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  • #441
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:33pm Nov 28, 2014 1:33pm
It's not abot giving excuses. It's my system.

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Show a real TE then let's talk.
  • #442
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:37pm Nov 28, 2014 1:37pm
my words are very clear.

I am not supporting DB or anyother Cmember

my words are again here
"every commercial member has to has a TE"

dont bend what I am saying or dont create wrong conclusions.

with TE even Demo I can see if trader trading Grid Martingale
I can see DD%
I can see expectacny

thats it.

Quoting claudia1
{quote} Come on you know better. I can set up a demo this afternoon with say 50 k in by march it will have 1m in. What does it mean it means nothing. I don't and wont sell anything here but if I did I would provide 3 years of live statements. You can open thousands of demo accounts eventually one will look wow. Can't do that with real money. Are you buying into his 'system'?
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  • #443
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:37pm Nov 28, 2014 1:37pm
Some people do set up TE with live accounts but then they hide account balance and other information.
What is the difference between these live accounts and demo accounts?

If you are still staying in a mindset that live is real and demo is not, you have a long way to go before reaching the front entrance of FX market.
By making 2 pips a day, you will need 500 trading days or about 2 years to make 1000 pips which I could make in one trading day.

You should study hard until your butts are off before posting those crazy messages here. So long!
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  • #444
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:39pm Nov 28, 2014 1:39pm
Quoting deltaone
{quote} hi claudia1, i agree with you, thatīs an argument. but there might be some reason NOT to start a trade explorer: IF one member did his homework and found out a working system and make it fully transparent to the public, it would be easy to copy this by any other person - without buying/paying fees for the hard work that individual did. you canīt have a copy right on a software which is using open market data (in my country. maybe itīs something different somewhere else). thatīs my reason NOT to have a trade explorer, maybe iīm wrong... all...
Hi I agree.

I got a thread down in commercial and have developed a number of ea's which given away to a number people which is great because I get testers from all over the world and hopefully they gain from it. I reiterate what I said above if i was to sell (and i have no intention at all as Twee knows) I would provide live statements.

Come on DB show me 3 years profitable live statements and Billy and i will subscribe. yes or no?
  • #445
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:45pm Nov 28, 2014 1:45pm
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If you are still stay in a mindset that live is real and demo is not, you have a long way to go before reaching the front entrance of FX market.
By making 2 pips a day, you will need 500 trading days or about 2 years to make 1000 pips which I could make in one trading day.

This guy is very crazy.

What does matter it's your strategy. I have 2-3 scalping opportunities per day with 5 pips for SL and 5 pips for TP. It's my system then I decide for my money managment. Do I want to have R (Risk) of 0.1%, 0.2%, 0.3%...5%? Anyway, I'm not going to go against my strategy because I'm not making a lot of pips.

If I want to make money I risk more : end of the story.

What's happening here is crazy.

A commercial-member ask a non-commercial member to show TE. This forum is fkin crazy.

I mean, even if I were the WORST trader in history, it wouldn't be an excuse for you to not show a TE. You're selling something then prove you can make money on FX market.

I wish my english was better to make me understand.
  • #446
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:48pm Nov 28, 2014 1:48pm
Quoting MAM.Trader
my words are very clear. I am not supporting DB or anyother Cmember my words are again here "every commercial member has to has a TE" dont bend what I am saying or dont create wrong conclusions. with TE even Demo I can see if trader trading Grid Martingale I can see DD% I can see expectacny thats it. {quote}
My words are very clear and concise and correct and you know it. You did support DB if you read your post.

I am a commercial member by the way. But not for much longer had enough of this nonsense some good people here but majority haven't got a clue what day it is and contradict themselves as you just did.

Good bye,

Sorry 4x but it needed saying.
  • #447
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:54pm Nov 28, 2014 1:54pm
you are total lost
I have no more words to say.

Quoting claudia1
{quote} My words are very clear and concise and correct and you know it. You did support DB if you read your post. I am a commercial member by the way. But not for much longer had enough of this nonsense some good people here but majority haven't got a clue what day it is and contradict themselves as you just did. Good bye, Sorry 4x but it needed saying.
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  • #448
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:57pm Nov 28, 2014 1:57pm
Quoting Unabletrader
{quote} This guy is very crazy. What does matter it's your strategy. I have 2-3 scalping opportunities per day with 5 pips for SL and 5 pips for TP. It's my system then I decide for my money managment. Do I want to have R (Risk) of 0.1%, 0.2%, 0.3%...5%? Anyway, I'm not going to go against my strategy because I'm not making a lot of pips. If I want to make money I risk more : end of the story. What's happening here is crazy. A commercial-member ask a non-commercial member to show TE. This forum is fkin crazy. I mean, even if I were the WORST trader...
You have two live accounts but hide most information.
Why?
When hiding so much information, what is the difference between setting up a demo and a live TE account?
I was not asking you to prove anything. For a "trader" who can make only 2 pips a day, what proof should I be looking for?

