 10:10am Nov 29, 2014 10:10am
Quoting Indrek
{quote} Do you really believe that someone who is really good in trading would start selling trading systems? Or that someone who has a really good system would start selling it to other traders, i.e. competitors? Why would anybody do any of this?
Based on your concept, Henry Ford should just make a few cars fort his family and let other people walk and walk until now.
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