Absolutely nothing at all!
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  • #449
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:59pm Nov 28, 2014 1:59pm
"every commercial member has to has a TE"
at least DEMO

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  • #450
  • Nov 28, 2014 1:59pm Nov 28, 2014 1:59pm
Quoting MAM.Trader
you are total lost I have no more words to say. {quote}
Claudia's right yet.

In your opinion, Demo-TE is relevant because you can see the DD and the expectancy but who gives a shit about demo-performance?

You can have a small DD and one day blowing your account because of fear or greed. If you send a Demo-explorer to a prop.shop in order to get a job they'll laught at you.
  • #451
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:02pm Nov 28, 2014 2:02pm
Quoting MAM.Trader
"every commercial member has to has a TE" at least DEMO {image}
You are a fair man with common sense.
Cannot agree more.

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1417204723
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  • #452
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:04pm Nov 28, 2014 2:04pm
big swinging dicks around here, must be the commercial section
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #453
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:05pm Nov 28, 2014 2:05pm
at least one has TE yes its DEMO but tell me another Cmember having TE

its important for the investor to see the trading style.
if Cmember trading freely grid to save the losing ones due its DEMO I can see it. and may be its better to see
if I am not able to see and understand that as an investor then I am not an investor. I am gambler.

I am not supporting DEMO TE but when comparing with other Cmembers one has a TE

Quoting Unabletrader
{quote} Claudia's right yet. In your opinion, Demo-TE is relevant because you can see the DD and the expectancy but who gives a shit about demo-performance? You can have a small DD and one day blowing your account because of fear or greed. If you send a Demo-explorer to a prop.shop in order to get a job they'll laught at you.
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  • #454
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:10pm Nov 28, 2014 2:10pm
Quoting MAM.Trader
at least one has TE yes its DEMO but tell me another Cmember having TE its important for the investor to see the trading style. if Cmember trading freely grid to save the losing ones due its DEMO I can see it. and may be its better to see if I am not able to see and understand that as an investor then I am not an investor. I am gambler. I am not supporting DEMO TE but when comparing with other Cmembers one has a TE {quote}
anyone who is paying a guy from the internet for an ea (without any audited p/l and balance sheet) is a gambler.
fortis fortuna adiuvat
  • #455
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:10pm Nov 28, 2014 2:10pm
Quoting MAM.Trader
"every commercial member has to has a TE" at least DEMO {image}
I suspect English is not your first language. I don't want to fall out there is no need.
We are not discussing people it goes much deeper than that. DB might be a good guy I don't know have nothing against him personally my argument is he is constantly being asked for evidence of live trading and he will not provide. Does that not concern you? Someone challenged me and I traded live on my thread (post still there) made 4k sterling in an hour. (And I am NOT selling I give) Thats all these people want and deserve to see proof the person they follow can do it.
  • #456
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:11pm Nov 28, 2014 2:11pm
Ok, let's play.

DB:

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So we have basically the same average return/loss.

BUT you need to get 14000 pips to make a 9,2% performance? Sad.

I just need 80 pips to get a 2,6% return.
  • #457
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:12pm Nov 28, 2014 2:12pm
Quoting deltaone
{quote} anyone who is paying a guy from the internet for an ea (without any audited p/l and balance sheet) is a gambler.
or a loser
  • #458
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:15pm Nov 28, 2014 2:15pm
Quoting MAM.Trader
at least one has TE yes its DEMO but tell me another Cmember having TE its important for the investor to see the trading style. if Cmember trading freely grid to save the losing ones due its DEMO I can see it. and may be its better to see if I am not able to see and understand that as an investor then I am not an investor. I am gambler. I am not supporting DEMO TE but when comparing with other Cmembers one has a TE {quote}
IMO there is not "demo at least".

Demo or nothing are the same thing.

I think it's time to change this section. Members should apply in order to get a commercial statuts. It's already the case on some others forums.
  • #459
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:18pm Nov 28, 2014 2:18pm
Quoting Unabletrader
{quote} IMO there is not "demo at least". Demo or nothing are the same thing. I think it's time to change this section. Members should apply in order to get a commercial statuts. It's already the case on some others forums.
He's right MAM and vetting commercial members is also a good idea.
  • #460
  • Nov 28, 2014 2:19pm Nov 28, 2014 2:19pm
yes english is not my mother language. this has been discuseed here and English is no the only languaage on world.
more over I was accused for my bad english which I dont give a shit

this is a forum about trading. here money/sucess talks. the rest is BS

I have not even a word with DB before. I dont support him. and well said I dont met him I dont met you or others.
I discuss the idead of TE here.

if there is a commercial member here this member should provide the proof of evidence that he/she is a real trader and not blowing accounts.

I hope I am clear.

GL

Quoting claudia1
{quote} I suspect English is not your first language. I don't want to fall out there is no need. We are not discussing people it goes much deeper than that. DB might be a good guy I don't know have nothing against him personally my argument is he is constantly being asked for evidence of live trading and he will not provide. Does that not concern you? Someone challenged me and I traded live on my thread (post still there) made 4k sterling in an hour. (And I am NOT selling I give) Thats all these people want and deserve to see proof the person they...
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